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AzimuthAcolyte: Tigatron -> Tigatron (BW) update

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Tigatron -> Tigatron (BW) update

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	* Megatron was able to create a sapient clone of [[Dinobot (BW)\|Dinobot]] with simply "a spec of [his] DNA", seemingly indicating that both the organic and robotic "genetics" are present in a DNA sample. However, the clone did not have a robot mode it was capable of transforming into, a fact which has unclear implications. Oh, and the real Dinobot was able to ''eat'' him, for whatever that's worth...		* Megatron was able to create a sapient clone of [[Dinobot (BW)\|Dinobot]] with simply "a spec of [his] DNA", seemingly indicating that both the organic and robotic "genetics" are present in a DNA sample. However, the clone did not have a robot mode it was capable of transforming into, a fact which has unclear implications. Oh, and the real Dinobot was able to ''eat'' him, for whatever that's worth...

	* When forced to spend a prolonged period in their beast modes, the Maximals suffered from persistent dreams of living as "real" animals, which eventually consumed them and, upon awaking, their personalities became entirely bestial. [[Tigatron]] explained the schism between the Cybertronian and animal personalities as a side effect of a "programming block". ("[[Call of the Wild]]")		* When forced to spend a prolonged period in their beast modes, the Maximals suffered from persistent dreams of living as "real" animals, which eventually consumed them and, upon awaking, their personalities became entirely bestial. [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] explained the schism between the Cybertronian and animal personalities as a side effect of a "programming block". ("[[Call of the Wild]]")

	* Looking outside the show, the ''Beast Wars'' writers have stated that, in animal form, the characters are "fully organic"<ref>"When BW's transform into beast mode, they become FULLY organic. This means they are vulnerable to anything the animal they become is. They get hurt worse when hit in beast mode, they have to breathe and eat, they are for all and intents and purposes animals."</ref>, citing both "[[Dark Voyage]]" and "[[Call of the Wild]]" as examples.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/31d437af229a5f5f Larry DiTillio post to ATT, Feb 4 1997]</ref> However, [[Authorial intent\|while this may have been their intention]], it is not entirely consistent with some elements of the completed show nor does it clarify the nature of the technology, and the statement itself is of [[Pseudocanon\|a canonically tenuous nature]].		* Looking outside the show, the ''Beast Wars'' writers have stated that, in animal form, the characters are "fully organic"<ref>"When BW's transform into beast mode, they become FULLY organic. This means they are vulnerable to anything the animal they become is. They get hurt worse when hit in beast mode, they have to breathe and eat, they are for all and intents and purposes animals."</ref>, citing both "[[Dark Voyage]]" and "[[Call of the Wild]]" as examples.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/31d437af229a5f5f Larry DiTillio post to ATT, Feb 4 1997]</ref> However, [[Authorial intent\|while this may have been their intention]], it is not entirely consistent with some elements of the completed show nor does it clarify the nature of the technology, and the statement itself is of [[Pseudocanon\|a canonically tenuous nature]].

BerylRoll at 17:13, 22 January 2026

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	* In ''Beast Machines'', Megatron loathed his ''BW'' Season 3 (thus implicitly non-Technorganic by the ''BM'' definition) dragon form as "disgustingly organic". ("[[Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search]]")		* In ''Beast Machines'', Megatron loathed his ''BW'' Season 3 (thus implicitly non-Technorganic by the ''BM'' definition) dragon form as "disgustingly organic". ("[[Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search]]")

	* [[Megatron (BW)\|Megatron]]'s attempts to purge these "organic" portions ultimately created the purely organic [[Noble\|Savage/Noble]] creature. ("[[Prometheus Unbound]]")		* [[Megatron (BW)\|Megatron]]'s attempts to purge these "organic" portions ultimately created the purely organic [[Noble (BM)\|Savage/Noble]] creature. ("[[Prometheus Unbound]]")
	-- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:35, 25 April 2009 (EDT)		-- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:35, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

NexusShard17 at 18:02, 21 April 2021

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	I really believe these things bear more in-depth treatment in the article, regardless of whether they're my original words or not.		I really believe these things bear more in-depth treatment in the article, regardless of whether they're my original words or not.

