Template talk:Factions/doc - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Template_talk%3AFactions%2Fdoc Template talk:Factions/doc - Revision history 2026-09-13T22:03:56Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=490636&oldid=prev Interrobang at 21:23, 14 August 2010 2010-08-14T21:23:30Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:23, 14 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:(I suspect no one but the wiki considers the movie's stylistic variant a 'different symbol'.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:34, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:(I suspect no one but the wiki considers the movie's stylistic variant a 'different symbol'.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:34, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: I was never certain why we started using those minor variant symbols to begin with. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:55, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:: I was never certain why we started using those minor variant symbols to begin with. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:55, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Throw my vote in for eliminating them. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:23, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Interrobang https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=490625&oldid=prev M Sipher at 20:55, 14 August 2010 2010-08-14T20:55:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:55, 14 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l13">Line 13:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 13:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:OTOH, while the gray movie symbols have been used, so have the red decepticon symbols/blue autobot symbols, and various and sundry other variants-- with the 'traditional' Autobot/Decepticon symbols mixed in from the beginning-- at least on the toyline side.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:OTOH, while the gray movie symbols have been used, so have the red decepticon symbols/blue autobot symbols, and various and sundry other variants-- with the 'traditional' Autobot/Decepticon symbols mixed in from the beginning-- at least on the toyline side.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:(I suspect no one but the wiki considers the movie's stylistic variant a 'different symbol'.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:34, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:(I suspect no one but the wiki considers the movie's stylistic variant a 'different symbol'.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:34, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: I was never certain why we started using those minor variant symbols to begin with. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:55, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

M Sipher https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=490612&oldid=prev Derik at 20:34, 14 August 2010 2010-08-14T20:34:32Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:34, 14 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Well, if we're going to do it, we may as well do it right. I'll have high-res versions of the symbols in PNG format ready shortly.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Well, if we're going to do it, we may as well do it right. I'll have high-res versions of the symbols in PNG format ready shortly.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|new toyline]] having movie characters with traditional symbols, we should probably scrap having different movie faction symbols, to make things a lot easier. If there is no objection, I'll make the change. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:09, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>With the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|new toyline]] having movie characters with traditional symbols, we should probably scrap having different movie faction symbols, to make things a lot easier. If there is no objection, I'll make the change. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:09, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Fundamentally the distinction is the symbol the characters have ''worn''. (Prime has G1 and G2 Autobot symbols, for instance.)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:OTOH, while the gray movie symbols have been used, so have the red decepticon symbols/blue autobot symbols, and various and sundry other variants-- with the 'traditional' Autobot/Decepticon symbols mixed in from the beginning-- at least on the toyline side.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:(I suspect no one but the wiki considers the movie's stylistic variant a 'different symbol'.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:34, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Derik https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=490611&oldid=prev Starfield at 20:09, 14 August 2010 2010-08-14T20:09:32Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:09, 14 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And if we get a better Autobot symbol later, it is just a matter of uploading a new image. I think we should go ahead and have different faction icons for the movie. They are different. The toys do have different [[tampograph]]s, even if they get them mixed up occasionally. Anyone object strongly? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And if we get a better Autobot symbol later, it is just a matter of uploading a new image. I think we should go ahead and have different faction icons for the movie. They are different. The toys do have different [[tampograph]]s, even if they get them mixed up occasionally. Anyone object strongly? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Well, if we're going to do it, we may as well do it right. I'll have high-res versions of the symbols in PNG format ready shortly.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::Well, if we're going to do it, we may as well do it right. I'll have high-res versions of the symbols in PNG format ready shortly.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">With the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|new toyline]] having movie characters with traditional symbols, we should probably scrap having different movie faction symbols, to make things a lot easier. If there is no objection, I'll make the change. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:09, 14 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Starfield https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=423663&oldid=prev Rosicrucian at 03:26, 7 February 2010 2010-02-07T03:26:26Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:26, 7 February 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::The Autobot symbol was changed, too (slightly). The forehead is slightly larger than the rest of the face, and the eyes are noticeably squintier. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:49, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::The Autobot symbol was changed, too (slightly). The forehead is slightly larger than the rest of the face, and the eyes are noticeably squintier. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:49, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And if we get a better Autobot symbol later, it is just a matter of uploading a new image. I think we should go ahead and have different faction icons for the movie. They are different. The toys do have different [[tampograph]]s, even if they get them mixed up occasionally. Anyone object strongly? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::And if we get a better Autobot symbol later, it is just a matter of uploading a new image. I think we should go ahead and have different faction icons for the movie. They are different. The toys do have different [[tampograph]]s, even if they get them mixed up occasionally. Anyone object strongly? