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	Now, I always thought we were ''required'' to list the ''actual'' holder and the year the copyright stems from, and the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> template was just boilerplate to go ''above'' that, explaining that this use falls under fair use.		Now, I always thought we were ''required'' to list the ''actual'' holder and the year the copyright stems from, and the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> template was just boilerplate to go ''above'' that, explaining that this use falls under fair use.

	Am I wrong? Are we not required to do that? Or is this template ''just'' a copyright disclaimer, and we're not actually including copyright information on pictures? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		Am I wrong? Are we not required to do that? Or is this template ''just'' a copyright disclaimer, and we're not actually including copyright information on pictures? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Derik: /* Copyright Law Question */ signing

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	Now, I always thought we were ''required'' to list the ''actual'' holder and the year the copyright stems from, and the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> template was just boilerplate to go ''above'' that, explaining that this use falls under fair use.		Now, I always thought we were ''required'' to list the ''actual'' holder and the year the copyright stems from, and the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> template was just boilerplate to go ''above'' that, explaining that this use falls under fair use.

	Am I wrong? Are we not required to do that? Or is this template ''just'' a copyright disclaimer, and we're not actually including copyright information on pictures?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Am I wrong? Are we not required to do that? Or is this template ''just'' a copyright disclaimer, and we're not actually including copyright information on pictures? -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 02:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik: Copyright Law Question

2007-09-07T02:43:52Z

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	::I copied the wording from Wikipedia; if "it is believed" is good enough for them, I figure that it's good enough for us. I'm not a lawyer, so I'd like to avoid making assumptions about legal phrasing as much as I possibly can. --[[User:Suki Brits\|Suki Brits]] 20:08, 7 April 2006 (PDT)		::I copied the wording from Wikipedia; if "it is believed" is good enough for them, I figure that it's good enough for us. I'm not a lawyer, so I'd like to avoid making assumptions about legal phrasing as much as I possibly can. --[[User:Suki Brits\|Suki Brits]] 20:08, 7 April 2006 (PDT)

	True. I refered to wikipedia's phrasign for the general fair use template, which si a mish-mash of their general-purpose and franchose-specific ones. You can revert is if you like. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		True. I refered to wikipedia's phrasign for the general fair use template, which si a mish-mash of their general-purpose and franchose-specific ones. You can revert is if you like. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

			== Copyright Law Question ==

			Okay, this has been bugging me for awhile- people are slapping this template on images which says "One of these two companies own it and we don't, we're using it only in this legally recognized capacity."

			That's really a copyright ''disclaimer'', where you make it clear you're not asserting ''you'' own the image. It's not a copyright ''notice'' saying who ''does'' own the image.

			A copyright notice lists the holder, and the ''year'' that copyright dates from. The holders prefer ''both'' to be listed for 2 reasons.
			# So someone whishing to reproduce that image in a non-fair-use manner can contact the identified holder in order to pay them.
			# The year controls how long it is until their copyright on this image lapses.

			Now, I always thought we were ''required'' to list the ''actual'' holder and the year the copyright stems from, and the <nowiki>{{hastak}}</nowiki> template was just boilerplate to go ''above'' that, explaining that this use falls under fair use.

			Am I wrong? Are we not required to do that? Or is this template ''just'' a copyright disclaimer, and we're not actually including copyright information on pictures?<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Derik at 15:28, 8 April 2006

