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	Should it be a considered a continuity error that the police drones are attacking the police chief, for no apparent reason? Or was there a reason given that I missed? -- [[User:White Cat\|White Cat]] ([[User talk:White Cat\|talk]]) 05:18, 14 March 2024 (EDT)		Should it be a considered a continuity error that the police drones are attacking the police chief, for no apparent reason? Or was there a reason given that I missed? -- [[User:White Cat\|White Cat]] ([[User talk:White Cat\|talk]]) 05:18, 14 March 2024 (EDT)
			:As Fanzone is on the phone to tech support, we can reasonably infer it's because the drones are malfunctioning. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 05:27, 14 March 2024 (EDT)

	== Fortress Maximus ==		== Fortress Maximus ==
	Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}		Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}
	:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)		:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)

White Cat: /* Continuity error */ Police drones

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	::No - at the end of [[TransWarped]] Omega Starscream makes it in a single jump. In the first instance (which you're thinking of), Omega conked out halfway through the jump, which is why they "land" in the middle of nowhere. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 20:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::No - at the end of [[TransWarped]] Omega Starscream makes it in a single jump. In the first instance (which you're thinking of), Omega conked out halfway through the jump, which is why they "land" in the middle of nowhere. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 20:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

			Should it be a considered a continuity error that the police drones are attacking the police chief, for no apparent reason? Or was there a reason given that I missed? -- [[User:White Cat\|White Cat]] ([[User talk:White Cat\|talk]]) 05:18, 14 March 2024 (EDT)

	== Fortress Maximus ==		== Fortress Maximus ==
	Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}		Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}
	:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)		:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)

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	== Fortress Maximus ==		== Fortress Maximus ==
	Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters?		Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}
			:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)

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	::No - at the end of [[TransWarped]] Omega Starscream makes it in a single jump. In the first instance (which you're thinking of), Omega conked out halfway through the jump, which is why they "land" in the middle of nowhere. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 20:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::No - at the end of [[TransWarped]] Omega Starscream makes it in a single jump. In the first instance (which you're thinking of), Omega conked out halfway through the jump, which is why they "land" in the middle of nowhere. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 20:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

			== Fortress Maximus ==
			Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters?

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	== Capitalization ==		== Capitalization ==

	Shouldn't this page be at [[This is Why I Hate Machines]], not [[This Is Why I Hate Machines]]?--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191\|86.87.28.191]] 14:03, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		Shouldn't this page be at "This is Why I Hate Machines", not [[This Is Why I Hate Machines]]?--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191\|86.87.28.191]] 14:03, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	:I had the same thought, but I'm not sure. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 14:06, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:I had the same thought, but I'm not sure. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 14:06, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	: "Is" is a verb. Verbs are capitalized in titles. It is only short prepositions which are uncapitalized. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:11, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		: "Is" is a verb. Verbs are capitalized in titles. It is only short prepositions which are uncapitalized. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 14:11, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
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	:::Fuckity. It's not like me to forget that "is" is a verb.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191\|86.87.28.191]] 16:13, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::Fuckity. It's not like me to forget that "is" is a verb.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191\|86.87.28.191]] 16:13, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Short prepositions (the general limit seems to be four letters) and conjunctions. (Hence, title capitalization that seem weird to some, like "[[The House that Wheeljack Built!]]" The "that" in that phrase is actually a conjunction.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 16:33, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Short prepositions (the general limit seems to be four letters) and conjunctions. (Hence, title capitalization that seem weird to some, like "[[The House that Wheeljack Built!]]" The "that" in that phrase is actually a conjunction.) [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 16:33, 9 May 2009 (EDT)


