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Re: "You are never black."

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	You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
	:I would have to question the phrase, as it is only applicable if every single one of these second-person stories contains a picture and/or description of "You" that the designates the racial or ethnic background of the "character" as something other than black. Do they ''all'' have white kids on the cover? What about the S.T.A.R.S. stuff that's included here? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		:I would have to question the phrase, as it is only applicable if every single one of these second-person stories contains a picture and/or description of "You" that the designates the racial or ethnic background of the "character" as something other than black. Do they ''all'' have white kids on the cover? What about the S.T.A.R.S. stuff that's included here? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
	::The S.T.A.R.S. stuff was generally addressed to 'you' with no "reader avatar" pictured. [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]]/[[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]] showed pictures... but of [[Johnny]], a specific boy instead of 'you.'		::The S.T.A.R.S. stuff was generally addressed to 'you' with no "reader avatar" pictured. [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]]/[[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]] showed pictures... but of [[Johnny (G1)\|Johnny]], a specific boy instead of 'you.'
	::IIRC, the US multipath adventures were not told from a human POV, just the UK Young Corgi ones. Those guys, when pictured, did indeed tend to be white... but ''Britain''.		::IIRC, the US multipath adventures were not told from a human POV, just the UK Young Corgi ones. Those guys, when pictured, did indeed tend to be white... but ''Britain''.
	::The [[Iron-on patch]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Lok9CBfpg commercial] featured "Spike and Friends" which included a black guy. (Notable because the animated teens were grown-up versions of the kids in the commercial-- something no other TF toy commercial ever did AFAIK.) While the Iron-on patch promotion was not '''explicitly''' part of the S.T.A.R.S. promotion, the overall setup-- 3 humans approaching a remote non-Ark Autobot outpost with badges so that the Autobots can identify their allies-- is ''very'' evocative of the S.T.A.R.S. promo stories, particularly [[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]], where Johnny, having summoned the Autobots with a report of suspicious activity, waits for an inbound strike force to act as a local guide.		::The [[Iron-on patch]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Lok9CBfpg commercial] featured "Spike and Friends" which included a black guy. (Notable because the animated teens were grown-up versions of the kids in the commercial-- something no other TF toy commercial ever did AFAIK.) While the Iron-on patch promotion was not '''explicitly''' part of the S.T.A.R.S. promotion, the overall setup-- 3 humans approaching a remote non-Ark Autobot outpost with badges so that the Autobots can identify their allies-- is ''very'' evocative of the S.T.A.R.S. promo stories, particularly [[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]], where Johnny, having summoned the Autobots with a report of suspicious activity, waits for an inbound strike force to act as a local guide.

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2010-11-19T22:11:26Z

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	== Simpsons ==		== Simpsons ==

	The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.		The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph. {{unsigned\|76.234.128.227\|16:44, 19 November 2010 (EST)}}
	:No it shouldn't, because it didn't happen in official Transformers media. --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 16:50, 19 November 2010 (EST)		:No it shouldn't, because it didn't happen in official Transformers media. --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 16:50, 19 November 2010 (EST)
	::We have enough on our hands just recording Transformers-exclusive stuff, Anonymous. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 17:10, 19 November 2010 (EST)		::We have enough on our hands just recording Transformers-exclusive stuff, Anonymous. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 17:10, 19 November 2010 (EST)

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Simpsons

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	The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.		The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.
	:No it shouldn't, because it didn't happen in official Transformers media. --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 16:50, 19 November 2010 (EST)		:No it shouldn't, because it didn't happen in official Transformers media. --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 16:50, 19 November 2010 (EST)
			::We have enough on our hands just recording Transformers-exclusive stuff, Anonymous. [[User:Interrobang\|—Interrobang]] 17:10, 19 November 2010 (EST)

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Simpsons

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	The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.		The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.
			:No it shouldn't, because it didn't happen in official Transformers media. --[[User:NCZ\|NCZ]] 16:50, 19 November 2010 (EST)

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Simpsons: new section

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	::Between the kids=teens and the general S.T.A.R.S.iness of the whole patch setup, I think those kids, one of whom is black, qualify as a fantasy-roleplay 'you' for the purposes of this article.		::Between the kids=teens and the general S.T.A.R.S.iness of the whole patch setup, I think those kids, one of whom is black, qualify as a fantasy-roleplay 'you' for the purposes of this article.
	::So while you are ''seldom'' black, ''never'' is inaccurate. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 19:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		::So while you are ''seldom'' black, ''never'' is inaccurate. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 19:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

			== Simpsons ==

			The Transclownomorphs segment should get a trivia entry, as they refer to you being the human friend of the transforming clowns that morph.