	As it stands now, I think the article is worse off, I really do. I think it is worthwhile having some material on the article that discusses the nature of pre-''BM'' beast modes, rather than just a stack of piecemeal examples that don't really lead to anything. (Also, completely removing the reference to the uncertain status of [[~~Animatron~~\|Jungle Planet]] ~~inhabitents~~ seems a questionable deletion.)		As it stands now, I think the article is worse off, I really do. I think it is worthwhile having some material on the article that discusses the nature of pre-''BM'' beast modes, rather than just a stack of piecemeal examples that don't really lead to anything. (Also, completely removing the reference to the uncertain status of [[Jungle Planet (colony)\|Jungle Planet]] inhabitants seems a questionable deletion.)

	Perhaps a compromise would be in order. Might I suggest a negotiated, more concise (if ~~neccessary~~) version of the previous text, enhanced by integrating your excellent examples & story links? Alternatively, what about creating a separate, linked article about "Beast Modes"...?		Perhaps a compromise would be in order. Might I suggest a negotiated, more concise (if necessary) version of the previous text, enhanced by integrating your excellent examples & story links? Alternatively, what about creating a separate, linked article about "Beast Modes"...?

	[[User:PacifistPrime\|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime\|PP]] 04:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)		[[User:PacifistPrime\|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime\|PP]] 04:30, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Abates: /* List of BW physiology traits */

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List of BW physiology traits

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	* The Beast Warriors apparently did need to breathe to sustain themselves. ("[[Dark Voyage]]")		* The Beast Warriors apparently did need to breathe to sustain themselves. ("[[Dark Voyage]]")

	* They often consumed organic food as fuel. ("[[Power Surge]]", "[[The Low Road]]", "[[Code of Hero]]", "[[Victory (episode)\|Victory]]") This eating also apparently translated into some form of digestion or analogous process, as evidenced by [[Rhinox (BW)\|Rhinox]]'s infamous [[The Low Road\|fart attack]].		* They often consumed organic food as fuel. ("[[Power Surge (episode)\|Power Surge]]", "[[The Low Road]]", "[[Code of Hero]]", "[[Victory (episode)\|Victory]]") This eating also apparently translated into some form of digestion or analogous process, as evidenced by [[Rhinox (BW)\|Rhinox]]'s infamous [[The Low Road\|fart attack]].

	* Despite this, in ''Beast Machines'', Cheetor explicitly states that they no longer eat food, instead powering up on [[Energon]] alone. Confusing the matter further, Primal then says in reply that "we ''used'' to" only consume Energon, which clearly is not the case. ("[[Forbidden Fruit]]")		* Despite this, in ''Beast Machines'', Cheetor explicitly states that they no longer eat food, instead powering up on [[Energon]] alone. Confusing the matter further, Primal then says in reply that "we ''used'' to" only consume Energon, which clearly is not the case. ("[[Forbidden Fruit]]")
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	* [[Megatron (BW)\|Megatron]]'s attempts to purge these "organic" portions ultimately created the purely organic [[Noble\|Savage/Noble]] creature. ("[[Prometheus Unbound]]")		* [[Megatron (BW)\|Megatron]]'s attempts to purge these "organic" portions ultimately created the purely organic [[Noble\|Savage/Noble]] creature. ("[[Prometheus Unbound]]")
	-- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:35, 25 April 2009 (EDT)		-- [[User:Repowers\|Repowers]] 22:35, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

	== New article? ==		== New article? ==
	Hey, this is some cool "saved" stuff (immediately above). If it's being saved for a new page, could someone create that new page? Maybe we could call it something like "Beast Warriors", "Beast Warrior technology", or, failing that, make it part of the [[Scanning]] or [[DNA scanner]] articles, maybe? If this content is isn't sufficiently relevant to stay in the Technorganic article, it could serve as a short complementary article discussing the vagaries of the pre-Beast Machine tech. Any takers? {{unsigned\|110.33.205.174}}		Hey, this is some cool "saved" stuff (immediately above). If it's being saved for a new page, could someone create that new page? Maybe we could call it something like "Beast Warriors", "Beast Warrior technology", or, failing that, make it part of the [[Scanning]] or [[DNA scanner]] articles, maybe? If this content is isn't sufficiently relevant to stay in the Technorganic article, it could serve as a short complementary article discussing the vagaries of the pre-Beast Machine tech. Any takers? {{unsigned\|110.33.205.174}}

