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	Uh, just how do Arcee, Bumbleebee, Jack, and Miko get inside the tunnel the relic is in, in a big city with lots of people, without no one noticing?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.107.152\|71.162.107.152]] 15:22, 11 May 2012 (EDT)		Uh, just how do Arcee, Bumbleebee, Jack, and Miko get inside the tunnel the relic is in, in a big city with lots of people, without no one noticing?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.107.152\|71.162.107.152]] 15:22, 11 May 2012 (EDT)
	:When they find the subway, there's what looks like a big dirt ramp on one side which they presumably drove down. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 19:18, 11 May 2012 (EDT)		:When they find the subway, there's what looks like a big dirt ramp on one side which they presumably drove down. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 19:18, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

			== Pictures ==

			Are there any pictures coming up on this page soon?[[User:SirSpoonwave\|SirSpoonwave]] 20:00, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

ItsWalky: /* Conservation of Insecticon-su. */ When I said "safe the speculation for a message board," I meant all of it.

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Conservation of Insecticon-su.: When I said "safe the speculation for a message board," I meant all of it.

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	:That and they explicitly said that its "handy when you need to pass through solid objects, '''or vice versa'''."--[[User:Carrion\|Carrion]] 14:02, 6 May 2012 (EDT)		:That and they explicitly said that its "handy when you need to pass through solid objects, '''or vice versa'''."--[[User:Carrion\|Carrion]] 14:02, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

	~~== Conservation of Insecticon-su. ==~~

	Is it me, or have they changed the power of insecticons -again-? Crossfire - One is almost too much for Megatron, Armada - They go down like flies, Tunnel Vision - One seems not to even -feel- when it gets shot. [[Special:Contributions/125.239.114.28\|125.239.114.28]] 08:20, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
	: Well in Crossfire and Armada they were under Airachnid's mind control, so during Armada her attention was divided and could theoretically make the insecticons less effective. Now that they are independent, their effectiveness goes back to what we saw in Orion Pax Part 3. Of course, if another episode later shows multiple insecticons dropping like flies this theory is scrap.--[[User:Megabob452\|Megabob452]] 13:20, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
	:: That... is an awesome explanation. So Megatron controls them through loyalty, Airachnid through mind control. Wonder what'll happen if Shockwave ever appears. [[Special:Contributions/222.153.251.249\|222.153.251.249]] 00:11, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
	:::Here's another thought, a lack of energon. Skyquake seemed to be in some kind of stasis device when he was introduced. Starscream's energon infusion to both appaerntly open the container and reawaken Skyquake. We have no idea how long the Insecticon in Crossfire was out of it's stasis pod, but it was out of the pod when we first see it. In Armada Airachnid releases the Insecticons from their pods before sending them to attack the Nemisis and destroy Megatron. It could be that prolonged duration in stasis weakens a Transformer and they need to get an energon infusion to get back to full strength. That would likely also explain the difference in the Insecticons strength levels between episodes, by Tunnel Vision the Insecticons have finally had a little energon and their up to full strength making them tougher in battle. -annonymous 5/8/2012 12:48 AM EST
	~~::::That's cool and all, but it's all speculation. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:33, 8 May 2012 (EDT)~~
	:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012
	~~::::::Generally we'd prefer speculation to be kept to message boards and not on here. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 9 May 2012 (EDT)~~
	:::::::Weighing in here Technically what Megabob452 said was speculation as well. Anything involving the Insecticons outside what is obviously demonstrated in the series (I.E, they have a very interesting/original vocal sound effect), would be considered speculation. We simply know absolutely NOTHING about them in this series (excluding what the aligned book series has said), besides that they're considered 'vermin' as stated by Arcee in Orion Pax part 3, that it is unknown how they arrived on Earth, and that they were called "sentries" by Megatron. Not much else has been spoken about them. (If I missed some hardcore description or "passerby" information about them said in past episodes then check me on that) Most likely more will be revealed in later episodes, but to suggest that they're stronger because of Airachnid's influence, or a lack of Energon is both, in reality, Speculation. Unless someone on screen says or reveals otherwise, we have nothing to build any conclusions on currently. However, like I said before, they have an awesome sound effect, and apparently can stick to ceilings while locked in Stasis. (Has anyone discussed this in Flying Mind?) [[User:Arcee-Cola\|Arcee-Cola]] 19:39, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

