Talk:War Dawn (episode) - Revision history

Dark T Zeratul: /* Macross Valkyrie robot */

2025-09-20T23:58:34Z

Macross Valkyrie robot

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	::Yeah, I'd say we are on firm ground to acknowledge that is a Valk. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 09:45, 20 September 2025 (EDT)		::Yeah, I'd say we are on firm ground to acknowledge that is a Valk. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 09:45, 20 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::I genuinely don't see it. It doesn't look like a Valk to me outside of maybe the head. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 10:08, 20 September 2025 (EDT)		:::I genuinely don't see it. It doesn't look like a Valk to me outside of maybe the head. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 10:08, 20 September 2025 (EDT)
			::::And the arms, and the legs. The body's a bit fuzzier, but with all the rest I'd buy it. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 19:58, 20 September 2025 (EDT)

BluJayWarrior: /* Macross Valkyrie robot */ new section, porting over from user's talk page since it's relevant to the episode

2025-09-20T23:12:22Z

Macross Valkyrie robot: new section, porting over from user's talk page since it's relevant to the episode

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	''"While all episodes of The Transformers clock in at about 22:45 with the opening, end credits, and commercial bumpers... Rhino's Season 2, Part 2 release featured a running time of 22:29, as the second act was played as filmed, and without the slowdown. Shout! Factory's recent release, however, corrects only the pitch of the audio, as the episode still runs at 22:29.''"<br>		''"While all episodes of The Transformers clock in at about 22:45 with the opening, end credits, and commercial bumpers... Rhino's Season 2, Part 2 release featured a running time of 22:29, as the second act was played as filmed, and without the slowdown. Shout! Factory's recent release, however, corrects only the pitch of the audio, as the episode still runs at 22:29.''"<br>
	"Corrects" doesn't quite apply here either, but what happened to the 2nd act was a time-stretch edit, and I don't necessarily like the result, but since it was broadcast that way, that ought to be preserved. Both DVD releases have it wrong, and so does the Hasbro Pulse channel, but what happened in that youtube release was that the audio was pitched to match the broadcast, but then heavily and poorly edited to match the "film rate" running time of the Rhino release. What a mess. I don't own the Shout! release, so my question is: Can anyone who does confirm that the audio is edited the exact same way? I suspect that the youtube audio was taken from that, and so I can edit accordingly upon confirmation.[[User:JoseBxR\|JoseBxR]] ([[User talk:JoseBxR\|talk]]) 21:33, 9 August 2024 (EDT)		"Corrects" doesn't quite apply here either, but what happened to the 2nd act was a time-stretch edit, and I don't necessarily like the result, but since it was broadcast that way, that ought to be preserved. Both DVD releases have it wrong, and so does the Hasbro Pulse channel, but what happened in that youtube release was that the audio was pitched to match the broadcast, but then heavily and poorly edited to match the "film rate" running time of the Rhino release. What a mess. I don't own the Shout! release, so my question is: Can anyone who does confirm that the audio is edited the exact same way? I suspect that the youtube audio was taken from that, and so I can edit accordingly upon confirmation.[[User:JoseBxR\|JoseBxR]] ([[User talk:JoseBxR\|talk]]) 21:33, 9 August 2024 (EDT)

			==Macross Valkyrie robot==
			There's no way that the bot in War Dawn is the VF-1J. Not only does it not look like it, but they [[Jetfire (G1)#Why "Skyfire"?\|literally got in trouble a season prior]] for using a modified Macross design in the show. There's no reason they would risk further issues by doing it again, especially as an easter egg. Please let this go and move on. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 23:33, 19 September 2025 (EDT)
			:Looking into it, I'm inclined to agree with Kingzergxes that the robot is based on a VF-1J (''NOT'' Jetfire's VF-1'''S''') Regardless whether or not the studio ''should'' have drawn it, it bares numerous design cues: feet shape, circles near the ankles and knees, elbow spikes, stripes below the knees and on the forearms, the four chest sections, elongated face with two antennae ears, and even that trapezoid on his shoulder. [https://files.catbox.moe/a6xa7d.jpg Comparison Pic]. Heck, this was apparently noted by TFwiki's own [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/689349803931791360 twitter page] years ago. —[[User:BluJayWarrior\|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior\|talk]]) 02:52, 20 September 2025 (EDT)
			::Yeah, I'd say we are on firm ground to acknowledge that is a Valk. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 09:45, 20 September 2025 (EDT)
			:::I genuinely don't see it. It doesn't look like a Valk to me outside of maybe the head. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 10:08, 20 September 2025 (EDT)

JoseBxR: Created page with "==About The Second Act== Now that I've watched the Japanese dub, I have a dilemma. It's a personal one regarding collecting this series in digital form, but I won't bore you. ..."

2024-08-10T01:33:17Z

Created page with "==About The Second Act== Now that I've watched the Japanese dub, I have a dilemma. It's a personal one regarding collecting this series in digital form, but I won't bore you. ..."

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==About The Second Act==
Now that I've watched the Japanese dub, I have a dilemma. It's a personal one regarding collecting this series in digital form, but I won't bore you. It does lead into this clarification, but I have a question before editing.<br>
''"Kid Rhino corrected (the pitch-shifted audio) when they released the episode on DVD, but unfortunately, when Shout! Factory went back to the broadcast masters for their original audio tracks, this error was re-introduced to their DVD of the episode. The uncorrected version was also uploaded to YouTube by Hasbro in 2021; unusually, since all the other episodes uploaded were the Rhino versions."''<br>
This couldn't quite be characterized as an "error" that was "corrected". I'll quote from this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt25zRJbN4o), where the description shows a more accurate explanation:<br>
''"While all episodes of The Transformers clock in at about 22:45 with the opening, end credits, and commercial bumpers... Rhino's Season 2, Part 2 release featured a running time of 22:29, as the second act was played as filmed, and without the slowdown. Shout! Factory's recent release, however, corrects only the pitch of the audio, as the episode still runs at 22:29.''"<br>
"Corrects" doesn't quite apply here either, but what happened to the 2nd act was a time-stretch edit, and I don't necessarily like the result, but since it was broadcast that way, that ought to be preserved. Both DVD releases have it wrong, and so does the Hasbro Pulse channel, but what happened in that youtube release was that the audio was pitched to match the broadcast, but then heavily and poorly edited to match the "film rate" running time of the Rhino release. What a mess. I don't own the Shout! release, so my question is: Can anyone who does confirm that the audio is edited the exact same way? I suspect that the youtube audio was taken from that, and so I can edit accordingly upon confirmation.[[User:JoseBxR|JoseBxR]] ([[User talk:JoseBxR|talk]]) 21:33, 9 August 2024 (EDT)

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	::Yeah, I'd say we are on firm ground to acknowledge that is a Valk. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 09:45, 20 September 2025 (EDT)		::Yeah, I'd say we are on firm ground to acknowledge that is a Valk. --[[User:Thylacine 2000\|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000\|talk]]) 09:45, 20 September 2025 (EDT)
	:::I genuinely don't see it. It doesn't look like a Valk to me outside of maybe the head. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 10:08, 20 September 2025 (EDT)		:::I genuinely don't see it. It doesn't look like a Valk to me outside of maybe the head. -- [[User:Cyberlink420\|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420\|talk]]) 10:08, 20 September 2025 (EDT)
			::::And the arms, and the legs. The body's a bit fuzzier, but with all the rest I'd buy it. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 19:58, 20 September 2025 (EDT)