Template talk:Comicstory - Revision history

Tigerpaw28: /* Overcomplicated template */

2021-07-01T18:38:55Z

Overcomplicated template

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	:That template could then potentially be used in other infobox templates where suitable. I'm down as a "yes" vote for visually separating the credits as well. That looks a lot better. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:05, 30 June 2021 (EDT)		:That template could then potentially be used in other infobox templates where suitable. I'm down as a "yes" vote for visually separating the credits as well. That looks a lot better. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:05, 30 June 2021 (EDT)
			::I like that idea. Splitting the credits out both simplifies Comicstory and gives us a template we can reuse elsewhere. Excellent. --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28\|talk]]) 14:38, 1 July 2021 (EDT)

Abates: /* Overcomplicated template */

2021-07-01T01:05:32Z

Overcomplicated template

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	Does any of this sound good to anyone else? --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28\|talk]]) 15:33, 30 June 2021 (EDT)		Does any of this sound good to anyone else? --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28\|talk]]) 15:33, 30 June 2021 (EDT)
			:IMHO on the Loops extension option, having different parameters specified in different formats might be confusing, but I wonder if a way around it might be to have an infoboxcredits template so it would look like:
			<pre>
			{{comicstory\|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)\|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #31
			\|prev=The Cure!
			\|next=Used Autobots
			\|title="Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom"
			\|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK\|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #128–129
			\|prev2=The Cure!
			\|next2=Worlds Apart!
			\|image=MarvelUS-31.jpg
			\|caption=This is awesome. You know it is.
			\|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
			\|date=April [[1987]]
			\|coverdate=August 1987
			\|credits={{infoboxcredits
			\|Writer:[[Bob Budiansky]]
			\|Breakdowns:[[Don Perlin]]
			\|Finishes:[[Jim Fern]]
			\|Colorist:[[Nelson Yomtov\|Nel Yomtov]]
			\|Letterer:[[Rick Parker]]
			\|Editor:[[Don Daley]]}}
			\|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
			}}
			</pre>
			:That template could then potentially be used in other infobox templates where suitable. I'm down as a "yes" vote for visually separating the credits as well. That looks a lot better. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:05, 30 June 2021 (EDT)

Tigerpaw28: /* Overcomplicated template */ Suggestions for how to improve usability

2021-06-30T19:33:42Z

Overcomplicated template: Suggestions for how to improve usability

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	::::It's still making it more difficult for the layperson to edit simple things in an article; I shouldn't have to dig into esoteric templates just to remove a redundant category. (And attaching categories to templates is screwing up with the alphabetic order this wiki always puts categories in.)		::::It's still making it more difficult for the layperson to edit simple things in an article; I shouldn't have to dig into esoteric templates just to remove a redundant category. (And attaching categories to templates is screwing up with the alphabetic order this wiki always puts categories in.)
	::::And what Abates said is pretty much what happened. Mammalian Verisimilitude pointlessly messed with templates and then disappeared last year. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 04:56, 11 March 2013 (EDT)		::::And what Abates said is pretty much what happened. Mammalian Verisimilitude pointlessly messed with templates and then disappeared last year. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 04:56, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

			This concern came up in the Discord server recently and after some review I wanted to present my thoughts on how to make this template easier to use for editors and a suggestion for a layout change to make it easier to digest the information for readers. I've done some analysis on the way we use the Comicstory template. I ran a program to look at every instance of the template being used, making note of what parameters each instance usses, and counting the total number of times each parameter is used. There's quite a few parameters and a fair number are only being used in a few instances. This seems to be because we want to show the credits exactly as they are listed. This has lead to a lot of code being added to the template and making it way more difficult to maintain. But our desire to maintain the original listings means we can't really get rid of any parameters. The one we can definitely ditch is the series parameter and the Comicstory/seriesvariable template. All that template accomplishes is some formatting of the title and automatically adds the correct category. The former can be done by just passing in the formatted title as a lot pagesalready do (see all of the Marvel runs) and the latter can just be another parameter to pass, if we want to keep that functionality at all. I can set up [[User:Teletraan-X\|Teletraan-X]] to clean up the existing uses of the series parameter as there's 300 of them currently. We're stuck with the other parameters though.

