Talk:Vivisector - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AVivisector Talk:Vivisector - Revision history 2026-09-13T05:26:23Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1411549&oldid=prev Saix at 18:32, 16 May 2020 2020-05-16T18:32:16Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:32, 16 May 2020</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:These are two entirely separate characters. The redirect should be deleted. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:26, 21 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:These are two entirely separate characters. The redirect should be deleted. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:26, 21 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If the character concept for both is "black Tracks as a separate (Decepticon) character", why does my it matter that they were created independently of each other? Timelines Ironfist and IDW Ironfist are completely different, but still based on the same idea. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 04:05, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::If the character concept for both is "black Tracks as a separate (Decepticon) character", why does my it matter that they were created independently of each other? Timelines Ironfist and IDW Ironfist are completely different, but still based on the same idea. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 04:05, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::There was already an Ironfist character and name to be added to, so two personalities converged onto one pre-existing page. But there was never a "Black Decepticon Tracks" before, and these two even have different names - we'd be creating an Ironfist situation ''without'' one of the chief reasons behind why the Ironfist situation happened. We didn't add Black Starscream to Skywarp's page. We certainly didn't page-merge newly-created Animated Bumblebee or Throttlebot redeco background characters with different names that might have looked alike. We didn't even put <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[ </del>Bluestreak (Masterpiece)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </del>on the Bluestreak page even though they DO have the same name and look - due to a storyline reason. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:38, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::There was already an Ironfist character and name to be added to, so two personalities converged onto one pre-existing page. But there was never a "Black Decepticon Tracks" before, and these two even have different names - we'd be creating an Ironfist situation ''without'' one of the chief reasons behind why the Ironfist situation happened. We didn't add Black Starscream to Skywarp's page. We certainly didn't page-merge newly-created Animated Bumblebee or Throttlebot redeco background characters with different names that might have looked alike. We didn't even put <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> </ins>Bluestreak (Masterpiece) on the Bluestreak page even though they DO have the same name and look - due to a storyline reason. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:38, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Except that Bluestreak was explicitly a separate character from Streak in his bio, since it described him as looking like Streak. And I'm... not really sure what you're talking about with the Animated Bumblebee redecos? Plus, characters have had different names in different countries forever. To me, this seems like a similar situation to the Dreamwave Ultra Magnus and Perceptor clones going on the Delta Magnus and Magnificus pages; it's the same base concept, so in lieu of huge irreconcilable contradictions, they can be considered the same character. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 09:37, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Except that Bluestreak was explicitly a separate character from Streak in his bio, since it described him as looking like Streak. And I'm... not really sure what you're talking about with the Animated Bumblebee redecos? Plus, characters have had different names in different countries forever. To me, this seems like a similar situation to the Dreamwave Ultra Magnus and Perceptor clones going on the Delta Magnus and Magnificus pages; it's the same base concept, so in lieu of huge irreconcilable contradictions, they can be considered the same character. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 09:37, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Aren't Vivisector and Loud Pedal also explicitly separate characters, though, based on the note in the article? --[[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 13:18, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Aren't Vivisector and Loud Pedal also explicitly separate characters, though, based on the note in the article? --[[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 13:18, 22 May 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Saix https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1240492&oldid=prev Dark T Zeratul: /* Edits */ 2018-02-14T22:37:39Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Edits</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:37, 14 February 2018</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l31">Line 31:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 31:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Wait, so...WHY are Loudpedal and Vivisector on different pages from each other? It looks like the nail in the coffin of the original discussion was that musician Loudpedal was given a different personality than science officer Vivisector. But then Fun Pub changed Vivisector's name to Loudpedal in ''The Toxic Transformer'', so the science officer guy is on Loudpedal's page anyway. So it's not a Dauros/Skullgrin thing anymore, it's a Marvel/Sunbow Blaster thing. And ''Inexorable March'' made both names interchangeable for the guy. I'd suggest either merging the pages entirely, or putting the ''Uprising'' stuff on Loudpedal's page and leaving Vivisector (IDW) separate, like [[Roulette (Universe)]] and [[Roulette (G1)]]. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:25, 14 February 2018 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Wait, so...WHY are Loudpedal and Vivisector on different pages from each other? It looks like the nail in the coffin of the original discussion was that musician Loudpedal was given a different personality than science officer Vivisector. But then Fun Pub changed Vivisector's name to Loudpedal in ''The Toxic Transformer'', so the science officer guy is on Loudpedal's page anyway. So it's not a Dauros/Skullgrin thing anymore, it's a Marvel/Sunbow Blaster thing. And ''Inexorable March'' made both names interchangeable for the guy. I'd suggest either merging the pages entirely, or putting the ''Uprising'' stuff on Loudpedal's page and leaving Vivisector (IDW) separate, like [[Roulette (Universe)]] and [[Roulette (G1)]]. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:25, 14 February 2018 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Since Fun Pub changed <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Viisector </del>to Loudpedal, I'm now of the opinion that they should, in fact, be merged into one page (with appropriate notes regarding these shenanigans). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 17:37, 14 February 2018 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Since Fun Pub changed <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Vivisector </ins>to Loudpedal, I'm now of the opinion that they should, in fact, be merged into one page (with appropriate notes regarding these shenanigans). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 17:37, 14 February 2018 (EST)</div></td></tr> </table>