Chris McFeely: /* Technorganic and Techno-Organic */

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Technorganic and Techno-Organic

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	I think the hyphen makes little to no difference. They seem to be treated as meaning the same thing (at least roughly) so I'd say the change was warranted. --Lord of Torment 01:14, 15 March 2013 (EDT)		I think the hyphen makes little to no difference. They seem to be treated as meaning the same thing (at least roughly) so I'd say the change was warranted. --Lord of Torment 01:14, 15 March 2013 (EDT)
			:Before doing anything, I checked to see if "Techno-Organic" had a separate article that would perhaps explain the basis for the imaginary distinction. You know what it did? It redirected me to "Technorganic." - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 06:04, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Altercron: /* Technorganic and Techno-Organic */

2013-03-15T05:14:09Z

Technorganic and Techno-Organic

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	==Technorganic and Techno-Organic==		==Technorganic and Techno-Organic==
	Ok, i saw the last edit to this page which completely combines these terms and in my opinion i don't think that was warranted. They are two separate words. I think we should hold a discussion to see if they are representing the same idea or not. [[User:Stevo\|Stevo]] 21:23, 14 March 2013 (EDT)		Ok, i saw the last edit to this page which completely combines these terms and in my opinion i don't think that was warranted. They are two separate words. I think we should hold a discussion to see if they are representing the same idea or not. [[User:Stevo\|Stevo]] 21:23, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

			I think the hyphen makes little to no difference. They seem to be treated as meaning the same thing (at least roughly) so I'd say the change was warranted. --Lord of Torment 01:14, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Stevo at 01:23, 15 March 2013

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	Hey, this is some cool "saved" stuff (immediately above). If it's being saved for a new page, could someone create that new page? Maybe we could call it something like "Beast Warriors", "Beast Warrior technology", or, failing that, make it part of the [[Scanning]] or [[DNA scanner]] articles, maybe? If this content is isn't sufficiently relevant to stay in the Technorganic article, it could serve as a short complementary article discussing the vagaries of the pre-Beast Machine tech. Any takers? {{unsigned\|110.33.205.174}}		Hey, this is some cool "saved" stuff (immediately above). If it's being saved for a new page, could someone create that new page? Maybe we could call it something like "Beast Warriors", "Beast Warrior technology", or, failing that, make it part of the [[Scanning]] or [[DNA scanner]] articles, maybe? If this content is isn't sufficiently relevant to stay in the Technorganic article, it could serve as a short complementary article discussing the vagaries of the pre-Beast Machine tech. Any takers? {{unsigned\|110.33.205.174}}
	*** I've made a suggestion/query along similar lines over at [[talk:Beast_mode\|the Beast modes article talk page.]] Please discuss there.[[User:TrapRat\|TrapRat]] 07:26, 26 November 2011 (EST)		*** I've made a suggestion/query along similar lines over at [[talk:Beast_mode\|the Beast modes article talk page.]] Please discuss there.[[User:TrapRat\|TrapRat]] 07:26, 26 November 2011 (EST)

			==Technorganic and Techno-Organic==
			Ok, i saw the last edit to this page which completely combines these terms and in my opinion i don't think that was warranted. They are two separate words. I think we should hold a discussion to see if they are representing the same idea or not. [[User:Stevo\|Stevo]] 21:23, 14 March 2013 (EDT)

Abates: /* Massive purge */

2012-07-16T09:04:13Z

Massive purge

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	I really believe these things bear more in-depth treatment in the article, regardless of whether they're my original words or not.		I really believe these things bear more in-depth treatment in the article, regardless of whether they're my original words or not.

