Talk:Transformers Hall of Fame - Revision history

M Sipher: /* What incarnation? Take 3. */

2024-11-01T01:23:04Z

What incarnation? Take 3.

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	Okay, I'm seeing a lot of changes in who is tagged with the HOF logo lately. The ones that stick out in my mind are [[Starscream (BW)]], [[Grimlock (RID)]] and any of the Shattered Glass versions. Has Hasbro specifically stated that those versions are not in the Hall of Fame? Can we extrapolate from the fact that [[Megatron (BW)]] is a separate character, that Starscream (BW) is as well? What are our qualifications here? I would feel most comfortable tagging any character with the same name as an HOF member until such time as we are explicitly told that they are separate. Discuss. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 16:22, 29 January 2013 (EST)		Okay, I'm seeing a lot of changes in who is tagged with the HOF logo lately. The ones that stick out in my mind are [[Starscream (BW)]], [[Grimlock (RID 2001)\|Grimlock (RID)]] and any of the Shattered Glass versions. Has Hasbro specifically stated that those versions are not in the Hall of Fame? Can we extrapolate from the fact that [[Megatron (BW)]] is a separate character, that Starscream (BW) is as well? What are our qualifications here? I would feel most comfortable tagging any character with the same name as an HOF member until such time as we are explicitly told that they are separate. Discuss. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 16:22, 29 January 2013 (EST)
	:When Hasbro inducted Grimlock the brutal, angry t-rex into the Hall of Fame, I'm fairly sure they didn't intend to count Grimlock the calm, upbeat construction vehicle in with that... They were inducting the character archetypes, not character names. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 16:30, 29 January 2013 (EST)		:When Hasbro inducted Grimlock the brutal, angry t-rex into the Hall of Fame, I'm fairly sure they didn't intend to count Grimlock the calm, upbeat construction vehicle in with that... They were inducting the character archetypes, not character names. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 16:30, 29 January 2013 (EST)
	::Yes. It is absolutely NOT "everyone with this name." Shockwave the Mini-Con is not in the Hall of Fame. It is "every version of this character." RID Grimlock is a name re-use, not a version of the Grimlock character who's in the HOF. I think Shattered Glass and "Dark Side" versions should be out, too. The Optimus Prime Hasbro put in the Hall of Fame is the Heroic Autobot, not any evil incarnation. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:27, 29 January 2013 (EST)		::Yes. It is absolutely NOT "everyone with this name." Shockwave the Mini-Con is not in the Hall of Fame. It is "every version of this character." RID Grimlock is a name re-use, not a version of the Grimlock character who's in the HOF. I think Shattered Glass and "Dark Side" versions should be out, too. The Optimus Prime Hasbro put in the Hall of Fame is the Heroic Autobot, not any evil incarnation. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:27, 29 January 2013 (EST)

Saix: /* What incarnation? Take 3. */clean up, replaced: (BWII) → (BW) (2)

2021-11-04T21:47:06Z

What incarnation? Take 3.: clean up, replaced: (BWII) → (BW) (2)

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	== What incarnation? Take 3. ==		== What incarnation? Take 3. ==