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::Well, if we're going to do it, we may as well do it right. I'll have high-res versions of the symbols in PNG format ready shortly.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 22:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Rosicrucian https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=423661&oldid=prev Starfield at 03:09, 7 February 2010 2010-02-07T03:09:48Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 03:09, 7 February 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::OTOH, the Decepticon symbol WAS tweaked, with slantier eyes. :p -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:43, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::OTOH, the Decepticon symbol WAS tweaked, with slantier eyes. :p -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:43, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::The Autobot symbol was changed, too (slightly). The forehead is slightly larger than the rest of the face, and the eyes are noticeably squintier. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:49, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::The Autobot symbol was changed, too (slightly). The forehead is slightly larger than the rest of the face, and the eyes are noticeably squintier. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:49, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::And if we get a better Autobot symbol later, it is just a matter of uploading a new image. I think we should go ahead and have different faction icons for the movie. They are different. The toys do have different [[tampograph]]s, even if they get them mixed up occasionally. Anyone object strongly? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Starfield https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=423656&oldid=prev Starfield at 02:49, 7 February 2010 2010-02-07T02:49:43Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:49, 7 February 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::If we were going to do this for both, then logically we'd use the ''gray'' symbols... not a simple black one. (The symbol isn't 'actually' black after all, it'r rendered as gray with red or purple/blue highlights. You know-- except the times the autobot symbol is blue and the decepticon symbol purple, which seemed to happen for a lot of the first movie stuff.) Either way, it's not really a "different" symbol like g1/g2 is... it's just a different look for the same symbol.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::If we were going to do this for both, then logically we'd use the ''gray'' symbols... not a simple black one. (The symbol isn't 'actually' black after all, it'r rendered as gray with red or purple/blue highlights. You know-- except the times the autobot symbol is blue and the decepticon symbol purple, which seemed to happen for a lot of the first movie stuff.) Either way, it's not really a "different" symbol like g1/g2 is... it's just a different look for the same symbol.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::OTOH, the Decepticon symbol WAS tweaked, with slantier eyes. :p -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:43, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::OTOH, the Decepticon symbol WAS tweaked, with slantier eyes. :p -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:43, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::The Autobot symbol was changed, too (slightly). The forehead is slightly larger than the rest of the face, and the eyes are noticeably squintier. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:49, 6 February 2010 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Starfield https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=423650&oldid=prev Derik at 02:43, 7 February 2010 2010-02-07T02:43:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:43, 7 February 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Yes, but I still don't see the need in re-templating all movie Autobots, and if we're going to do this we may as well for Decepticons as well.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:21, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Yes, but I still don't see the need in re-templating all movie Autobots, and if we're going to do this we may as well for Decepticons as well.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:21, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::It's hard to find a good Decepticon symbol. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::It's hard to find a good Decepticon symbol. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::If we were going to do this for both, then logically we'd use the ''gray'' symbols... not a simple black one. (The symbol isn't 'actually' black after all, it'r rendered as gray with red or purple/blue highlights. You know-- except the times the autobot symbol is blue and the decepticon symbol purple, which seemed to happen for a lot of the first movie stuff.) Either way, it's not really a "different" symbol like g1/g2 is... it's just a different look for the same symbol.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::OTOH, the Decepticon symbol WAS tweaked, with slantier eyes. :p -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:43, 6 February 2010 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Derik https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=423647&oldid=prev Starfield at 02:26, 7 February 2010 2010-02-07T02:26:52Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:26, 7 February 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The template differentiates the live-action Autobot faction ''symbol'' from the rest. It still points to [[Autobot]]. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:14, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The template differentiates the live-action Autobot faction ''symbol'' from the rest. It still points to [[Autobot]]. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:14, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Yes, but I still don't see the need in re-templating all movie Autobots, and if we're going to do this we may as well for Decepticons as well.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:21, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Yes, but I still don't see the need in re-templating all movie Autobots, and if we're going to do this we may as well for Decepticons as well.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:21, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::It's hard to find a good Decepticon symbol. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:26, 6 February 2010 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Starfield https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Factions/doc&diff=423645&oldid=prev Rosicrucian at 02:21, 7 February 2010 2010-02-07T02:21:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:21, 7 February 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why do we need to differentiate live-action Autobots from the rest?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:03, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Why do we need to differentiate live-action Autobots from the rest?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:03, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The template differentiates the live-action Autobot faction ''symbol'' from the rest. It still points to [[Autobot]]. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:14, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The template differentiates the live-action Autobot faction ''symbol'' from the rest. It still points to [[Autobot]]. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:14, 6 February 2010 (EST)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Yes, but I still don't see the need in re-templating all movie Autobots, and if we're going to do this we may as well for Decepticons as well.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 21:21, 6 February 2010 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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