Talk:Universe (universe) - Revision history

Abates at 08:18, 3 June 2012

2012-06-03T08:18:19Z

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	Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)		Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
	:That's what "universe" means. The sum total of all that exits. You can't make sense of the Marvel story if change what "universe" means. Anyway, I don't think it matters. Universes in the multiverse are self contained, so that stuff in Universe B doesn't exist as far as Universe A is concerned. But maybe this article needs a continuity note? "The universe is the universe in the Marvel Comics continuity"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:44, 19 June 2010 (EDT)		:That's what "universe" means. The sum total of all that exits. You can't make sense of the Marvel story if change what "universe" means. Anyway, I don't think it matters. Universes in the multiverse are self contained, so that stuff in Universe B doesn't exist as far as Universe A is concerned. But maybe this article needs a continuity note? "The universe is the universe in the Marvel Comics continuity"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:44, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

	== Scope ==		== Scope ==

	This article was originally conceived as the counterpart to the [[old realms]], that is, "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." The article was called "universe" because that's what it was called in the comic. It had the "(universe)" disambiguation for lack of anything better. ("Universe (Marvel comics)" would certainly be confused with [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]].) The title turned out to be unfortunate since the scope of the article expanded to include things unrelated to "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." It turned into something vaguely contradictory. I suggest the article be rescoped back to just "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." Maybe with a different title. The best I can come up with is "Post-void universe." - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:20, 10 August 2011 (EDT)		This article was originally conceived as the counterpart to the [[old realms]], that is, "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." The article was called "universe" because that's what it was called in the comic. It had the "(universe)" disambiguation for lack of anything better. ("Universe (Marvel comics)" would certainly be confused with [[The Transformers Universe\|Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]].) The title turned out to be unfortunate since the scope of the article expanded to include things unrelated to "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." It turned into something vaguely contradictory. I suggest the article be rescoped back to just "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." Maybe with a different title. The best I can come up with is "Post-void universe." - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:20, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

Starfield: /* Scope */ new section

2011-08-11T02:20:29Z

Scope: new section

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	Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)		Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
	:That's what "universe" means. The sum total of all that exits. You can't make sense of the Marvel story if change what "universe" means. Anyway, I don't think it matters. Universes in the multiverse are self contained, so that stuff in Universe B doesn't exist as far as Universe A is concerned. But maybe this article needs a continuity note? "The universe is the universe in the Marvel Comics continuity"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:44, 19 June 2010 (EDT)		:That's what "universe" means. The sum total of all that exits. You can't make sense of the Marvel story if change what "universe" means. Anyway, I don't think it matters. Universes in the multiverse are self contained, so that stuff in Universe B doesn't exist as far as Universe A is concerned. But maybe this article needs a continuity note? "The universe is the universe in the Marvel Comics continuity"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:44, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

			== Scope ==

			This article was originally conceived as the counterpart to the [[old realms]], that is, "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." The article was called "universe" because that's what it was called in the comic. It had the "(universe)" disambiguation for lack of anything better. ("Universe (Marvel comics)" would certainly be confused with [[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)]].) The title turned out to be unfortunate since the scope of the article expanded to include things unrelated to "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." It turned into something vaguely contradictory. I suggest the article be rescoped back to just "the stuff that exploded out of the void from the remnants of the old realms." Maybe with a different title. The best I can come up with is "Post-void universe." - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 22:20, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

Starfield at 15:44, 19 June 2010

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	Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)		Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
			:That's what "universe" means. The sum total of all that exits. You can't make sense of the Marvel story if change what "universe" means. Anyway, I don't think it matters. Universes in the multiverse are self contained, so that stuff in Universe B doesn't exist as far as Universe A is concerned. But maybe this article needs a continuity note? "The universe is the universe in the Marvel Comics continuity"? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:44, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

Item42 at 14:24, 19 June 2010

2010-06-19T14:24:09Z

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	Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not'' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)		Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not''' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)\|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream\|Also...]] [[User:Item42\|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

Item42: In TF,the universe is not "everything there is"

2010-06-19T14:23:38Z

In TF,the universe is not "everything there is"

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Shouldn't this article mention how other continuities treat the origin of the Universe, if they have any. Also, in ''Transformers'', the universe is '''not'' "all there is". That's the [[Multiverse]]. The only fiction summarised in this article is a Marvel comics story, before the [[Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]] stuff that had ''multiple'' universes. Which is how universes work in Transformers. [[universal stream|Also...]] [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)