	Okay, I'm seeing a lot of changes in who is tagged with the HOF logo lately. The ones that stick out in my mind are [[Starscream (~~BWII~~)]], [[Grimlock (RID)]] and any of the Shattered Glass versions. Has Hasbro specifically stated that those versions are not in the Hall of Fame? Can we extrapolate from the fact that [[Megatron (BW)]] is a separate character, that Starscream (~~BWII~~) is as well? What are our qualifications here? I would feel most comfortable tagging any character with the same name as an HOF member until such time as we are explicitly told that they are separate. Discuss. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 16:22, 29 January 2013 (EST)		Okay, I'm seeing a lot of changes in who is tagged with the HOF logo lately. The ones that stick out in my mind are [[Starscream (BW)]], [[Grimlock (RID)]] and any of the Shattered Glass versions. Has Hasbro specifically stated that those versions are not in the Hall of Fame? Can we extrapolate from the fact that [[Megatron (BW)]] is a separate character, that Starscream (BW) is as well? What are our qualifications here? I would feel most comfortable tagging any character with the same name as an HOF member until such time as we are explicitly told that they are separate. Discuss. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 16:22, 29 January 2013 (EST)
	:When Hasbro inducted Grimlock the brutal, angry t-rex into the Hall of Fame, I'm fairly sure they didn't intend to count Grimlock the calm, upbeat construction vehicle in with that... They were inducting the character archetypes, not character names. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 16:30, 29 January 2013 (EST)		:When Hasbro inducted Grimlock the brutal, angry t-rex into the Hall of Fame, I'm fairly sure they didn't intend to count Grimlock the calm, upbeat construction vehicle in with that... They were inducting the character archetypes, not character names. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 16:30, 29 January 2013 (EST)
	::Yes. It is absolutely NOT "everyone with this name." Shockwave the Mini-Con is not in the Hall of Fame. It is "every version of this character." RID Grimlock is a name re-use, not a version of the Grimlock character who's in the HOF. I think Shattered Glass and "Dark Side" versions should be out, too. The Optimus Prime Hasbro put in the Hall of Fame is the Heroic Autobot, not any evil incarnation. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:27, 29 January 2013 (EST)		::Yes. It is absolutely NOT "everyone with this name." Shockwave the Mini-Con is not in the Hall of Fame. It is "every version of this character." RID Grimlock is a name re-use, not a version of the Grimlock character who's in the HOF. I think Shattered Glass and "Dark Side" versions should be out, too. The Optimus Prime Hasbro put in the Hall of Fame is the Heroic Autobot, not any evil incarnation. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:27, 29 January 2013 (EST)

Saix at 02:17, 19 August 2015

2015-08-19T02:17:41Z

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	{{note\|Copied from Alientraveler and my talkpages for more input}}		{{note\|Copied from Alientraveler and my talkpages for more input}}
	Are [[Ratchet (Universe)]], [[Ratchet (SG)]], [[Soundwave (BW)]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)]], [[Sir Soundwave]], [[Ironhide (Energon)]], [[Ironhide (~~Universe~~)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (SG)]], [[Ironhide (Armada)]], <strike>[[Cliffjumper (Armada)]], [[Cliffjumper (Energon)]] and [[Cliffjumper (SG)]]</strike> supposed to get HOF icons too? I could see the two Armada characters being excluded as they are both females, but the others seem like they should definitely be included. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 6 June 2011 (EDT)		Are [[Ratchet (Universe)]], [[Ratchet (SG)]], [[Soundwave (BW)]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)]], [[Sir Soundwave]], [[Ironhide (Energon)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (SG)]], [[Ironhide (Armada)]], <strike>[[Cliffjumper (Armada)]], [[Cliffjumper (Energon)]] and [[Cliffjumper (SG)]]</strike> supposed to get HOF icons too? I could see the two Armada characters being excluded as they are both females, but the others seem like they should definitely be included. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
	:I based the inclusion on the toys shown at the Hall of Fame. Check them out [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228373357188447.77714.166004856758631 here]. I'm still waiting on the tribute videos to go online to see if Hasbro counts ''Cybertron'' Soundwave. [[User:Alientraveller\|Alientraveller]] 12:37, 6 June 2011 (EDT)		:I based the inclusion on the toys shown at the Hall of Fame. Check them out [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228373357188447.77714.166004856758631 here]. I'm still waiting on the tribute videos to go online to see if Hasbro counts ''Cybertron'' Soundwave. [[User:Alientraveller\|Alientraveller]] 12:37, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
	::I think you're putting a little too much emphasis on which toys were used for these rather random displays. For example, no RID Prime or Megatron is present in the displays but Hasbro said that no version of OP or Megs was eligible for the fan votes as they were automatically inducted as part of the first class. Similar language was used to exclude any version of Ironhide etc in this year's voting. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)		::I think you're putting a little too much emphasis on which toys were used for these rather random displays. For example, no RID Prime or Megatron is present in the displays but Hasbro said that no version of OP or Megs was eligible for the fan votes as they were automatically inducted as part of the first class. Similar language was used to exclude any version of Ironhide etc in this year's voting. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

ItsWalky: /* Why is Hasbro using Facebook for 2014? */

2014-06-16T02:39:35Z

Why is Hasbro using Facebook for 2014?