	As it stands now, I think the article is worse off, I really do. I think it is worthwhile having some material on the article that discusses the nature of pre-''BM'' beast modes, rather than just a stack of piecemeal examples that don't really lead to anything. (Also, completely removing the reference to the uncertain status of [[~~Jungle Planet (Cybertron)~~\|Jungle Planet]] inhabitents seems a questionable deletion.)		As it stands now, I think the article is worse off, I really do. I think it is worthwhile having some material on the article that discusses the nature of pre-''BM'' beast modes, rather than just a stack of piecemeal examples that don't really lead to anything. (Also, completely removing the reference to the uncertain status of [[Animatron\|Jungle Planet]] inhabitents seems a questionable deletion.)

	Perhaps a compromise would be in order. Might I suggest a negotiated, more concise (if neccessary) version of the previous text, enhanced by integrating your excellent examples & story links? Alternatively, what about creating a separate, linked article about "Beast Modes"...?		Perhaps a compromise would be in order. Might I suggest a negotiated, more concise (if neccessary) version of the previous text, enhanced by integrating your excellent examples & story links? Alternatively, what about creating a separate, linked article about "Beast Modes"...?

Abates at 00:31, 14 March 2012

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	* They often consumed organic food as fuel. ("[[Power Surge]]", "[[The Low Road]]", "[[Code of Hero]]", "[[Victory (episode)\|Victory]]") This eating also apparently translated into some form of digestion or analogous process, as evidenced by [[Rhinox (BW)\|Rhinox]]'s infamous [[The Low Road\|fart attack]].		* They often consumed organic food as fuel. ("[[Power Surge]]", "[[The Low Road]]", "[[Code of Hero]]", "[[Victory (episode)\|Victory]]") This eating also apparently translated into some form of digestion or analogous process, as evidenced by [[Rhinox (BW)\|Rhinox]]'s infamous [[The Low Road\|fart attack]].

	* Despite this, in ''Beast Machines'', Cheetor explicitly states that they no longer eat food, instead powering up on [[~~Energon (fuel)\|~~Energon]] alone. Confusing the matter further, Primal then says in reply that "we ''used'' to" only consume ~~[[Energon (fuel)\|~~Energon]], which clearly is not the case. ("[[Forbidden Fruit]]")		* Despite this, in ''Beast Machines'', Cheetor explicitly states that they no longer eat food, instead powering up on [[Energon]] alone. Confusing the matter further, Primal then says in reply that "we ''used'' to" only consume Energon, which clearly is not the case. ("[[Forbidden Fruit]]")

	[[Image:Noble.jpg\|right\|250px\|thumb\|Cybertronian, but not mechanical.]]		[[Image:Noble.jpg\|right\|250px\|thumb\|Cybertronian, but not mechanical.]]

TrapRat: /* New article? */

2011-11-26T12:26:09Z

New article?

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	== New article? ==		== New article? ==
	Hey, this is some cool "saved" stuff (immediately above). If it's being saved for a new page, could someone create that new page? Maybe we could call it something like "Beast Warriors", "Beast Warrior technology", or, failing that, make it part of the [[Scanning]] or [[DNA scanner]] articles, maybe? If this content is isn't sufficiently relevant to stay in the Technorganic article, it could serve as a short complementary article discussing the vagaries of the pre-Beast Machine tech. Any takers? {{unsigned\|110.33.205.174}}		Hey, this is some cool "saved" stuff (immediately above). If it's being saved for a new page, could someone create that new page? Maybe we could call it something like "Beast Warriors", "Beast Warrior technology", or, failing that, make it part of the [[Scanning]] or [[DNA scanner]] articles, maybe? If this content is isn't sufficiently relevant to stay in the Technorganic article, it could serve as a short complementary article discussing the vagaries of the pre-Beast Machine tech. Any takers? {{unsigned\|110.33.205.174}}
			*** I've made a suggestion/query along similar lines over at [[talk:Beast_mode\|the Beast modes article talk page.]] Please discuss there.[[User:TrapRat\|TrapRat]] 07:26, 26 November 2011 (EST)