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AzimuthAcolyte: /* Train Wars */

2026-02-19T05:41:16Z

Train Wars

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	:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)		:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)
	::Had not yet actually read the translation of the new manga yet, though its release is what got me on the rabbit hole to begin with. Thanks! [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 00:34, 19 February 2026 (EST)		::Had not yet actually read the translation of the new manga yet, though its release is what got me on the rabbit hole to begin with. Thanks! [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 00:34, 19 February 2026 (EST)
			:::I actually only finished making that source page just now lmao. Happy to help! --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 00:41, 19 February 2026 (EST)

Cylasbreakdown: /* Train Wars */

2026-02-19T05:34:27Z

Train Wars

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	It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)		It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)
	:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)		:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)
			::Had not yet actually read the translation of the new manga yet, though its release is what got me on the rabbit hole to begin with. Thanks! [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 00:34, 19 February 2026 (EST)

AzimuthAcolyte: /* Train Wars */

2026-02-19T04:29:24Z

Train Wars

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	It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)		It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)
			:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)

Cylasbreakdown: /* Train Wars */ new section

2026-02-18T21:42:20Z

Train Wars: new section

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	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

			== Train Wars ==

			It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)

TheLastGherkin: Used image

2025-08-03T11:22:01Z

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	That bit about how the Fallen was created by Pat Lee? In the latest edition of Wayward's [http://www.insecticons.com/insecticomics.html Insecticomics] it is said that it was actually Furman who created the character, that Lee just did the design. When I asked her about it, she posted this [http://p206.ezboard.com/fthepaddedcell71381frm19.showMessage?topicID=2995.topic&index=107 transcript] which backs that up. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)		That bit about how the Fallen was created by Pat Lee? In the latest edition of Wayward's [http://www.insecticons.com/insecticomics.html Insecticomics] it is said that it was actually Furman who created the character, that Lee just did the design. When I asked her about it, she posted this [http://p206.ezboard.com/fthepaddedcell71381frm19.showMessage?topicID=2995.topic&index=107 transcript] which backs that up. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

AzimuthAcolyte: /* Move to Megatronus? */ WHUP quibbles sorted

2025-02-10T22:13:32Z

Move to Megatronus?: WHUP quibbles sorted

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	:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)		::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)
	:::::I'm in favor of everything being added here ~~and any quibbles I have with this prototype are minor enough to futz with after it goes live~~, so I say sure. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2025 (EST)		:::::I'm in favor of everything being added here, so I say sure. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

AzimuthAcolyte: /* Move to Megatronus? */

2025-02-10T22:00:45Z

Move to Megatronus?

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	:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)		::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)
			:::::I'm in favor of everything being added here and any quibbles I have with this prototype are minor enough to futz with after it goes live, so I say sure. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

Broadside: /* Move to Megatronus? */

2025-02-10T21:41:36Z

Move to Megatronus?

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	:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)
			::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

IGEBM13: /* Move to Megatronus? */

2025-01-26T18:30:02Z

Move to Megatronus?

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	::Feel Free to leave suggestions / thoughts! [[User:Daytonjhammon\|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon\|talk]]) 01:19, 26 January 2025 (EST)		::Feel Free to leave suggestions / thoughts! [[User:Daytonjhammon\|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon\|talk]]) 01:19, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)
			:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

Cydra: /* Move to Megatronus? */

2025-01-26T06:40:38Z

Move to Megatronus?

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	::::*'''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/The Fallen\|Click Here!]]'''		::::*'''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/The Fallen\|Click Here!]]'''
	::Feel Free to leave suggestions / thoughts! [[User:Daytonjhammon\|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon\|talk]]) 01:19, 26 January 2025 (EST)		::Feel Free to leave suggestions / thoughts! [[User:Daytonjhammon\|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon\|talk]]) 01:19, 26 January 2025 (EST)
			:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

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	:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)		:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)
	::Had not yet actually read the translation of the new manga yet, though its release is what got me on the rabbit hole to begin with. Thanks! [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 00:34, 19 February 2026 (EST)		::Had not yet actually read the translation of the new manga yet, though its release is what got me on the rabbit hole to begin with. Thanks! [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 00:34, 19 February 2026 (EST)
			:::I actually only finished making that source page just now lmao. Happy to help! --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 00:41, 19 February 2026 (EST)

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	It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)		It says in the article that the Fallen came from another world into the JG1 continuity, but I just looked over the actual Train Wars manga (English translations linked at the bottom of their respective articles) and didn’t see any reference to that. Is it a translation thing? Did I just miss it? Or is this an error on our part that needs to be corrected? [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 16:42, 18 February 2026 (EST)
	:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)		:It is indeed quite vague in the original Train Wars (I think there's like a circle that might be a portal on page 2 panel 1) but as of this very week it can be seen laid out explicitly [[Source:Chapter Two: Age of Primes#Page 6\|here]] in the script of the [[Age of Primes (End of G1 Universe)\|second chapter]] of the ''[[The Transformers: End of G1 Universe\|End of G1 Universe]]'' manga. Ymmv if that's a retcon but it's certainly canon now. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 23:29, 18 February 2026 (EST)
			::Had not yet actually read the translation of the new manga yet, though its release is what got me on the rabbit hole to begin with. Thanks! [[User:Cylasbreakdown\|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown\|talk]]) 00:34, 19 February 2026 (EST)

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	:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)		::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)
	:::::I'm in favor of everything being added here ~~and any quibbles I have with this prototype are minor enough to futz with after it goes live~~, so I say sure. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2025 (EST)		:::::I'm in favor of everything being added here, so I say sure. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

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	:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)		::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)
			:::::I'm in favor of everything being added here and any quibbles I have with this prototype are minor enough to futz with after it goes live, so I say sure. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte\|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte\|talk]]) 17:00, 10 February 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)

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	:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::It works good for me. The one thing I might add to the conceptual history (and I'm not even sure if it's significant to warrant that) is The Fallen's appearance in the Shattered Glass universe when he was still a multiversal singularity.[[User:Cydra\|Cydra]] ([[User talk:Cydra\|talk]]) 01:40, 26 January 2025 (EST)
	:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)		:::Looks good! Caption-wise, I like Tindalos’ the most. - [[User:IGEBM13\|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13\|talk]]) 13:30, 26 January 2025 (EST)
			::::Bumping this — I'm good to take it live in a couple of days if there's no objections? --[[User:Broadside\|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside\|talk]]) 16:41, 10 February 2025 (EST)

	==Split Pages==		==Split Pages==
	Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)		Now I'm new to this wiki so excuse me if I'm talking out of turn here but didn't the Shroud remove Multiversal singularities which in that case, shouldn't Megatronus be split into duplicate pages from the year the Shroud happened onward? Just asking -- [[User:Jasenomous_TF\|Jasenomous_TF]] ([[User talk:Jasenomous_TF\|talk]]) 13:34, 4 November 2024 (MDT)
	:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)		:We don't split out singularities affected by the Shroud because all of their pre-Shroud appearances as singularities still exist as fiction. The Shroud didn't automatically invalidate those appearances because those pre-Shroud appearances are still canon. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade\|talk]]) 17:20, 4 November 2024 (EST)