	== Continuity error? ==		== Continuity error? ==

Arcee-Cola: /* Conservation of Insecticon-su. */

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	:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012		:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012
	::::::Generally we'd prefer speculation to be kept to message boards and not on here. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 9 May 2012 (EDT)		::::::Generally we'd prefer speculation to be kept to message boards and not on here. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
			:::::::Weighing in here Technically what Megabob452 said was speculation as well. Anything involving the Insecticons outside what is obviously demonstrated in the series (I.E, they have a very interesting/original vocal sound effect), would be considered speculation. We simply know absolutely NOTHING about them in this series (excluding what the aligned book series has said), besides that they're considered 'vermin' as stated by Arcee in Orion Pax part 3, that it is unknown how they arrived on Earth, and that they were called "sentries" by Megatron. Not much else has been spoken about them. (If I missed some hardcore description or "passerby" information about them said in past episodes then check me on that) Most likely more will be revealed in later episodes, but to suggest that they're stronger because of Airachnid's influence, or a lack of Energon is both, in reality, Speculation. Unless someone on screen says or reveals otherwise, we have nothing to build any conclusions on currently. However, like I said before, they have an awesome sound effect, and apparently can stick to ceilings while locked in Stasis. (Has anyone discussed this in Flying Mind?) [[User:Arcee-Cola\|Arcee-Cola]] 19:39, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

	== Continuity error? ==		== Continuity error? ==

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	Uh, just how do Arcee, Bumbleebee, Jack, and Miko get inside the tunnel the relic is in, in a big city with lots of people, without no one noticing?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.107.152\|71.162.107.152]] 15:22, 11 May 2012 (EDT)		Uh, just how do Arcee, Bumbleebee, Jack, and Miko get inside the tunnel the relic is in, in a big city with lots of people, without no one noticing?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.107.152\|71.162.107.152]] 15:22, 11 May 2012 (EDT)
			:When they find the subway, there's what looks like a big dirt ramp on one side which they presumably drove down. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 19:18, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

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	:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012		:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012
	::::::Generally we'd prefer speculation to be kept to message boards and not on here. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 9 May 2012 (EDT)		::::::Generally we'd prefer speculation to be kept to message boards and not on here. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 9 May 2012 (EDT)

			== Continuity error? ==

			Uh, just how do Arcee, Bumbleebee, Jack, and Miko get inside the tunnel the relic is in, in a big city with lots of people, without no one noticing?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.107.152\|71.162.107.152]] 15:22, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

ItsWalky: /* Conservation of Insecticon-su. */

2012-05-09T04:16:54Z

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	::::That's cool and all, but it's all speculation. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:33, 8 May 2012 (EDT)		::::That's cool and all, but it's all speculation. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:33, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
	:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012		:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012
			::::::Generally we'd prefer speculation to be kept to message boards and not on here. --[[User:ItsWalky\|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 9 May 2012 (EDT)

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	:::Here's another thought, a lack of energon. Skyquake seemed to be in some kind of stasis device when he was introduced. Starscream's energon infusion to both appaerntly open the container and reawaken Skyquake. We have no idea how long the Insecticon in Crossfire was out of it's stasis pod, but it was out of the pod when we first see it. In Armada Airachnid releases the Insecticons from their pods before sending them to attack the Nemisis and destroy Megatron. It could be that prolonged duration in stasis weakens a Transformer and they need to get an energon infusion to get back to full strength. That would likely also explain the difference in the Insecticons strength levels between episodes, by Tunnel Vision the Insecticons have finally had a little energon and their up to full strength making them tougher in battle. -annonymous 5/8/2012 12:48 AM EST		:::Here's another thought, a lack of energon. Skyquake seemed to be in some kind of stasis device when he was introduced. Starscream's energon infusion to both appaerntly open the container and reawaken Skyquake. We have no idea how long the Insecticon in Crossfire was out of it's stasis pod, but it was out of the pod when we first see it. In Armada Airachnid releases the Insecticons from their pods before sending them to attack the Nemisis and destroy Megatron. It could be that prolonged duration in stasis weakens a Transformer and they need to get an energon infusion to get back to full strength. That would likely also explain the difference in the Insecticons strength levels between episodes, by Tunnel Vision the Insecticons have finally had a little energon and their up to full strength making them tougher in battle. -annonymous 5/8/2012 12:48 AM EST
	::::That's cool and all, but it's all speculation. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:33, 8 May 2012 (EDT)		::::That's cool and all, but it's all speculation. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:33, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
			:::::Which is why it's not posted in the actual page. But it is something to watch for in the future. Or even for someone who knows how to get in tough with the right people (which I have no real knowledge of how to do so) to contact and see if their willing to say anything. It may be something worth noting that Skyquake didn't show any signs of weakness (save for not having a alt form) when he came out of his container while the insecticons clearly did. But it's not worth noting any of these theories in the actual pages until we have an offical explination of some kind. - annonymous 5/09/2012

