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		<title>Bluestreak7: /* Image */ dead link</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-24T20:43:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Image: &lt;/span&gt; dead link&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Image==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Image==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have removed &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[:&lt;/del&gt;Image:Vectorprimeinthebeginning.jpg&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/del&gt;from this page due to a complaint about copyright infringgement. It is possible that a reduced version of this might be [[Wikipedia:fair use|fair use]], but no source for the image was cited and no claim for fair use made. I suggest this wiki implement a policy on image uploads like Wikipedia has. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Fair use]]. Currently, there seems no justification made, so I need to respond to the complaint quickly in order to prevent it escalating. [[User:Angela|Angela]] ([[Wikia:User talk:Angela|talk]]) 05:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have removed &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/ins&gt;Image:Vectorprimeinthebeginning.jpg&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot; &lt;/ins&gt;from this page due to a complaint about copyright infringgement. It is possible that a reduced version of this might be [[Wikipedia:fair use|fair use]], but no source for the image was cited and no claim for fair use made. I suggest this wiki implement a policy on image uploads like Wikipedia has. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Fair use]]. Currently, there seems no justification made, so I need to respond to the complaint quickly in order to prevent it escalating. [[User:Angela|Angela]] ([[Wikia:User talk:Angela|talk]]) 05:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Can you tell us where the complaint came from, or is that a no-no?  I think it would be useful to know if the complaint came from some random guy (IE, a vandalism attempt) or from people who actually own this.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Can you tell us where the complaint came from, or is that a no-no?  I think it would be useful to know if the complaint came from some random guy (IE, a vandalism attempt) or from people who actually own this.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Bluestreak7</name></author>
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		<title>Deceptitran: /* Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -  */</title>
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		<updated>2009-03-24T11:32:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Deceptitran fixes v1.0 - wikia_unspam#1 -&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;   &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What if we just scaned the part at the top with the title? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;What if we just scaned the part at the top with the title? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:While this would probably pass &quot;fair use&quot; muster, I would rather see a small thumbnail (that can&#039;t be expanded to a legible page of the comic) used, and think this would be sufficient (as it reflects on the &quot;amount and substiantiality&quot; clause above).  In the text detailing how it is fair use, you might also note that this is for the purpose of commentary (&quot;purpose and character of use&quot;).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;div id=&quot;wikia-credits&quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:While this would probably pass &quot;fair use&quot; muster, I would rather see a small thumbnail (that can&#039;t be expanded to a legible page of the comic) used, and think this would be sufficient (as it reflects on the &quot;amount and substiantiality&quot; clause above).  In the text detailing how it is fair use, you might also note that this is for the purpose of commentary (&quot;purpose and character of use&quot;).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ItsWalky: restoring.  Why was this deleted?</title>
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		<updated>2008-01-25T03:56:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;restoring.  Why was this deleted?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Big Red?  What about Pulsar? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:01, 31 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guy from ATSCAL isn&amp;#039;t red and isn&amp;#039;t necessarily Pulsar.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was Octopunch who shot Grimlock in the original Marvel book - did they change that? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:14, 31 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Nope.  It was just 4am.  Fixed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
** Walky, you doofus, you changed it to Stranglehold. -[[User:LV|LV]] 17:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&amp;#039;d still disagree that Big Red deserves his own entry undaer a nickname though.  A sub-section under Pulsar noting he may be a seperate character, yes.  (You can feel free to disagree.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:14, 31 March 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree &amp;quot;Big Red&amp;quot; does deserve his own page, &amp;#039;cuz Dan Khanna drew the big red guy who appeared in #1, not Pulsar.  Pulsar&amp;#039;s a different color.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:22, 5 April 2006 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Image==&lt;br /&gt;
I have removed [[:Image:Vectorprimeinthebeginning.jpg]] from this page due to a complaint about copyright infringgement. It is possible that a reduced version of this might be [[Wikipedia:fair use|fair use]], but no source for the image was cited and no claim for fair use made. I suggest this wiki implement a policy on image uploads like Wikipedia has. See [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Fair use]]. Currently, there seems no justification made, so I need to respond to the complaint quickly in order to prevent it escalating. [[User:Angela|Angela]] ([[Wikia:User talk:Angela|talk]]) 05:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Can you tell us where the complaint came from, or is that a no-no?  I think it would be useful to know if the complaint came from some random guy (IE, a vandalism attempt) or from people who actually own this.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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If I had to place bets, probably Fun Publications. Which makes sense, and, well, is within their right. Jus&amp;#039; reduce the image size down to where the text is totally undreadable, I think, and that should suffice... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was from a company that claims the image was there property, not just a random internet user. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 06:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::All righty, just making sure.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&amp;#039;s a fair point, most everything else here clearly falls udner fair use (individual pannels/stills for context.) Because the FP stuff lacks a cover, exerptign an image like that is a much bigger... thing.&lt;br /&gt;
:::How should we be amrkign these things as fair sue?  Is there a template tag we can just add to tne end of an image description to make a claim of fair use pop up? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Have a look at [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Fair_use#Tagging_fair_use_image_files]] to find an appropriate tag (or more than one) which could be copied to this wiki. The important thing is to provide a detailed rationale as to why each image qualifies as fair use. Wikipedia says:&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::In general four factors must be considered:&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::#the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;&lt;br /&gt;
:::::#the nature of the copyrighted work;&lt;br /&gt;
:::::#the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and&lt;br /&gt;
:::::#the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[User:Angela|Angela]] ([[Wikia:User talk:Angela|talk]]) 16:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What if we just scaned the part at the top with the title? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:While this would probably pass &amp;quot;fair use&amp;quot; muster, I would rather see a small thumbnail (that can&amp;#039;t be expanded to a legible page of the comic) used, and think this would be sufficient (as it reflects on the &amp;quot;amount and substiantiality&amp;quot; clause above).  In the text detailing how it is fair use, you might also note that this is for the purpose of commentary (&amp;quot;purpose and character of use&amp;quot;).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:23, 6 April 2006 (UTC)&amp;lt;div id=&amp;quot;wikia-credits&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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