Talk:The Transformers (toyline) - Revision history

Hooper X at 03:11, 28 November 2016

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	Similarly, the claim that Goldbug was followed by Power Master Optimus as the next reused character might also be challenged. Hot Rod, Kupp, Blurr, Scourge and Cyclonus all gained second retooled versions as Target Masters (though technically these were the same basic toy). --[[User:Pittstop\|Pittstop]] 09:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)		Similarly, the claim that Goldbug was followed by Power Master Optimus as the next reused character might also be challenged. Hot Rod, Kupp, Blurr, Scourge and Cyclonus all gained second retooled versions as Target Masters (though technically these were the same basic toy). --[[User:Pittstop\|Pittstop]] 09:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
	:The important word in all that you said is "clearly". Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge were not marketed as previously existing characters. Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime were released at the same time, so Rodimus isn't a "new figure for an existing character". Finally, the Targetmasters are so slightly changed that it is hard to see them as separate toys. Perhaps the wording could be made somewhat clearer, but the basic statement is true. Goldbug was the first time that Hasbro "went back to the well", so to speak. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:14, 28 May 2013 (EDT)		:The important word in all that you said is "clearly". Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge were not marketed as previously existing characters. Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime were released at the same time, so Rodimus isn't a "new figure for an existing character". Finally, the Targetmasters are so slightly changed that it is hard to see them as separate toys. Perhaps the wording could be made somewhat clearer, but the basic statement is true. Goldbug was the first time that Hasbro "went back to the well", so to speak. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:14, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

			== The Name Game ==
			I'm not sure how to discuss it, but it seems relevant that Transformers had better names than competing toylines - GoBots at least usually had a lame pun like "Hans Cuff" or such, while the also-rans were a mix of lazy shit like calling the Corvette "Vette", hokey sci-fi cheese like "Robo-Tron" or bad Scrabble hands ("Meeshak" and "Nofka" from Con-Ver-Tors come to mind...). By comparison, something like "Sunstreaker" or "Thundercracker" is fucking ''elegant''. [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X\|talk]]) 22:11, 27 November 2016 (EST)

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	Should there be central hub page for the Japanese G1 lines or are the individual pages enough? I ask because a central page could be added to the navigation box more easily than the multiple pages. I have also proposed adding [[Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)]] to the nav box over on its [[Talk: Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)\|talk page]]. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 08:43, 26 March 2010 (EDT)		Should there be central hub page for the Japanese G1 lines or are the individual pages enough? I ask because a central page could be added to the navigation box more easily than the multiple pages. I have also proposed adding [[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)\|Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)]] to the nav box over on its [[Talk:The Transformers (Chinese toyline)\|Talk: Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)\|talk page]]. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 08:43, 26 March 2010 (EDT)
	:I've added China to the nav-box and I've mocked up a central page for the Japanese mini-franchises at [[User: Khajidha/sandbox]]. I'd like to hear any input. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:18, 4 April 2010 (EDT)		:I've added China to the nav-box and I've mocked up a central page for the Japanese mini-franchises at [[User: Khajidha/sandbox]]. I'd like to hear any input. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 21:18, 4 April 2010 (EDT)

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	'''[[Insecticon (G1)\|Deluxe Insecticons]]'''		'''[[Insecticon (G1)\|Deluxe Insecticons]]'''
	* [[Barrage (Insecticon)\|Barrage]]		* [[Barrage (Insecticon)\|Barrage]]
	* [[Chop Shop]]		* [[Chop Shop (G1)\|Chop Shop]]
	* [[Ransack (G1)\|Ransack]]		* [[Ransack (G1)\|Ransack]]
	* [[Venom (G1)\|Venom]]		* [[Venom (G1)\|Venom]]

Khajidha: /* Same Characters. */

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Same Characters.

