Talk:Twin - Revision history

Carrion at 07:37, 25 March 2012

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	::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)		::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)
	:[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Sunstreaker Sunstreaker's Universe bio]. I'll add the citation. They were probably called fraternal twins because they don't look alike. The MTMTE description sounds like identical, but who knows if a spark splitting is the same as human biology? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:39, 11 November 2009 (EST)		:[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Sunstreaker Sunstreaker's Universe bio]. I'll add the citation. They were probably called fraternal twins because they don't look alike. The MTMTE description sounds like identical, but who knows if a spark splitting is the same as human biology? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:39, 11 November 2009 (EST)

			==Category?==
			With as many as there are now, do twins warrant their own category?--[[User:Carrion\|Carrion]] 03:37, 25 March 2012 (EDT)

Starfield: /* "Fraternal" Twins */

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"Fraternal" Twins

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	:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)		:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)
	::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)		::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)
			:[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Sunstreaker Sunstreaker's Universe bio]. I'll add the citation. They were probably called fraternal twins because they don't look alike. The MTMTE description sounds like identical, but who knows if a spark splitting is the same as human biology? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:39, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Geewunling: /* "Fraternal" Twins */

2009-11-11T17:01:22Z

"Fraternal" Twins

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	From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)		From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
	:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)		:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)
			::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Khajidha at 16:36, 11 November 2009

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	From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)		From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
			:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)

Magaroja: /* "Fraternal" Twins */ new section

2009-06-12T15:10:48Z

"Fraternal" Twins: new section

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	Is there really any reason why this shouldn't be merged with the article [[Relatives]]? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 04:50, 23 May 2009 (EDT)		Is there really any reason why this shouldn't be merged with the article [[Relatives]]? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 04:50, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
	:Twin in the Movieverse is special, almost like a special ability shared by two Transformers. It is unique. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:00, 23 May 2009 (EDT)		:Twin in the Movieverse is special, almost like a special ability shared by two Transformers. It is unique. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:00, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

			== "Fraternal" Twins ==

			From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

Starfield at 16:00, 23 May 2009

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	Is there really any reason why this shouldn't be merged with the article [[Relatives]]? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 04:50, 23 May 2009 (EDT)		Is there really any reason why this shouldn't be merged with the article [[Relatives]]? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 04:50, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
			:Twin in the Movieverse is special, almost like a special ability shared by two Transformers. It is unique. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:00, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Mazenoise at 08:50, 23 May 2009

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	:::Off the top of my head, Jetstorm and Jetfire are referred to specifically as twins in Rise of Safeguard, and Sunstreaker and Sideswipe are referred to as twins in both the Universe and MTMTE character guides (and probably a number of other places too).		:::Off the top of my head, Jetstorm and Jetfire are referred to specifically as twins in Rise of Safeguard, and Sunstreaker and Sideswipe are referred to as twins in both the Universe and MTMTE character guides (and probably a number of other places too).
	:::The exact explanation of twin-ness used in the movie may or may not be unique to it, but the mere concept isn't. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:58, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		:::The exact explanation of twin-ness used in the movie may or may not be unique to it, but the mere concept isn't. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:58, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

			Is there really any reason why this shouldn't be merged with the article [[Relatives]]? -[[User:Mazenoise\|Mazenoise]] 04:50, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Jeysie at 02:58, 23 May 2009

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	:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
	::The concept as it is in the Movie continuity is unique as far as I know. Was "twin" ever used to describe those, or just "brother"? "Twin" wasn't really defined anywhere so I thought it was up for grabs, but my knowledge on such things is far from exhaustive. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:53, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		::The concept as it is in the Movie continuity is unique as far as I know. Was "twin" ever used to describe those, or just "brother"? "Twin" wasn't really defined anywhere so I thought it was up for grabs, but my knowledge on such things is far from exhaustive. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:53, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
			:::Off the top of my head, Jetstorm and Jetfire are referred to specifically as twins in Rise of Safeguard, and Sunstreaker and Sideswipe are referred to as twins in both the Universe and MTMTE character guides (and probably a number of other places too).
			:::The exact explanation of twin-ness used in the movie may or may not be unique to it, but the mere concept isn't. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 22:58, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

Starfield at 02:53, 23 May 2009

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	...should this really be a Movie-only page? Or it should at least be named differently somehow, considering the various other sets of twins in TF. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		...should this really be a Movie-only page? Or it should at least be named differently somehow, considering the various other sets of twins in TF. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
	:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
			::The concept as it is in the Movie continuity is unique as far as I know. Was "twin" ever used to describe those, or just "brother"? "Twin" wasn't really defined anywhere so I thought it was up for grabs, but my knowledge on such things is far from exhaustive. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:53, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

SanityOrMadness at 01:39, 23 May 2009

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	...should this really be a Movie-only page? Or it should at least be named differently somehow, considering the various other sets of twins in TF. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		...should this really be a Movie-only page? Or it should at least be named differently somehow, considering the various other sets of twins in TF. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
			:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

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	:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)		:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)
	::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)		::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)
			:[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Sunstreaker Sunstreaker's Universe bio]. I'll add the citation. They were probably called fraternal twins because they don't look alike. The MTMTE description sounds like identical, but who knows if a spark splitting is the same as human biology? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 12:39, 11 November 2009 (EST)

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	From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)		From the way the text is written, [[Sunstreaker (G1)\|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]] sound more like ''identical'' twins, not ''fraternal'' ones. Unless the book specifically states "fraternal", in which case I'll just shut up and cry in the corner :( [[User:Magaroja\|Magaroja]] 11:10, 12 June 2009 (EDT)
	:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)		:I second your objection. Can somebody verify if the term ''fraternal'' was used, 'cause that write up screams ''identical twins'' to this biology teacher. [[User:Khajidha\|Khajidha]] 11:36, 11 November 2009 (EST)
			::The relevant part seems to be: "[spark splits text], causing several related beings to be created, such as the Autobot brothers Sideswipe and Sunstreaker. [...] Cloning technology differs from normal Transformer creation in that it is specifically designed to create two or more beings that are identitical in some respect, be it robot or altenate mode." [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 12:01, 11 November 2009 (EST)

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	...should this really be a Movie-only page? Or it should at least be named differently somehow, considering the various other sets of twins in TF. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		...should this really be a Movie-only page? Or it should at least be named differently somehow, considering the various other sets of twins in TF. --[[User:Jeysie\|Jeysie]] 20:51, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
	:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)		:Indeed. There's G1 Sunstreaker/Sideswipe, Animated Jetfire & Jetstorm and even Optimus Prime & Ultra Magnus in some continuities. And that's just the obvious ones I can think of at coming-up-for-three-in-the-morning. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
			::The concept as it is in the Movie continuity is unique as far as I know. Was "twin" ever used to describe those, or just "brother"? "Twin" wasn't really defined anywhere so I thought it was up for grabs, but my knowledge on such things is far from exhaustive. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:53, 22 May 2009 (EDT)