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	Not that it's a problem, but it just seems a little weird to just suddenly switch from the previous voting format to this new one.--[[User:AwesomeAutobot\|AwesomeAutobot]] 21:38, 15 June 2014 (EDIT)		Not that it's a problem, but it just seems a little weird to just suddenly switch from the previous voting format to this new one.--[[User:AwesomeAutobot\|AwesomeAutobot]] 21:38, 15 June 2014 (EDIT)
			:we are not hasbro so we don't know --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky\|talk]]) 22:39, 15 June 2014 (EDT)

AwesomeAutobot at 02:38, 16 June 2014

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	Surprising but true. We taking part this year?--[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 11:27, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		Surprising but true. We taking part this year?--[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 11:27, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
	:Paging [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] to the white courtesy phone...--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 11:43, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		:Paging [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] to the white courtesy phone...--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 11:43, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

			== Why is Hasbro using Facebook for 2014? ==

			Not that it's a problem, but it just seems a little weird to just suddenly switch from the previous voting format to this new one.--[[User:AwesomeAutobot\|AwesomeAutobot]] 21:38, 15 June 2014 (EDIT)

Rosicrucian: /* 2013 is a go! */

2013-05-24T15:43:55Z

2013 is a go!

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	Surprising but true. We taking part this year?--[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 11:27, 24 May 2013 (EDT)		Surprising but true. We taking part this year?--[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 11:27, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
			:Paging [[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] to the white courtesy phone...--[[User:Rosicrucian\|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian\|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 11:43, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

ZacWilliam: /* 2013 is a go! */ new section

2013-05-24T15:27:44Z

2013 is a go!: new section

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	::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)		::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)
	::::::::: But based on that logic, Energon Downshift belongs in this category. Side note, Thrust (BM) has a hall of fame faction symbol. i assume he falls into the same category as Galvatron (G1) but I wanted to check here before removing it.[[User:Autobot Hunter\|Autobot Hunter]] 17:57, 28 February 2013 (EST)		::::::::: But based on that logic, Energon Downshift belongs in this category. Side note, Thrust (BM) has a hall of fame faction symbol. i assume he falls into the same category as Galvatron (G1) but I wanted to check here before removing it.[[User:Autobot Hunter\|Autobot Hunter]] 17:57, 28 February 2013 (EST)

			== 2013 is a go! ==


			Surprising but true. We taking part this year?--[[User:ZacWilliam\|ZacWilliam]] 11:27, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

Autobot Hunter at 22:57, 28 February 2013

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	:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)		:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)
	::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)		::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)
			::::::::: But based on that logic, Energon Downshift belongs in this category. Side note, Thrust (BM) has a hall of fame faction symbol. i assume he falls into the same category as Galvatron (G1) but I wanted to check here before removing it.[[User:Autobot Hunter\|Autobot Hunter]] 17:57, 28 February 2013 (EST)

Flicky1991: /* What incarnation? Take 3. */

2013-02-07T10:09:24Z

What incarnation? Take 3.

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	::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)		::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)
	:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)		:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)
			::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)

Sabrblade: /* What incarnation? Take 3. */

2013-02-01T18:00:29Z

What incarnation? Take 3.

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	:::::His toy bio calls him a "a cunning Decepticon warrior and scientist" and a "cold strategist". Something was lost in translation to the cartoon there! --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:16, 1 February 2013 (EST)		:::::His toy bio calls him a "a cunning Decepticon warrior and scientist" and a "cold strategist". Something was lost in translation to the cartoon there! --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:16, 1 February 2013 (EST)
	::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)		::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)
			:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)