Dark T Zeratul https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1240491&oldid=prev Dark T Zeratul: /* Edits */ 2018-02-14T22:37:32Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Edits</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:37, 14 February 2018</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l31">Line 31:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 31:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Wait, so...WHY are Loudpedal and Vivisector on different pages from each other? It looks like the nail in the coffin of the original discussion was that musician Loudpedal was given a different personality than science officer Vivisector. But then Fun Pub changed Vivisector's name to Loudpedal in ''The Toxic Transformer'', so the science officer guy is on Loudpedal's page anyway. So it's not a Dauros/Skullgrin thing anymore, it's a Marvel/Sunbow Blaster thing. And ''Inexorable March'' made both names interchangeable for the guy. I'd suggest either merging the pages entirely, or putting the ''Uprising'' stuff on Loudpedal's page and leaving Vivisector (IDW) separate, like [[Roulette (Universe)]] and [[Roulette (G1)]]. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:25, 14 February 2018 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Wait, so...WHY are Loudpedal and Vivisector on different pages from each other? It looks like the nail in the coffin of the original discussion was that musician Loudpedal was given a different personality than science officer Vivisector. But then Fun Pub changed Vivisector's name to Loudpedal in ''The Toxic Transformer'', so the science officer guy is on Loudpedal's page anyway. So it's not a Dauros/Skullgrin thing anymore, it's a Marvel/Sunbow Blaster thing. And ''Inexorable March'' made both names interchangeable for the guy. I'd suggest either merging the pages entirely, or putting the ''Uprising'' stuff on Loudpedal's page and leaving Vivisector (IDW) separate, like [[Roulette (Universe)]] and [[Roulette (G1)]]. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:25, 14 February 2018 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Since Fun Pub changed Viisector to Loudpedal, I'm now of the opinion that they should, in fact, be merged into one page (with appropriate notes regarding these shenanigans). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 17:37, 14 February 2018 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Dark T Zeratul https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1240321&oldid=prev Xaaron: /* Edits */ 2018-02-14T14:25:45Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Edits</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:25, 14 February 2018</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l29">Line 29:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 29:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, [[The Toxic Transformer]] has been edited to change the character's name to Loud Pedal. I guess we move all the Masters and Mayhem stuff over to there and leave the Wreckers stuff here, and add a note saying the name was changed? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:07, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, [[The Toxic Transformer]] has been edited to change the character's name to Loud Pedal. I guess we move all the Masters and Mayhem stuff over to there and leave the Wreckers stuff here, and add a note saying the name was changed? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:07, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yup, pretty much. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:09, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Yup, pretty much. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:09, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Wait, so...WHY are Loudpedal and Vivisector on different pages from each other? It looks like the nail in the coffin of the original discussion was that musician Loudpedal was given a different personality than science officer Vivisector. But then Fun Pub changed Vivisector's name to Loudpedal in ''The Toxic Transformer'', so the science officer guy is on Loudpedal's page anyway. So it's not a Dauros/Skullgrin thing anymore, it's a Marvel/Sunbow Blaster thing. And ''Inexorable March'' made both names interchangeable for the guy. I'd suggest either merging the pages entirely, or putting the ''Uprising'' stuff on Loudpedal's page and leaving Vivisector (IDW) separate, like [[Roulette (Universe)]] and [[Roulette (G1)]]. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:25, 14 February 2018 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Xaaron https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1125493&oldid=prev Jalaguy: /* Edits */ 2016-09-03T14:09:45Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Edits</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:09, 3 September 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l28">Line 28:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 28:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Edits==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Edits==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, [[The Toxic Transformer]] has been edited to change the character's name to Loud Pedal. I guess we move all the Masters and Mayhem stuff over to there and leave the Wreckers stuff here, and add a note saying the name was changed? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:07, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, [[The Toxic Transformer]] has been edited to change the character's name to Loud Pedal. I guess we move all the Masters and Mayhem stuff over to there and leave the Wreckers stuff here, and add a note saying the name was changed? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:07, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Yup, pretty much. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:09, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Jalaguy https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1125492&oldid=prev Giggidy at 14:07, 3 September 2016 2016-09-03T14:07:02Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:07, 3 September 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l25">Line 25:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 25:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Overlord was explicitly a relocalized name for the same character. Loudpedal and Visiector are pretty explicitly different character concepts that were conceived independently of each other. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:59, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Overlord was explicitly a relocalized name for the same character. Loudpedal and Visiector are pretty explicitly different character concepts that were conceived independently of each other. