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Paladin Denn: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T22:51:15Z

Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)
			:::::Looking through the list of unreleased toys, I've found something similar. The Autobot Racers 2 Pack that was set to release at target contained unmodified versions or previous Leadfoot and Topspin toys, yet we consider it a cancelled toy even though the figures were released separately. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:51, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Paladin Denn at 22:44, 4 January 2022

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	::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022		::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022
	:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	:::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Paladin Denn: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T22:43:56Z

Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022		::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022
	:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)
			:::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Saix: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T22:41:10Z

Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022		::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022
	:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)
			::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Dark T Zeratul: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

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Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022		::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022
			:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Paladin Denn: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T21:46:03Z

Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]		Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]
	:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed.		::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed. - [[User:Paladin Denn]] 3:45 PM, 4 January 2022

Paladin Denn: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T21:44:56Z

Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]		Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]
	:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)
			::I would argue we should make note of it being an explicitly canceled toy in the toys section as well. Precedent exists on this site for situations where a line has ended and a figure that was listed did not appear at all. This happened with many Beast Machine figures we still know nothing about, and the Horrorcons who only showed up on Ebay long after they were listed.

Fritz: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

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	Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]		Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]
			:This is already mentioned in the notes section of the article, except for the "canceled due to the SS86 figure" part probably because that leans a little too much to the speculative side. --[[User:Fritz\|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz\|talk]]) 12:32, 4 January 2022 (EST)

Paladin Denn: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T06:58:04Z

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	I just remembered that we were supposedly getting an ER Starscream Refresh in Wave 4 to go with Tigatron. There exists a listing for it in the Target database as shown in this TFW2005 article: https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/17/new-transformers-kingdom-studio-series-1986-masterpiece-listings-from-target-417185		I just remembered that we were supposedly getting an ER Starscream Refresh in Wave 4 to go with Tigatron. There exists a listing for it in the Target database as shown in this TFW2005 article: https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/17/new-transformers-kingdom-studio-series-1986-masterpiece-listings-from-target-417185

	Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[Paladin Denn]]		Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[user:Paladin Denn]]

Paladin Denn: /* Canceled ER Starscream Refresh? */

2022-01-04T06:57:43Z

Canceled ER Starscream Refresh?

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	I just remembered that we were supposedly getting an ER Starscream Refresh in Wave 4 to go with Tigatron. There exists a listing for it in the Target database as shown in this TFW2005 article: https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/17/new-transformers-kingdom-studio-series-1986-masterpiece-listings-from-target-417185		I just remembered that we were supposedly getting an ER Starscream Refresh in Wave 4 to go with Tigatron. There exists a listing for it in the Target database as shown in this TFW2005 article: https://news.tfw2005.com/2020/08/17/new-transformers-kingdom-studio-series-1986-masterpiece-listings-from-target-417185

	Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up.		Reputable leakers had also said in the past that ER Starscream was supposed to be in Kingdom, but his figure was canceled due to the upcoming SS86 leader figure. I'm not sure how we deal with listings but this reminds me of the cancelled wave six Titan Masters that failed to show up. - [[Paladin Denn]]

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	:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)		:::This isn't a canceled figure, though, just a canceled refresh of a released figure from an earlier wave. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul\|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul\|talk]]) 17:06, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It was still a planned release of a figure that got canceled fairly late into the production of the line. This would be no different then a reissue being cancelled, which I'm sure I can find an example of on this wiki. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:43, 4 January 2022 (EST)
			:::::Looking through the list of unreleased toys, I've found something similar. The Autobot Racers 2 Pack that was set to release at target contained unmodified versions or previous Leadfoot and Topspin toys, yet we consider it a cancelled toy even though the figures were released separately. [[User:Paladin Denn\|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn\|talk]]) 17:51, 4 January 2022 (EST)
	::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)		::::It's still notable, especially since it creates a gap in the numbering. Leaks are fine to mention long after the fact. [[User:Saix\|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix\|talk]]) 17:41, 4 January 2022 (EST)