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KrytenKoro: edited

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	::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).		::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
	:::...."[[wikipedia:I approve this message\|I approve of this message]]" was not a "trend started by Bush", it was a law started in North Carolina and brought to the federal level in 2002, and spearheaded by Senators unrelated to Bush.		:::...."[[wikipedia:I approve this message\|I approve of this message]]" was not a "trend started by Bush", it was a law started in North Carolina and brought to the federal level in 2002, and spearheaded by Senators unrelated to Bush.
	:::"Wrongful imprisonment" is hardly, in any way, something new to Bush, and hardly his "thing". And the analogy wouldn't even work, as Wasp was imprisoned under Magnus' reign - you're basically comparing Sentinel to ''Obama'' with that analogy, unless you mean Sentinel as the actual one who turned him in - in which case you're comparing him to generals on the ground, in just an awfully twisted analogy. Finally, just on a personal note, I'd like you to check up ~~your~~ "suspicions" by looking at the recidivism rate for released detainees, which rivals that of actual convicted criminals.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 08:58, 23 May 2009 (EDT)		:::"Wrongful imprisonment" is hardly, in any way, something new to Bush, and hardly his "thing". And the analogy wouldn't even work, as Wasp was imprisoned under Magnus' reign - you're basically comparing Sentinel to ''Obama'' with that analogy, unless you mean Sentinel as the actual one who turned him in - in which case you're comparing him to generals on the ground, in just an awfully twisted analogy. Finally, just on a personal note, I'd like you to check up these "suspicions" by looking at the recidivism rate for released detainees, which rivals that of actual convicted criminals, and I'd think that in eight years we should have some examples of wrongful detainment if it's such a problem.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 08:58, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

	== Saur/Zaur ==		== Saur/Zaur ==

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	:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
	:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=XlN&q=I+make+the+tough+decisions+that+nobody+else+can&btnG=Search rough search] indicates that google doesn't think that line is unique to Bush - in fact, I didn't see any mention of Bush in connection to that line until many pages in. Really, it's a pretty common line for people in charge being criticized - I remember a line very close to it being used in that Bionicle movie that aired quite a few years back. Hell, Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill went through all this behavior when he became the leader of the flood shelter in that one episode. This is just generic "Paranoid, incompetent leader" stuff.		::::A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=XlN&q=I+make+the+tough+decisions+that+nobody+else+can&btnG=Search rough search] indicates that google doesn't think that line is unique to Bush - in fact, I didn't see any mention of Bush in connection to that line until many pages in. Really, it's a pretty common line for people in charge being criticized - I remember a line very close to it being used in that Bionicle movie that aired quite a few years back. Hell, Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill went through all this behavior when he became the leader of the flood shelter in that one episode. This is just generic "Paranoid, incompetent leader" stuff.
	::::I get that "the funny stays", and this may seem unimportant, but honestly, the bit in the article just reads as desperate and pulling at straws politically, and just not at all humorous. I mean, at the very least, please take out the bit implying that Bush tried to accuse or prosecute people for treason for disagreeing with him, 'cause that's just complete and total bullshit. He wasn't one of our most or possibly even average competent presidents, but he wasn't freaking Stalin.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 10 May 2009 (EDT)		::::I get that "the funny stays", and this may seem unimportant, but honestly, the bit in the article just reads as desperate and pulling at straws politically, and just not at all humorous. I mean, at the very least, please take out the bit implying that Bush tried to accuse or prosecute people for treason for disagreeing with him, 'cause that's just complete and total bullshit. He wasn't one of our most or possibly even average competent presidents, but he wasn't freaking Stalin.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
			::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
			:::...."[[wikipedia:I approve this message\|I approve of this message]]" was not a "trend started by Bush", it was a law started in North Carolina and brought to the federal level in 2002, and spearheaded by Senators unrelated to Bush.
			:::"Wrongful imprisonment" is hardly, in any way, something new to Bush, and hardly his "thing". And the analogy wouldn't even work, as Wasp was imprisoned under Magnus' reign - you're basically comparing Sentinel to ''Obama'' with that analogy, unless you mean Sentinel as the actual one who turned him in - in which case you're comparing him to generals on the ground, in just an awfully twisted analogy. Finally, just on a personal note, I'd like you to check up your "suspicions" by looking at the recidivism rate for released detainees, which rivals that of actual convicted criminals.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 08:58, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

	== Saur/Zaur ==		== Saur/Zaur ==

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	:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since.		::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
	:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

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	:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
			::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since.
	:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