			''Unless'', [[User:abates\|abates]] is willing to install the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Loops Loops extension]. With that, I could overhaul the template so that parameters could be added dynamically in markup instead of needing to edit the template.

			For instance, this:
			<pre>
			{{comicstory\|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)\|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #31
			\|prev=The Cure!
			\|next=Used Autobots
			\|title="Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom"
			\|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK\|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #128–129
			\|prev2=The Cure!
			\|next2=Worlds Apart!
			\|image=MarvelUS-31.jpg
			\|caption=This is awesome. You know it is.
			\|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
			\|date=April [[1987]]
			\|coverdate=August 1987
			\|writer=[[Bob Budiansky]]
			\|breakdowns=[[Don Perlin]]
			\|finishes=[[Jim Fern]]
			\|colorist=[[Nelson Yomtov\|Nel Yomtov]]
			\|letterer=[[Rick Parker]]
			\|editor=[[Don Daley]]
			\|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
			}}</pre>

			would become this:

			<pre>
			{{comicstory\|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)\|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #31
			\|prev=The Cure!
			\|next=Used Autobots
			\|title="Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom"
			\|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK\|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #128–129
			\|prev2=The Cure!
			\|next2=Worlds Apart!
			\|image=MarvelUS-31.jpg
			\|caption=This is awesome. You know it is.
			\|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
			\|date=April [[1987]]
			\|coverdate=August 1987
			\|Writer:[[Bob Budiansky]]
			\|Breakdowns:[[Don Perlin]]
			\|Finishes:[[Jim Fern]]
			\|Colorist:[[Nelson Yomtov\|Nel Yomtov]]
			\|Letterer:[[Rick Parker]]
			\|Editor:[[Don Daley]]
			\|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
			}}
			</pre>
			and the template would loop through all the parameters of the format "Credit:Person" and insert them into the markup. This would be much easier to use because you'd never need to change the template, just the markup on the page where the template is used at. It also eliminates much of the hassle in keeping the documentation page up to date when parameters are added and trying to look through a list of 100+ items to see if the one you need exists already.

			As I was looking at all this, I realized that our visual layout is a bit hard to parse. The publishing and continuity information is blended in with the actual credits and it's hard tell what's what at a glance. My suggestion would be to visually separate the credits into a separate section with its own header at the bottom like this: [[User:Tigerpaw28/Sandbox/Car_Wash_of_Doom]].

			Does any of this sound good to anyone else? --[[User:Tigerpaw28\|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28\|talk]]) 15:33, 30 June 2021 (EDT)

Mimi: /* Overcomplicated template */

2013-03-11T08:56:28Z

Overcomplicated template

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	:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: '''<nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>'''. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.		:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: '''<nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>'''. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.
	:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)		:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)
			::::It's still making it more difficult for the layperson to edit simple things in an article; I shouldn't have to dig into esoteric templates just to remove a redundant category. (And attaching categories to templates is screwing up with the alphabetic order this wiki always puts categories in.)
			::::And what Abates said is pretty much what happened. Mammalian Verisimilitude pointlessly messed with templates and then disappeared last year. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 04:56, 11 March 2013 (EDT)

SanityOrMadness: /* Overcomplicated template */

2013-03-04T12:27:49Z

Overcomplicated template

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	:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)		:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)
	::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)		::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)
	:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: <nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.		:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: '''<nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>'''. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.
	:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)		:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)

SanityOrMadness: /* Overcomplicated template */

2013-03-04T12:27:12Z

Overcomplicated template

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	:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)		:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)
	::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)		::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)
			:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: <nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.
			:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)

Abates: /* Overcomplicated template */

2013-03-03T21:10:49Z

Overcomplicated template

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	Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)		Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
	:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)		:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)
			::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)

Mimi: /* Overcomplicated template */

2013-02-28T14:59:50Z

Overcomplicated template

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	Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)		Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
			:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)

