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	I've listened to all three versions, but I have no idea what Stan's singing in that middle 8 section. Google brings up a load of user-submitted lyric sites that all claim it says "Galaxy's worried they'll retreat", but I don't buy that. Thoughts? Ideas? Can someone maybe try to corner Stan at BotCon this year and ask him? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:29, 22 June 2010 (EDT)		I've listened to all three versions, but I have no idea what Stan's singing in that middle 8 section. Google brings up a load of user-submitted lyric sites that all claim it says "Galaxy's worried they'll retreat", but I don't buy that. Thoughts? Ideas? Can someone maybe try to corner Stan at BotCon this year and ask him? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:29, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

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	I've listened to all three versions, but I have no idea what Stan's singing in that middle 8 section. Google brings up a load of user-submitted lyric sites that all claim it says "Galaxy's worried they'll retreat", but I don't buy that. Thoughts? Ideas? Can someone maybe try to corner Stan at BotCon this year and ask him? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:29, 22 June 2010 (EDT)		I've listened to all three versions, but I have no idea what Stan's singing in that middle 8 section. Google brings up a load of user-submitted lyric sites that all claim it says "Galaxy's worried they'll retreat", but I don't buy that. Thoughts? Ideas? Can someone maybe try to corner Stan at BotCon this year and ask him? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:29, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

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	Didn't this sort already have approval in 2007 when Hasbro showcased it on their Transformers website and it was the BotCon 2007 song? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 07:17, 22 June 2010 (EDT)		Didn't this sort already have approval in 2007 when Hasbro showcased it on their Transformers website and it was the BotCon 2007 song? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 07:17, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

	:At Botcon 2011, I appraoched Stan Bush and asked him about the lyric in question. He said the line is "Galaxies roar! Evil retreats," and he thinks but is pretty sure that the rest of the line is "to its darkest corner". So, a good majority of the Internet is way off on that lyric.		:At Botcon 2011, I appraoched Stan Bush and asked him about the lyric in question. He said the line is "Galaxies roar! Evil retreats," and he thinks but is pretty sure that the rest of the line is "to its darkest corner". So, a good majority of the Internet is way off on that lyric. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:03, 30 July 2011 (EDT)

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	Didn't this sort already have approval in 2007 when Hasbro showcased it on their Transformers website and it was the BotCon 2007 song? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 07:17, 22 June 2010 (EDT)		Didn't this sort already have approval in 2007 when Hasbro showcased it on their Transformers website and it was the BotCon 2007 song? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 07:17, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

			:At Botcon 2011, I appraoched Stan Bush and asked him about the lyric in question. He said the line is "Galaxies roar! Evil retreats," and he thinks but is pretty sure that the rest of the line is "to its darkest corner". So, a good majority of the Internet is way off on that lyric.

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	:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
	::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
			::::That's fair enough, but it still only answers part of the question. But whatever, I really don't care that much. If you guys are saying that there's no discernible difference in the Hasbro/BotCon relationship before and after 2002, and that the decision to not use the word "Transformers" here or anywhere on any of the 3H music albums was a purely stylistic one, and that the best way to explain the situation is to remove all mention of it, then who am I to argue? Do you also contend that Toys-R-Us is basically on par with the Hasbro Toy Shop, because they get given exclusives to sell too, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 04:50, 10 July 2010 (EDT)
	:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)		:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
	::::[http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07-bush.cfm Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007] theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)		::::[http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07-bush.cfm Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007] theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

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	::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
	:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)		:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
			::::[http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07-bush.cfm Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007] theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

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	:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
	::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
			:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

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	If BotCon 1997 wasn't officially sanctioned by Hasbro, why did they get toys and get graced by Hasbro's presence? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Till_All_Are_One_%28Transformers_Theme%29&curid=54593&diff=467545&oldid=467418 18:01, 22 June 2010 (EDT)]		If BotCon 1997 wasn't officially sanctioned by Hasbro, why did they get toys and get graced by Hasbro's presence? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Till_All_Are_One_%28Transformers_Theme%29&curid=54593&diff=467545&oldid=467418 18:01, 22 June 2010 (EDT)]
	:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
			::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

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	:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
	::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
			::::That's fair enough, but it still only answers part of the question. But whatever, I really don't care that much. If you guys are saying that there's no discernible difference in the Hasbro/BotCon relationship before and after 2002, and that the decision to not use the word "Transformers" here or anywhere on any of the 3H music albums was a purely stylistic one, and that the best way to explain the situation is to remove all mention of it, then who am I to argue? Do you also contend that Toys-R-Us is basically on par with the Hasbro Toy Shop, because they get given exclusives to sell too, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 04:50, 10 July 2010 (EDT)
	:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)		:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
	::::[http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07-bush.cfm Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007] theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)		::::[http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07-bush.cfm Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007] theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

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	::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
	:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)		:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
			::::[http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07-bush.cfm Here's where it says it was the BotCon 2007] theme song. Unfortunately, Hasbro's news post on the 2007-era Transformers.com site where they put up the full mp3 of this song is long gone. But yes, doesn't this suggest that this song was sanctioned by Hasbro 3 years ago and that this article is inaccurate? --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 03:34, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

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	:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
	::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
			:::I am still waiting for Magnus Maximus to reply to my question about this song being available for download on Hasbro's Transformers site in 2007 and being the BotCon 2007 theme song. --[[User:FFN\|FFN]] 10:53, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

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	If BotCon 1997 wasn't officially sanctioned by Hasbro, why did they get toys and get graced by Hasbro's presence? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Till_All_Are_One_%28Transformers_Theme%29&curid=54593&diff=467545&oldid=467418 18:01, 22 June 2010 (EDT)]		If BotCon 1997 wasn't officially sanctioned by Hasbro, why did they get toys and get graced by Hasbro's presence? --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Till_All_Are_One_%28Transformers_Theme%29&curid=54593&diff=467545&oldid=467418 18:01, 22 June 2010 (EDT)]
	:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)		:So then why do the BotCon and 3H pages say that it only became official in 2003? Also, [http://www.reocities.com/dairylandtransfans/DTFdairyconfanfics.html Dairycon has had a load of toys], and Hasbro were at [[Hasbro UK exclusive limited Edition Handmade Samples\|AutoAssembly 2008]] and are at TFCon this year (and probably a few more), but that doesn't make those cons official, right? - [[User:Magnus Maximus\|Magnus Maximus]] 03:20, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
			::Dairycon exclusives are mass-produced customs and thus far all TFCon exclusives have been bootleg toys. Even Nightbird is an Animated Arcee modded by a third party. Meanwhile, the BotCon exclusives, ever since 1996, have always been Hasbro molds authorized by Hasbro to be redecoed into exclusive figures. Therein lies the difference. --[[User:Detour\|Detour]] 04:13, 23 June 2010 (EDT)