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	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=XlN&q=I+make+the+tough+decisions+that+nobody+else+can&btnG=Search rough search] indicates that google doesn't think that line is unique to Bush - in fact, I didn't see any mention of Bush in connection to that line until many pages in. Really, it's a pretty common line for people in charge being criticized - I remember a line very close to it being used in that Bionicle movie that aired quite a few years back. Hell, Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill went through all this behavior when he became the leader of the flood shelter in that one episode. This is just generic "Paranoid, incompetent leader" stuff.		::::A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=XlN&q=I+make+the+tough+decisions+that+nobody+else+can&btnG=Search rough search] indicates that google doesn't think that line is unique to Bush - in fact, I didn't see any mention of Bush in connection to that line until many pages in. Really, it's a pretty common line for people in charge being criticized - I remember a line very close to it being used in that Bionicle movie that aired quite a few years back. Hell, Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill went through all this behavior when he became the leader of the flood shelter in that one episode. This is just generic "Paranoid, incompetent leader" stuff.
	::::I get that "the funny stays", and this may seem unimportant, but honestly, the bit in the article just reads as desperate and pulling at straws politically, and just not at all humorous.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 10 May 2009 (EDT)		::::I get that "the funny stays", and this may seem unimportant, but honestly, the bit in the article just reads as desperate and pulling at straws politically, and just not at all humorous. I mean, at the very least, please take out the bit implying that Bush tried to accuse or prosecute people for treason for disagreeing with him, 'cause that's just complete and total bullshit. He wasn't one of our most or possibly even average competent presidents, but he wasn't freaking Stalin.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 10 May 2009 (EDT)

	== Saur/Zaur ==		== Saur/Zaur ==

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	Should it be a considered a continuity error that the police drones are attacking the police chief, for no apparent reason? Or was there a reason given that I missed? -- [[User:White Cat\|White Cat]] ([[User talk:White Cat\|talk]]) 05:18, 14 March 2024 (EDT)		Should it be a considered a continuity error that the police drones are attacking the police chief, for no apparent reason? Or was there a reason given that I missed? -- [[User:White Cat\|White Cat]] ([[User talk:White Cat\|talk]]) 05:18, 14 March 2024 (EDT)
			:As Fanzone is on the phone to tech support, we can reasonably infer it's because the drones are malfunctioning. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 05:27, 14 March 2024 (EDT)

	== Fortress Maximus ==		== Fortress Maximus ==
	Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}		Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}
	:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)		:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)

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	::No - at the end of [[TransWarped]] Omega Starscream makes it in a single jump. In the first instance (which you're thinking of), Omega conked out halfway through the jump, which is why they "land" in the middle of nowhere. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 20:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::No - at the end of [[TransWarped]] Omega Starscream makes it in a single jump. In the first instance (which you're thinking of), Omega conked out halfway through the jump, which is why they "land" in the middle of nowhere. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 20:37, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

			Should it be a considered a continuity error that the police drones are attacking the police chief, for no apparent reason? Or was there a reason given that I missed? -- [[User:White Cat\|White Cat]] ([[User talk:White Cat\|talk]]) 05:18, 14 March 2024 (EDT)

	== Fortress Maximus ==		== Fortress Maximus ==
	Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}		Shouldn't Fortress Maximus appear on the "Autobots" or the "Others" section of characters? {{unsigned\|190.206.240.231}}
	:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)		:No, because it's a building. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 21:17, 14 January 2011 (EST)