Abates: /* Conservation of Insecticon-su. */

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	:: That... is an awesome explanation. So Megatron controls them through loyalty, Airachnid through mind control. Wonder what'll happen if Shockwave ever appears. [[Special:Contributions/222.153.251.249\|222.153.251.249]] 00:11, 8 May 2012 (EDT)		:: That... is an awesome explanation. So Megatron controls them through loyalty, Airachnid through mind control. Wonder what'll happen if Shockwave ever appears. [[Special:Contributions/222.153.251.249\|222.153.251.249]] 00:11, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
	:::Here's another thought, a lack of energon. Skyquake seemed to be in some kind of stasis device when he was introduced. Starscream's energon infusion to both appaerntly open the container and reawaken Skyquake. We have no idea how long the Insecticon in Crossfire was out of it's stasis pod, but it was out of the pod when we first see it. In Armada Airachnid releases the Insecticons from their pods before sending them to attack the Nemisis and destroy Megatron. It could be that prolonged duration in stasis weakens a Transformer and they need to get an energon infusion to get back to full strength. That would likely also explain the difference in the Insecticons strength levels between episodes, by Tunnel Vision the Insecticons have finally had a little energon and their up to full strength making them tougher in battle. -annonymous 5/8/2012 12:48 AM EST		:::Here's another thought, a lack of energon. Skyquake seemed to be in some kind of stasis device when he was introduced. Starscream's energon infusion to both appaerntly open the container and reawaken Skyquake. We have no idea how long the Insecticon in Crossfire was out of it's stasis pod, but it was out of the pod when we first see it. In Armada Airachnid releases the Insecticons from their pods before sending them to attack the Nemisis and destroy Megatron. It could be that prolonged duration in stasis weakens a Transformer and they need to get an energon infusion to get back to full strength. That would likely also explain the difference in the Insecticons strength levels between episodes, by Tunnel Vision the Insecticons have finally had a little energon and their up to full strength making them tougher in battle. -annonymous 5/8/2012 12:48 AM EST
			::::That's cool and all, but it's all speculation. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 01:33, 8 May 2012 (EDT)

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	: Well in Crossfire and Armada they were under Airachnid's mind control, so during Armada her attention was divided and could theoretically make the insecticons less effective. Now that they are independent, their effectiveness goes back to what we saw in Orion Pax Part 3. Of course, if another episode later shows multiple insecticons dropping like flies this theory is scrap.--[[User:Megabob452\|Megabob452]] 13:20, 7 May 2012 (EDT)		: Well in Crossfire and Armada they were under Airachnid's mind control, so during Armada her attention was divided and could theoretically make the insecticons less effective. Now that they are independent, their effectiveness goes back to what we saw in Orion Pax Part 3. Of course, if another episode later shows multiple insecticons dropping like flies this theory is scrap.--[[User:Megabob452\|Megabob452]] 13:20, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
	:: That... is an awesome explanation. So Megatron controls them through loyalty, Airachnid through mind control. Wonder what'll happen if Shockwave ever appears. [[Special:Contributions/222.153.251.249\|222.153.251.249]] 00:11, 8 May 2012 (EDT)		:: That... is an awesome explanation. So Megatron controls them through loyalty, Airachnid through mind control. Wonder what'll happen if Shockwave ever appears. [[Special:Contributions/222.153.251.249\|222.153.251.249]] 00:11, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
			:::Here's another thought, a lack of energon. Skyquake seemed to be in some kind of stasis device when he was introduced. Starscream's energon infusion to both appaerntly open the container and reawaken Skyquake. We have no idea how long the Insecticon in Crossfire was out of it's stasis pod, but it was out of the pod when we first see it. In Armada Airachnid releases the Insecticons from their pods before sending them to attack the Nemisis and destroy Megatron. It could be that prolonged duration in stasis weakens a Transformer and they need to get an energon infusion to get back to full strength. That would likely also explain the difference in the Insecticons strength levels between episodes, by Tunnel Vision the Insecticons have finally had a little energon and their up to full strength making them tougher in battle. -annonymous 5/8/2012 12:48 AM EST