Andrusi at 19:03, 6 July 2010

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	::Thanks! "You" was redlinked on some of the multipath adventure stories, so that's where I got the idea. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:37, 18 May 2010 (EDT)		::Thanks! "You" was redlinked on some of the multipath adventure stories, so that's where I got the idea. - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 11:37, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::Damn you Starfield, I've been planning this page (by adding the redlinks) for weeks. Now I'm drunk I don't have the wherewithal to augment it, but I will be back. --[[User:Emvee\|Emvee]] 18:58, 18 May 2010 (EDT)		:::Damn you Starfield, I've been planning this page (by adding the redlinks) for weeks. Now I'm drunk I don't have the wherewithal to augment it, but I will be back. --[[User:Emvee\|Emvee]] 18:58, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
			I am incredibly amused that You actually have an established faction. --[[User:Andrusi\|Andrusi]] 15:03, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

	== Noname? ==		== Noname? ==

Derik: /* Re: "You are never black." */

2010-05-21T23:06:03Z

Re: "You are never black."

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	::The S.T.A.R.S. stuff was generally addressed to 'you' with no "reader avatar" pictured. [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]]/[[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]] showed pictures... but of [[Johnny]], a specific boy instead of 'you.'		::The S.T.A.R.S. stuff was generally addressed to 'you' with no "reader avatar" pictured. [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]]/[[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]] showed pictures... but of [[Johnny]], a specific boy instead of 'you.'
	::IIRC, the US multipath adventures were not told from a human POV, just the UK Young Corgi ones. Those guys, when pictured, did indeed tend to be white... but ''Britain''.		::IIRC, the US multipath adventures were not told from a human POV, just the UK Young Corgi ones. Those guys, when pictured, did indeed tend to be white... but ''Britain''.
	::The [[Iron-on patch]] commercial featured "Spike and Friends" which included a black guy. (Notable because the animated teens were grown-up versions of the kids in the commercial-- something no other TF toy commercial ever did AFAIK.) While the Iron-on patch promotion was not '''explicitly''' part of the S.T.A.R.S. promotion, the overall setup-- 3 humans approaching a remote non-Ark Autobot outpost with badges so that the Autobots can identify their allies-- is ''very'' evocative of the S.T.A.R.S. promo stories, particularly [[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]], where Johnny, having summoned the Autobots with a report of suspicious activity, waits for an inbound strike force to act as a local guide.		::The [[Iron-on patch]] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Lok9CBfpg commercial] featured "Spike and Friends" which included a black guy. (Notable because the animated teens were grown-up versions of the kids in the commercial-- something no other TF toy commercial ever did AFAIK.) While the Iron-on patch promotion was not '''explicitly''' part of the S.T.A.R.S. promotion, the overall setup-- 3 humans approaching a remote non-Ark Autobot outpost with badges so that the Autobots can identify their allies-- is ''very'' evocative of the S.T.A.R.S. promo stories, particularly [[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]], where Johnny, having summoned the Autobots with a report of suspicious activity, waits for an inbound strike force to act as a local guide.
	::Between the kids=teens and the general S.T.A.R.S.iness of the whole patch setup, I think those kids, one of whom is black, qualify as a fantasy-roleplay 'you' for the purposes of this article.		::Between the kids=teens and the general S.T.A.R.S.iness of the whole patch setup, I think those kids, one of whom is black, qualify as a fantasy-roleplay 'you' for the purposes of this article.
	::So while you are ''seldom'' black, ''never'' is inaccurate. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 19:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		::So while you are ''seldom'' black, ''never'' is inaccurate. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 19:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

Derik: /* Re: "You are never black." */

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Re: "You are never black."