Mimi: /* Overcomplicated template */ new section

2013-02-27T21:18:34Z

Overcomplicated template: new section

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	::::I didn't. I only see "'''<nowiki>\|manga=</nowiki>'''", no "'''<nowiki>\|manga by=</nowiki>'''". And it's still showing the "letters/editors/inks" etc. confused --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)		::::I didn't. I only see "'''<nowiki>\|manga=</nowiki>'''", no "'''<nowiki>\|manga by=</nowiki>'''". And it's still showing the "letters/editors/inks" etc. confused --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
	::::Ah, never mind. Just added it. NOW it's showing up. --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:05, 30 October 2012 (EDT)		::::Ah, never mind. Just added it. NOW it's showing up. --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:05, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

			== Overcomplicated template ==

			Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)

Lonegamer78: /* On the Japanese-form */

2012-10-31T03:05:41Z

On the Japanese-form

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	:::It seems to be working OK for me. Where did you add it? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 22:42, 30 October 2012 (EDT)		:::It seems to be working OK for me. Where did you add it? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 22:42, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
	::::I didn't. I only see "'''<nowiki>\|manga=</nowiki>'''", no "'''<nowiki>\|manga by=</nowiki>'''". And it's still showing the "letters/editors/inks" etc. confused --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)		::::I didn't. I only see "'''<nowiki>\|manga=</nowiki>'''", no "'''<nowiki>\|manga by=</nowiki>'''". And it's still showing the "letters/editors/inks" etc. confused --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
			::::Ah, never mind. Just added it. NOW it's showing up. --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:05, 30 October 2012 (EDT)

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	::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)		::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)
	:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: <nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.		:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: '''<nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>'''. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.
	:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)		:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)

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	::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)		::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)
			:::Looking at it, the top ones are basically: <nowiki>\|(code)=''[[(link to series page)]]''{{#if: {{{issueno\|}}}\| #{{{issueno}}}\| {{{TPB\|{{{type\|}}}}}}}}{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|issues:}}[[Category:(series name, minus The Transformers: or Transformers:) issues{{#if: {{{chapters\|}}}\|{{!}} *}}]]</nowiki>. The IDW ones are similar, but leech off the setup for the image templates like {{tl\|IDWG1interior}} and {{tl\|IDWAligned}} rather than including them directly, presumably to avoid entering them in more than one place.
			:::And I suppose that's the intent behind the changes, to have a degree of consistency. Certainly, a couple of years ago, I noticed that different issues of the same series had differently-formatted titles in the infobox, and {{tl\|Episode}} has used codes for the G1 cartoon and a few others for much longer. But if you can't figure out how to add a series - there's absolutely no point to putting a one-shot - it would be easier just to use \|seriesissue= and do it manually (an option which was never removed). Even if no more get added, there's certainly no value in reverting the extant ones. - [[User:SanityOrMadness\|SanityOrMadness]] 07:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)

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	Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)		Can we please get rid of Mammalian Verisimilitude's changes to this template? Making it so only people who understand the esoteric workings of [[:Template:Comicstory/seriesvariable]] can edit simple things like the title and categories is an awful idea. [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 16:18, 27 February 2013 (EST)
	:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)		:No comments? [[User:Mimi\|Mimi]] 09:59, 28 February 2013 (EST)
			::I think at the very least, there should be some documentation on seriesvariable to say "this is how you add a series" or "this is how you modify an existing series". If the person who created the template goes away, it ends up with other people having to work this stuff out. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 16:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)

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	:::It seems to be working OK for me. Where did you add it? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 22:42, 30 October 2012 (EDT)		:::It seems to be working OK for me. Where did you add it? --[[User:Abates\|abates]] 22:42, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
	::::I didn't. I only see "'''<nowiki>\|manga=</nowiki>'''", no "'''<nowiki>\|manga by=</nowiki>'''". And it's still showing the "letters/editors/inks" etc. confused --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)		::::I didn't. I only see "'''<nowiki>\|manga=</nowiki>'''", no "'''<nowiki>\|manga by=</nowiki>'''". And it's still showing the "letters/editors/inks" etc. confused --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:04, 30 October 2012 (EDT)
			::::Ah, never mind. Just added it. NOW it's showing up. --[[User:Lonegamer78\|Lonegamer78]] 23:05, 30 October 2012 (EDT)