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	{{note\|Copied from Alientraveler and my talkpages for more input}}		{{note\|Copied from Alientraveler and my talkpages for more input}}
	Are [[Ratchet (Universe)]], [[Ratchet (SG)]], [[Soundwave (BW)]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)]], [[Sir Soundwave]], [[Ironhide (Energon)]], [[Ironhide (~~Universe~~)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (SG)]], [[Ironhide (Armada)]], <strike>[[Cliffjumper (Armada)]], [[Cliffjumper (Energon)]] and [[Cliffjumper (SG)]]</strike> supposed to get HOF icons too? I could see the two Armada characters being excluded as they are both females, but the others seem like they should definitely be included. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 6 June 2011 (EDT)		Are [[Ratchet (Universe)]], [[Ratchet (SG)]], [[Soundwave (BW)]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)]], [[Sir Soundwave]], [[Ironhide (Energon)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (RID)]], [[Ironhide (SG)]], [[Ironhide (Armada)]], <strike>[[Cliffjumper (Armada)]], [[Cliffjumper (Energon)]] and [[Cliffjumper (SG)]]</strike> supposed to get HOF icons too? I could see the two Armada characters being excluded as they are both females, but the others seem like they should definitely be included. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:35, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
	:I based the inclusion on the toys shown at the Hall of Fame. Check them out [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228373357188447.77714.166004856758631 here]. I'm still waiting on the tribute videos to go online to see if Hasbro counts ''Cybertron'' Soundwave. [[User:Alientraveller\|Alientraveller]] 12:37, 6 June 2011 (EDT)		:I based the inclusion on the toys shown at the Hall of Fame. Check them out [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228373357188447.77714.166004856758631 here]. I'm still waiting on the tribute videos to go online to see if Hasbro counts ''Cybertron'' Soundwave. [[User:Alientraveller\|Alientraveller]] 12:37, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
	::I think you're putting a little too much emphasis on which toys were used for these rather random displays. For example, no RID Prime or Megatron is present in the displays but Hasbro said that no version of OP or Megs was eligible for the fan votes as they were automatically inducted as part of the first class. Similar language was used to exclude any version of Ironhide etc in this year's voting. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)		::I think you're putting a little too much emphasis on which toys were used for these rather random displays. For example, no RID Prime or Megatron is present in the displays but Hasbro said that no version of OP or Megs was eligible for the fan votes as they were automatically inducted as part of the first class. Similar language was used to exclude any version of Ironhide etc in this year's voting. --[[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 12:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

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	:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)		:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)
	::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)		::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)
			::::::::: But based on that logic, Energon Downshift belongs in this category. Side note, Thrust (BM) has a hall of fame faction symbol. i assume he falls into the same category as Galvatron (G1) but I wanted to check here before removing it.[[User:Autobot Hunter\|Autobot Hunter]] 17:57, 28 February 2013 (EST)

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	::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)		::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)
	:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)		:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)
			::::::::If personality factors into it that much, then you get the whole argument about whether G1 cartoon Shockwave and G1 comic Shcokwave are the same character. Not every aspect of a character has to be the same - they just need to be "close enough". In Shockblast's case, he looks just like Shockwave and shares his name in Japan. Faced with that, his personality doesn't seem like a big problem. --[[User:Flicky1991\|Flicky1991]] 05:09, 7 February 2013 (EST)

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	:::::His toy bio calls him a "a cunning Decepticon warrior and scientist" and a "cold strategist". Something was lost in translation to the cartoon there! --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:16, 1 February 2013 (EST)		:::::His toy bio calls him a "a cunning Decepticon warrior and scientist" and a "cold strategist". Something was lost in translation to the cartoon there! --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:16, 1 February 2013 (EST)
	::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)		::::::Yeah, I was looking at the toy bio when I wrote that, haven't actually seen the cartoon in full. Although, to be honest, 'really good at killing people' is kind of a stock Shockwave trait too... Look at Marvel, and TFA, and John Barber's movie comics... [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] 04:24, 1 February 2013 (EST)
			:::::::Thing is, the cartoon version of Shockblast was the one spotlighted in the video, who was a rather un-Shockwave-like vicious criminal who relished in the misery and brutal suffering of others. He was a crazy, homicidal maniac with a very bad temper and a stark sarcastic, arrogant, and impatient nature. There was nothing logical or scientific about this literal brute. --[[User:Sabrblade\|Sabrblade]] 13:00, 1 February 2013 (EST)