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	:I think as-is is reasonable for the moment. It's not like the template is difficult to change as we learn a correct, different phrasing.		:I think as-is is reasonable for the moment. It's not like the template is difficult to change as we learn a correct, different phrasing.
	:more at issue here is the weak language. "Gosh mister, we THINK we can do this, if it's alright with you." No, you ASSERT your rights- "We DO have a complete right to se this image under fair use!" The prior invites somene to tell yout o pull their images juzt 'cuz they feel like it- the latter says "You have to make a case that this excedes fair use, because up to a point we ARE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED in using your images." -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 22:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)		:more at issue here is the weak language. "Gosh mister, we THINK we can do this, if it's alright with you." No, you ASSERT your rights- "We DO have a complete right to se this image under fair use!" The prior invites somene to tell yout o pull their images juzt 'cuz they feel like it- the latter says "You have to make a case that this excedes fair use, because up to a point we ARE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED in using your images." -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 22:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
	::I copied the wording from Wikipedia; if "it is believed" is good enough for them, I figure that it's good enough for us. I'm not a lawyer, so I'd like to avoid making assumptions about legal phrasing as much as I possibly can. --[[User:Suki Brits\|Suki Brits]] 20:08, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		::I copied the wording from Wikipedia; if "it is believed" is good enough for them, I figure that it's good enough for us. I'm not a lawyer, so I'd like to avoid making assumptions about legal phrasing as much as I possibly can. --[[User:Suki Brits\|Suki Brits]] 20:08, 7 April 2006 (PDT)

			True. I refered to wikipedia's phrasign for the general fair use template, which si a mish-mash of their general-purpose and franchose-specific ones. You can revert is if you like. -[[User:Derik\|Derik]] 15:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Suki Brits at 03:08, 8 April 2006

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	:I think as-is is reasonable for the moment. It's not like the template is difficult to change as we learn a correct, different phrasing.		:I think as-is is reasonable for the moment. It's not like the template is difficult to change as we learn a correct, different phrasing.
	:more at issue here is the weak language. "Gosh mister, we THINK we can do this, if it's alright with you." No, you ASSERT your rights- "We DO have a complete right to se this image under fair use!" The prior invites somene to tell yout o pull their images juzt 'cuz they feel like it- the latter says "You have to make a case that this excedes fair use, because up to a point we ARE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED in using your images." -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 22:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		:more at issue here is the weak language. "Gosh mister, we THINK we can do this, if it's alright with you." No, you ASSERT your rights- "We DO have a complete right to se this image under fair use!" The prior invites somene to tell yout o pull their images juzt 'cuz they feel like it- the latter says "You have to make a case that this excedes fair use, because up to a point we ARE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED in using your images." -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 22:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
			::I copied the wording from Wikipedia; if "it is believed" is good enough for them, I figure that it's good enough for us. I'm not a lawyer, so I'd like to avoid making assumptions about legal phrasing as much as I possibly can. --[[User:Suki Brits\|Suki Brits]] 20:08, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

150.253.70.55 at 22:59, 7 April 2006

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	Is "Takaratomy" how they wish to be referred to? Given the two-line logo we've seen, I'd have guessed "Takara Tomy," or "TakaraTomy," or maybe even "Takara-Tomy." But I'd definitely have thought that "Tomy" would still be capitalized.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock\|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:10, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Is "Takaratomy" how they wish to be referred to? Given the two-line logo we've seen, I'd have guessed "Takara Tomy," or "TakaraTomy," or maybe even "Takara-Tomy." But I'd definitely have thought that "Tomy" would still be capitalized.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock\|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:10, 7 April 2006 (PDT)

			:I think as-is is reasonable for the moment. It's not like the template is difficult to change as we learn a correct, different phrasing.
			:more at issue here is the weak language. "Gosh mister, we THINK we can do this, if it's alright with you." No, you ASSERT your rights- "We DO have a complete right to se this image under fair use!" The prior invites somene to tell yout o pull their images juzt 'cuz they feel like it- the latter says "You have to make a case that this excedes fair use, because up to a point we ARE COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED in using your images." -[[User:150.253.70.55\|150.253.70.55]] 22:59, 7 April 2006 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

G.B. Blackrock: "Takaratomy"?

2006-04-07T22:10:25Z

"Takaratomy"?

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Is "Takaratomy" how they wish to be referred to? Given the two-line logo we've seen, I'd have guessed "Takara Tomy," or "TakaraTomy," or maybe even "Takara-Tomy." But I'd definitely have thought that "Tomy" would still be capitalized.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:10, 7 April 2006 (PDT)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>