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	So after a second use in RiD that seems to push it out as a one-off quip, I'm thinking that, similar to how "scrap" has supplanted "slag", this is the new word to take the place of "[[Allspark]]", to avoid confusion with the [[AllSpark\|physical object]]. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 18:47, 24 January 2012 (EST)		So after a second use in RiD that seems to push it out as a one-off quip, I'm thinking that, similar to how "scrap" has supplanted "slag", this is the new word to take the place of "Allspark", to avoid confusion with the [[AllSpark\|physical object]]. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 18:47, 24 January 2012 (EST)
	:I dunno. The Allspark is the Transformers counterpart to Brahman while the Afterspark is explicitly described as a place. Not all afterlife concepts need to be the same thing. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:20, 24 January 2012 (EST)		:I dunno. The Allspark is the Transformers counterpart to Brahman while the Afterspark is explicitly described as a place. Not all afterlife concepts need to be the same thing. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:20, 24 January 2012 (EST)
	::Valid point. I guess I'm just conjecturing that I think the days of the "Allspark" being used to describe the afterlife are past us. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 05:04, 25 January 2012 (EST)		::Valid point. I guess I'm just conjecturing that I think the days of the "Allspark" being used to describe the afterlife are past us. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 05:04, 25 January 2012 (EST)

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	Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

			== Moved discussion from "Talk: Afterspark" ==
			So after a second use in RiD that seems to push it out as a one-off quip, I'm thinking that, similar to how "scrap" has supplanted "slag", this is the new word to take the place of "[[Allspark]]", to avoid confusion with the [[AllSpark\|physical object]]. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 18:47, 24 January 2012 (EST)
			:I dunno. The Allspark is the Transformers counterpart to Brahman while the Afterspark is explicitly described as a place. Not all afterlife concepts need to be the same thing. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:20, 24 January 2012 (EST)
			::Valid point. I guess I'm just conjecturing that I think the days of the "Allspark" being used to describe the afterlife are past us. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 05:04, 25 January 2012 (EST)

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	Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)



	~~Who the fuck puts these comments on pictures: "Yes,it does look like a big sperm on purpose." Seriously,get a life~~

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	Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)



			Who the fuck puts these comments on pictures: "Yes,it does look like a big sperm on purpose." Seriously,get a life

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	Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Derik: /* Unicron Trilogy */

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Unicron Trilogy

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	[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/Unibio01b.jpg Unicron's Bio Card]		[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/Unibio01b.jpg Unicron's Bio Card]

	Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
			:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Monzo: Unicron Trilogy?

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Unicron Trilogy?

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	:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)		:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

	::::Either's really fine with me. Long as it does the job. Consider it done and done. :) --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 14:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::::Either's really fine with me. Long as it does the job. Consider it done and done. :) --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 14:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

			==Unicron Trilogy==
			Unicron's Transformers Armada bio seems to treat the All Spark - or ''an'' All Spark - as the creator of Primus and Unicron. Uh, how does this get classified?

			[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/Unibio01b.jpg Unicron's Bio Card]

			Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

ZacWilliam: /* Need (Dimension) and (Artifact) tags. */

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	::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)		::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

			::::Either's really fine with me. Long as it does the job. Consider it done and done. :) --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 14:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Steve-o: /* Need (Dimension) and (Artifact) tags. */

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Need (Dimension) and (Artifact) tags.

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	:It would be a break in the article-naming schema we use, since the two are spelled differently. Personally I would rather make an exception by adding another, more obvious disambig notice or a short "It is very similarly named to the big-ass cube from the movie." sentence to the end of the introduction. I think of article titles as something we should keep pretty rigid. (Although admittedly I'm aware of a bunch that should be moved to fit the scheme that I've been too lazy to fix.) --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)		:It would be a break in the article-naming schema we use, since the two are spelled differently. Personally I would rather make an exception by adding another, more obvious disambig notice or a short "It is very similarly named to the big-ass cube from the movie." sentence to the end of the introduction. I think of article titles as something we should keep pretty rigid. (Although admittedly I'm aware of a bunch that should be moved to fit the scheme that I've been too lazy to fix.) --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

	::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

			:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		Was this retconned later? I had the impression that a later piece of material turned the All Spark into the One (vis-a-vis Primus/Unicron's creator), but I'm not sure if that was a UT-specific tidbit or not... -- [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 01:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
	:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)		:I'd call it an error. The terminolory and origin appear (almost word for word) in both some Armada Readers Digest books and the Ultimate Guide, but there's it's 'the Creeator' or 'The One.' Tying it to the allspark in any way makes no sense. I reccomend making it a trivia note. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 01:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

			== Moved discussion from "Talk: Afterspark" ==
			So after a second use in RiD that seems to push it out as a one-off quip, I'm thinking that, similar to how "scrap" has supplanted "slag", this is the new word to take the place of "[[Allspark]]", to avoid confusion with the [[AllSpark\|physical object]]. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 18:47, 24 January 2012 (EST)
			:I dunno. The Allspark is the Transformers counterpart to Brahman while the Afterspark is explicitly described as a place. Not all afterlife concepts need to be the same thing. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 19:20, 24 January 2012 (EST)
			::Valid point. I guess I'm just conjecturing that I think the days of the "Allspark" being used to describe the afterlife are past us. - [[User:Chris McFeely\|Chris McFeely]] 05:04, 25 January 2012 (EST)

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	::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)		::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

	:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

			::::Either's really fine with me. Long as it does the job. Consider it done and done. :) --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 14:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	:It would be a break in the article-naming schema we use, since the two are spelled differently. Personally I would rather make an exception by adding another, more obvious disambig notice or a short "It is very similarly named to the big-ass cube from the movie." sentence to the end of the introduction. I think of article titles as something we should keep pretty rigid. (Although admittedly I'm aware of a bunch that should be moved to fit the scheme that I've been too lazy to fix.) --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)		:It would be a break in the article-naming schema we use, since the two are spelled differently. Personally I would rather make an exception by adding another, more obvious disambig notice or a short "It is very similarly named to the big-ass cube from the movie." sentence to the end of the introduction. I think of article titles as something we should keep pretty rigid. (Although admittedly I'm aware of a bunch that should be moved to fit the scheme that I've been too lazy to fix.) --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 05:14, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

	::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::Thing is, they not "really" spelled different at all, they're just parsed different. Someone who's not studied in TFs enough to need to look up Allspark/All Spark quite possibly has no idea that one is written with a space and one isn't. It's REALLY close and very easily confused, enough to forgive the tags I think. But, I also agree that a more obvious disambig note on the page would also solve the problem, so if that works better for folks it'll do the job fine too. --[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 10:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

			:::"Parsed" differently, whatever. When I say they are spelled differently, I mean there is a different set of characters in the name of one than the name of the other. A space is a character, as far as computers and typing are concerned. I am not, however, expecting anybody except uberfans to realize ahead of time that they have slightly different names and correctly search for the one they want. All I'm saying is that if two article titles are different by even one character, I would prefer we not use a parenthetical on them. Perhaps I'm being too pedantic and everyone will disagree with me, but that's my own preference. I'm happy to make an exception in the because of the likely confusion, but prefer the exception be in the articles' content rather than their titles. --[[User:Steve-o\|Steve-o]] 14:41, 18 October 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>