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	:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
	:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=XlN&q=I+make+the+tough+decisions+that+nobody+else+can&btnG=Search rough search] indicates that google doesn't think that line is unique to Bush - in fact, I didn't see any mention of Bush in connection to that line until many pages in. Really, it's a pretty common line for people in charge being criticized - I remember a line very close to it being used in that Bionicle movie that aired quite a few years back. Hell, Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill went through all this behavior when he became the leader of the flood shelter in that one episode. This is just generic "Paranoid, incompetent leader" stuff.		::::A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=XlN&q=I+make+the+tough+decisions+that+nobody+else+can&btnG=Search rough search] indicates that google doesn't think that line is unique to Bush - in fact, I didn't see any mention of Bush in connection to that line until many pages in. Really, it's a pretty common line for people in charge being criticized - I remember a line very close to it being used in that Bionicle movie that aired quite a few years back. Hell, Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill went through all this behavior when he became the leader of the flood shelter in that one episode. This is just generic "Paranoid, incompetent leader" stuff.
	::::I get that "the funny stays", and this may seem unimportant, but honestly, the bit in the article just reads as desperate and pulling at straws politically, and just not at all humorous. I mean, at the very least, please take out the bit implying that Bush tried to accuse or prosecute people for treason for disagreeing with him, 'cause that's just complete and total bullshit. He wasn't one of our most or possibly even average competent presidents, but he wasn't freaking Stalin.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 10 May 2009 (EDT)		::::I get that "the funny stays", and this may seem unimportant, but honestly, the bit in the article just reads as desperate and pulling at straws politically, and just not at all humorous. I mean, at the very least, please take out the bit implying that Bush tried to accuse or prosecute people for treason for disagreeing with him, 'cause that's just complete and total bullshit. He wasn't one of our most or possibly even average competent presidents, but he wasn't freaking Stalin.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 10 May 2009 (EDT)
			::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
			:::...."[[wikipedia:I approve this message\|I approve of this message]]" was not a "trend started by Bush", it was a law started in North Carolina and brought to the federal level in 2002, and spearheaded by Senators unrelated to Bush.
			:::"Wrongful imprisonment" is hardly, in any way, something new to Bush, and hardly his "thing". And the analogy wouldn't even work, as Wasp was imprisoned under Magnus' reign - you're basically comparing Sentinel to ''Obama'' with that analogy, unless you mean Sentinel as the actual one who turned him in - in which case you're comparing him to generals on the ground, in just an awfully twisted analogy. Finally, just on a personal note, I'd like you to check up your "suspicions" by looking at the recidivism rate for released detainees, which rivals that of actual convicted criminals.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 08:58, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

	== Saur/Zaur ==		== Saur/Zaur ==

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	:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since.		::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since. -- Cybertronian [[Special:Contributions/141.225.195.120\|141.225.195.120]] 06:23, 23 May 2009 (EDT).
	:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

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	:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:He's imitating both, but the note at the end of the episode about making tough choices to protect, would do it again etc... was Bush. Neither Nixon nor McCarthy ever ''made'' those kinds of decisions-- even Nixon just inherited Vietnam, he never ran a fist strike. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 13:43, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::Granted, I missed the first five minutes of the episode, so I only saw the stuff after Sentinel first saw Omega (so if he led some kind of preemptive strike on the Decepticon colonies, I missed it). But honestly, if his behavior in this episode is even meant to ''be'' a parallel, one to Bush is...rather flimsy. I mean, I dislike Bush and all, but I still don't remember him ever even trying to imprison political dissidents, no matter how much some said he would - even after they started outright vandalism and destruction of property. Plus, he didn't launch any "first strike" without congressional approval - and a big bit of this episode was Sentinel deciding to mobilize everything on his own. Hell, [[wikipedia:John Tyler#Presidency 1841–1845\|John Tyler]] looks like it would fit better, such as how he achieved the presidency and Congress' response to it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] 18:31, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
			::: Actually, while Bush didn't imprison political dissidents, there are suspicions that some of the Guantanamo inmates may have been innocent Afghans -- and Iraqis? -- pinched during America's efforts to detain al-Qaida agents, Taliban, and Afghanistan/Iraq insurgents. That being said, there is a great fear that the innocent, once free, will be (understandibly) mad with America. Not unlike Sentinel's wrongful detention of Wasp. I know for a fact that he's imitating Bush when he uses the line "...and I approve of this message." W. First used this line at the end of his 2000 Presidential commercials, and continued to do so in 2004 against Kerry. Other politicos -- Democrat, Republicon, and fictional -- have borrowed this line ever since.
	:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		:::If you ask me Sentinel is channeling the worst aspects of every generic, well meaning, incompetent and near-tyrannical leader of a free-nation. He doesn't seem like he's imitating anyone specific, his actions read more like a generic list of "what not to do" than a deliberate parody. [[User:(Undecided)\|(Undecided)]] 19:25, 9 May 2009 (EDT)
	::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)		::::The entire "I make the tough decisions that nobody else can and if I had to do it all again I totally would" bit was in places word-for-word taken from statements made by GWB. The whole "shutting down public spaces because terrorists" is an exaggeration, but the connection is there. [[User:Hooper X\|Hooper_X]] 22:19, 9 May 2009 (EDT)