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	Similarly, the claim that Goldbug was followed by Power Master Optimus as the next reused character might also be challenged. Hot Rod, Kupp, Blurr, Scourge and Cyclonus all gained second retooled versions as Target Masters (though technically these were the same basic toy). --[[User:Pittstop\|Pittstop]] 09:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)		Similarly, the claim that Goldbug was followed by Power Master Optimus as the next reused character might also be challenged. Hot Rod, Kupp, Blurr, Scourge and Cyclonus all gained second retooled versions as Target Masters (though technically these were the same basic toy). --[[User:Pittstop\|Pittstop]] 09:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
			:The important word in all that you said is "clearly". Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge were not marketed as previously existing characters. Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime were released at the same time, so Rodimus isn't a "new figure for an existing character". Finally, the Targetmasters are so slightly changed that it is hard to see them as separate toys. Perhaps the wording could be made somewhat clearer, but the basic statement is true. Goldbug was the first time that Hasbro "went back to the well", so to speak. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 10:14, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

Pittstop: /* Same Characters. */ new section

2013-05-28T13:54:01Z

Same Characters.: new section

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	Should [[Time Warrior]] be listed on this page? [[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 08:14, 10 August 2012 (EDT)		Should [[Time Warrior]] be listed on this page? [[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 08:14, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
	:I'd say no. Time Warrior strikes me more as merchandising than as a true part of the toyline. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:02, 10 August 2012 (EDT)		:I'd say no. Time Warrior strikes me more as merchandising than as a true part of the toyline. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:02, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

			== Same Characters. ==

			The main article claims Goldbug was the first character to clearly be a new figure for an existing character, however Goldbug was released in 1987, a whole year after figures such as Rodimus Prime (same character as Hot Rod), Galvatron (same character as Megatron), Cyclonus and Scourge (both reformatted characters). While it can be argued the Tech Spec and advertising for Galvatron, Cyclonus and Scourge makes no mention of their previous incarnations, Rodimus' did.

			Similarly, the claim that Goldbug was followed by Power Master Optimus as the next reused character might also be challenged. Hot Rod, Kupp, Blurr, Scourge and Cyclonus all gained second retooled versions as Target Masters (though technically these were the same basic toy). --[[User:Pittstop\|Pittstop]] 09:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

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	:::I like this layout. Can I run with it? Please? --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 21:43, 12 August 2012 (EDT)		:::I like this layout. Can I run with it? Please? --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 21:43, 12 August 2012 (EDT)
			::::Sure! --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 03:59, 13 August 2012 (EDT)

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	--[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 11:55, 10 August 2012 (EDT)		--[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 11:55, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

			:::I like this layout. Can I run with it? Please? --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 21:43, 12 August 2012 (EDT)

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Flicky1991: sorry it's a little late

2012-08-10T15:55:04Z

sorry it's a little late

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	*[[Shockwave (G1)/toys\|Shockwave]]		*[[Shockwave (G1)/toys\|Shockwave]]
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			--[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 11:55, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

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Khajidha: /* Time Warrior */

2012-08-10T15:02:10Z

Time Warrior

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	Should [[Time Warrior]] be listed on this page? [[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 08:14, 10 August 2012 (EDT)		Should [[Time Warrior]] be listed on this page? [[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 08:14, 10 August 2012 (EDT)
			:I'd say no. Time Warrior strikes me more as merchandising than as a true part of the toyline. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:02, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

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 This whole thing with the columnated lists looks ''terrible''.  A bulleted list needs to be longer than its width to read easily.  Having three bulleted names sit side-by-side looks ridiculous (see the Insecticons listing, for example) and is harder to read.  It ''breaks'' the association and continuity between the names, rather than enhancing it, and for what?  In the name of "getting rid of white space"?  Uh... white space is free!  Unlimited!  It costs us nothing! Extra vertical scrolling?  Please.  The page is going to be huge no matter what.  Having to hit the space bar 22 times instead of 20 times is a small price to pay for ''legibility''.  -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 09:43, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
 :Yeah, looking at it in IE (which doesn't support multiple-column lists) it looks fine and the lists are much more readable to me. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:20, 8 May 2009 (EDT)
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	'''[[Insecticon (G1)\|Deluxe Insecticons]]'''		'''[[Insecticon (G1)\|Deluxe Insecticons]]'''
	* [[Barrage (Insecticon)\|Barrage]]		* [[Barrage (Insecticon)\|Barrage]]
	* [[Chop Shop]]		* [[Chop Shop (G1)\|Chop Shop]]
	* [[Ransack (G1)\|Ransack]]		* [[Ransack (G1)\|Ransack]]
	* [[Venom (G1)\|Venom]]		* [[Venom (G1)\|Venom]]