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:59, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Those other Overlords are also explicitly based on the first Overlord character. Loud Pedal/Vivisector are NOT reincarnations of a previous TF character, they are wholly independently-created independent characters based on a non-TF toy that happened by coincidence. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:07, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Those other Overlords are also explicitly based on the first Overlord character. Loud Pedal/Vivisector are NOT reincarnations of a previous TF character, they are wholly independently-created independent characters based on a non-TF toy that happened by coincidence. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:07, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==Edits==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">So, [[The Toxic Transformer]] has been edited to change the character's name to Loud Pedal. I guess we move all the Masters and Mayhem stuff over to there and leave the Wreckers stuff here, and add a note saying the name was changed? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 10:07, 3 September 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Giggidy https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1102834&oldid=prev M Sipher at 20:07, 18 June 2016 2016-06-18T20:07:01Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:07, 18 June 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l24">Line 24:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 24:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::The tfwiki lumps together all the incarnations of G1 Overlord / Gigatron despite some appearances having a different name, personality and backstory. Not so different to Loudpedal / Vivisector. [[User:Bass X0|Bass X0]] ([[User talk:Bass X0|talk]]) 18:47, 17 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::The tfwiki lumps together all the incarnations of G1 Overlord / Gigatron despite some appearances having a different name, personality and backstory. Not so different to Loudpedal / Vivisector. [[User:Bass X0|Bass X0]] ([[User talk:Bass X0|talk]]) 18:47, 17 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Overlord was explicitly a relocalized name for the same character. Loudpedal and Visiector are pretty explicitly different character concepts that were conceived independently of each other. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:59, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Overlord was explicitly a relocalized name for the same character. Loudpedal and Visiector are pretty explicitly different character concepts that were conceived independently of each other. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:59, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Those other Overlords are also explicitly based on the first Overlord character. Loud Pedal/Vivisector are NOT reincarnations of a previous TF character, they are wholly independently-created independent characters based on a non-TF toy that happened by coincidence. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:07, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

M Sipher https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1102831&oldid=prev Dark T Zeratul at 19:59, 18 June 2016 2016-06-18T19:59:24Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 19:59, 18 June 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l23">Line 23:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 23:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Are there no votes to the contrary? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:01, 16 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Are there no votes to the contrary? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:01, 16 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::The tfwiki lumps together all the incarnations of G1 Overlord / Gigatron despite some appearances having a different name, personality and backstory. Not so different to Loudpedal / Vivisector. [[User:Bass X0|Bass X0]] ([[User talk:Bass X0|talk]]) 18:47, 17 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::The tfwiki lumps together all the incarnations of G1 Overlord / Gigatron despite some appearances having a different name, personality and backstory. Not so different to Loudpedal / Vivisector. [[User:Bass X0|Bass X0]] ([[User talk:Bass X0|talk]]) 18:47, 17 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Overlord was explicitly a relocalized name for the same character. Loudpedal and Visiector are pretty explicitly different character concepts that were conceived independently of each other. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:59, 18 June 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Dark T Zeratul https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1102676&oldid=prev Bass X0 at 22:47, 17 June 2016 2016-06-17T22:47:51Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:47, 17 June 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Loud Pedal has a different name and personality, and should be split off from Vivisector just as surely as Dauros was from Skullgrin. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:31, 14 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Loud Pedal has a different name and personality, and should be split off from Vivisector just as surely as Dauros was from Skullgrin. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:31, 14 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Are there no votes to the contrary? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:01, 16 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Are there no votes to the contrary? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:01, 16 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::The tfwiki lumps together all the incarnations of G1 Overlord / Gigatron despite some appearances having a different name, personality and backstory. Not so different to Loudpedal / Vivisector. [[User:Bass X0|Bass X0]] ([[User talk:Bass X0|talk]]) 18:47, 17 June 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Bass X0 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Vivisector&diff=1102047&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000 at 17:01, 16 June 2016 2016-06-16T17:01:20Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:01, 16 June 2016</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>BEHOLD: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1067279-masterpiece-loud-pedal-black-tracks-tokyo-toy-show-exclusive-49.html#post13689413</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>BEHOLD: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/1067279-masterpiece-loud-pedal-black-tracks-tokyo-toy-show-exclusive-49.html#post13689413</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Loud Pedal has a different name and personality, and should be split off from Vivisector just as surely as Dauros was from Skullgrin. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:31, 14 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Loud Pedal has a different name and personality, and should be split off from Vivisector just as surely as Dauros was from Skullgrin. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:31, 14 June 2016 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Are there no votes to the contrary? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:01, 16 June 2016 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000