Talk:Transformers: BotBots (franchise) - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ATransformers%3A_BotBots_%28franchise%29 Talk:Transformers: BotBots (franchise) - Revision history 2026-09-17T03:57:22Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1606663&oldid=prev ParadoxFactor: /* Terminology shift */ 2022-04-20T23:18:07Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Terminology shift</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:18, 20 April 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:That seems fairly reasonable if it's going to be Hasbro's preferred terminology going forward. We can still use "tribe" for specific fiction that uses the term and add a trivia note to the main BotBots page noting the shift, but we should probably opt for "squad" in all other usages. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:14, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:That seems fairly reasonable if it's going to be Hasbro's preferred terminology going forward. We can still use "tribe" for specific fiction that uses the term and add a trivia note to the main BotBots page noting the shift, but we should probably opt for "squad" in all other usages. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:14, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Fully agree. Squad seems to have become the go to usage starting with the Mad Libs book, which was released after the last BotBots website update. Given the cartoon's usafge is the most public exposure to the franchise, using squad makes sense to me.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 19:17, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>:Fully agree. Squad seems to have become the go to usage starting with the Mad Libs book, which was released after the last BotBots website update. Given the cartoon's usafge is the most public exposure to the franchise, using squad makes sense to me.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 19:17, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

ParadoxFactor https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1606660&oldid=prev ParadoxFactor at 23:17, 20 April 2022 2022-04-20T23:17:09Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:17, 20 April 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:That seems fairly reasonable if it's going to be Hasbro's preferred terminology going forward. We can still use "tribe" for specific fiction that uses the term and add a trivia note to the main BotBots page noting the shift, but we should probably opt for "squad" in all other usages. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:14, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:That seems fairly reasonable if it's going to be Hasbro's preferred terminology going forward. We can still use "tribe" for specific fiction that uses the term and add a trivia note to the main BotBots page noting the shift, but we should probably opt for "squad" in all other usages. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:14, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Fully agree. Squad seems to have become the go to usage starting with the Mad Libs book, which was released after the last BotBots website update. Given the cartoon's usafge is the most public exposure to the franchise, using squad makes sense to me.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 19:17, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ParadoxFactor https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1606654&oldid=prev Cyberlink420 at 23:14, 20 April 2022 2022-04-20T23:14:29Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:14, 20 April 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Terminology shift==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Terminology shift==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:That seems fairly reasonable if it's going to be Hasbro's preferred terminology going forward. We can still use "tribe" for specific fiction that uses the term and add a trivia note to the main BotBots page noting the shift, but we should probably opt for "squad" in all other usages. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:14, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Cyberlink420 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1606625&oldid=prev Rgby at 19:26, 20 April 2022 2022-04-20T19:26:31Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:26, 20 April 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Makes sense to me. We have been using [[Energon radiation]] for the cloud that brought them to life, expanding Allspark Mutation as well, just makes sense. Only real difference I see is the movie mutations are just technological based and BotBots are anything. Plus they still are whatever they were before. So [[Clogstopper]] is a robot made of wood and rubber, [[Burgertron]] is a robot made of beef, buns, ect.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 13:20, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Makes sense to me. We have been using [[Energon radiation]] for the cloud that brought them to life, expanding Allspark Mutation as well, just makes sense. Only real difference I see is the movie mutations are just technological based and BotBots are anything. Plus they still are whatever they were before. So [[Clogstopper]] is a robot made of wood and rubber, [[Burgertron]] is a robot made of beef, buns, ect.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 13:20, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==Terminology shift==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Hasbro has started very consistently using "squad" instead of "tribe" across both the Botbots cartoon and the series 6 product descriptions and I propose TFWiki do the same, both for consistency's sake and because I think it's likely that they changed it due to the racial baggage that comes with the word. (They do still use "tribe" on the Botbots website but it looks like hasn't been updated in like, years.) [[User:Rgby|Rgby]] ([[User talk:Rgby|talk]]) 15:26, 20 April 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Rgby https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1601734&oldid=prev ParadoxFactor at 17:21, 27 March 2022 2022-03-27T17:21:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:21, 27 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Makes sense to me. We have been using [[Energon radiation]] for the cloud that brought them to life, expanding Allspark Mutation as well, just makes sense. Only real difference I see is the movie mutations are just technological based and BotBots are anything. Plus they still are whatever they were before. So [[Clogstopper]] is a robot made of wood and rubber, [[Burgertron]] is a robot made of beef, buns, ect.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 13:20, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</ins>:::Makes sense to me. We have been using [[Energon radiation]] for the cloud that brought them to life, expanding Allspark Mutation as well, just makes sense. Only real difference I see is the movie mutations are just technological based and BotBots are anything. Plus they still are whatever they were before. So [[Clogstopper]] is a robot made of wood and rubber, [[Burgertron]] is a robot made of beef, buns, ect.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 13:20, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

ParadoxFactor https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1601733&oldid=prev ParadoxFactor at 17:20, 27 March 2022 2022-03-27T17:20:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:20, 27 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Makes sense to me. We have been using [[Energon radiation]] for the cloud that brought them to life, expanding Allspark Mutation as well, just makes sense. Only real difference I see is the movie mutations are just technological based and BotBots are anything. Plus they still are whatever they were before. So [[Clogstopper]] is a robot made of wood and rubber, [[Burgertron]] is a robot made of beef, buns, ect.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 13:20, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ParadoxFactor https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1601683&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 14:27, 27 March 2022 2022-03-27T14:27:50Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:27, 27 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, but I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, but I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::I agree the Allspark Mutation page needs to expand to include BotBots. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 10:27, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1601681&oldid=prev Jalaguy at 13:58, 27 March 2022 2022-03-27T13:58:47Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:58, 27 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Is there a need for a page on BotBots as a race of transformer? [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 05:46, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Is there a need for a page on BotBots as a race of transformer? [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 05:46, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, but I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, but I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::My inclination would be to rework the existing [[AllSpark Mutation]] page into a broader "energon mutation" page, that covers the bots from TF07 and ROTF, the bots from that Bee Movie deleted scene, and BotBots. While the details obviously differ between continuities, there's a consistent base concept of "energon turning inanimate objects into mischievous Transformers" - we've taken a similar approach with articles like [[unspace]] that cover a concept that's basically the same idea but has different names/details across continuities. (For reference, ROTF explicitly names the energy radiated by the AllSpark as energon, so IMO it's not a stretch at all grouping those bots into this.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:58, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Jalaguy https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1601600&oldid=prev Fanofcoolstuff27 at 11:20, 27 March 2022 2022-03-27T11:20:50Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:20, 27 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Is there a need for a page on BotBots as a race of transformer? [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 05:46, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Is there a need for a page on BotBots as a race of transformer? [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 05:46, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">by </del>I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but </ins>I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Fanofcoolstuff27 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_BotBots_(franchise)&diff=1601597&oldid=prev Fanofcoolstuff27 at 11:11, 27 March 2022 2022-03-27T11:11:36Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:11, 27 March 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*</del>Is there a need for a page on BotBots as a race of transformer? [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 05:46, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Is there a need for a page on BotBots as a race of transformer? [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 05:46<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:You know, I've kinda wondered this myself, especially given the amount of times I've seen "BotBots" (in the species context) ending up getting linked to the ''BotBots'' franchise article (this article) because it's all we have right now. I can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but with the amount of edits I've done to a ton of BotBot-related articles over the past day and a bit, I've seen several links like that. I definitely think there is enough of a reason for an article, by I'd be interested what others might have to say on the topic. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:11</ins>, 27 March 2022 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

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