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	You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
	:I would have to question the phrase, as it is only applicable if every single one of these second-person stories contains a picture and/or description of "You" that the designates the racial or ethnic background of the "character" as something other than black. Do they ''all'' have white kids on the cover? What about the S.T.A.R.S. stuff that's included here? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		:I would have to question the phrase, as it is only applicable if every single one of these second-person stories contains a picture and/or description of "You" that the designates the racial or ethnic background of the "character" as something other than black. Do they ''all'' have white kids on the cover? What about the S.T.A.R.S. stuff that's included here? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
			::The S.T.A.R.S. stuff was generally addressed to 'you' with no "reader avatar" pictured. [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]]/[[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]] showed pictures... but of [[Johnny]], a specific boy instead of 'you.'
			::IIRC, the US multipath adventures were not told from a human POV, just the UK Young Corgi ones. Those guys, when pictured, did indeed tend to be white... but ''Britain''.
			::The [[Iron-on patch]] commercial featured "Spike and Friends" which included a black guy. (Notable because the animated teens were grown-up versions of the kids in the commercial-- something no other TF toy commercial ever did AFAIK.) While the Iron-on patch promotion was not '''explicitly''' part of the S.T.A.R.S. promotion, the overall setup-- 3 humans approaching a remote non-Ark Autobot outpost with badges so that the Autobots can identify their allies-- is ''very'' evocative of the S.T.A.R.S. promo stories, particularly [[Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?]], where Johnny, having summoned the Autobots with a report of suspicious activity, waits for an inbound strike force to act as a local guide.
			::Between the kids=teens and the general S.T.A.R.S.iness of the whole patch setup, I think those kids, one of whom is black, qualify as a fantasy-roleplay 'you' for the purposes of this article.
			::So while you are ''seldom'' black, ''never'' is inaccurate. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 19:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

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Re: "You are never black."

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	You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)		You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)
			:I would have to question the phrase, as it is only applicable if every single one of these second-person stories contains a picture and/or description of "You" that the designates the racial or ethnic background of the "character" as something other than black. Do they ''all'' have white kids on the cover? What about the S.T.A.R.S. stuff that's included here? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC\|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:33, 21 May 2010 (EDT)

Starfield: /* Re: "You are never black." */ new section

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Re: "You are never black.": new section

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	::::::"You, ________________, are a [[human]] (presumably)..." Alternately, is there some trickery we can use to turn that first "You" into a link to each user's User page? [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 12:41, 19 May 2010 (EDT)		::::::"You, ________________, are a [[human]] (presumably)..." Alternately, is there some trickery we can use to turn that first "You" into a link to each user's User page? [[User:Hooper X\|-hx]] 12:41, 19 May 2010 (EDT)
	:::::::Seems we CAN do that using the following: [[Special:MyPage\|You]]. Only drawback is that when hovering over the link to look at the URL/article name, it'll only show the URL/name of the Special:MyPage redirect. Looks like there's an [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserFunctions extension] which could be installed to add a magic word to show the current username. However, it looks like the reason this type of thing isn't included in the Wiki core is because it would [http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?9495-Magic-word-for-username harm the caching ability of the parser] to some extent. I don't know enough about how the Wiki's parser and page caching work to know what the magnitude of the problem would be. The linked post seems to think the whole works would be mucked up.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 14:49, 19 May 2010 (EDT)		:::::::Seems we CAN do that using the following: [[Special:MyPage\|You]]. Only drawback is that when hovering over the link to look at the URL/article name, it'll only show the URL/name of the Special:MyPage redirect. Looks like there's an [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserFunctions extension] which could be installed to add a magic word to show the current username. However, it looks like the reason this type of thing isn't included in the Wiki core is because it would [http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?9495-Magic-word-for-username harm the caching ability of the parser] to some extent. I don't know enough about how the Wiki's parser and page caching work to know what the magnitude of the problem would be. The linked post seems to think the whole works would be mucked up.--[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] 14:49, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

			== Re: "You are never black." ==

			You are right! I am never black. How did you know? Sure, it is funny (<small>or something</small>) but it sort of breaks the theme of the article. I'm guessing there has been a black person somewhere who has read one of the multi-path adventure books or joined S.T.A.R.S. and are now reading the wiki and therefore are "you" for the purposes of the article. Maybe that can be moved to the "Notes" section? - [[User:Starfield\|Starfield]] 17:05, 21 May 2010 (EDT)