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	More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee''{{'}}s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>		More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee''{{'}}s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>

	In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> But the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Well, We are kicking the can down [the road] to worry about it in a little bit. But, the truth of the matter is, we really don’t want to contradict [Bay’s films]. We’re doing our best not to contradict, and maybe we have somewhere, but in general, we’re trying to pay very close attention to what we have done.\|link=https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Fandom.com\|title=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime\|year=2023\|month=06\|day=07}}</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=For me, I’m not like fully worried about it. There are things I would love to stay within that line, but at a certain point, we all know it, Bay has admitted it, I had certain conversations with him like, in terms of tracking the storyline by movie 3, 4 and 5 (5 specifically, I would say), now it’s kinda like (...) they were freestyling. (...) So like, for me, I’m not worried about it, it’s about what’s best for the movie. For me, I have my classics. We got movie 1 with Sam Witwicky, it’s a classic. Then we got 3, some of the best action I’ve seen in any movie, best Transformers battles, like it was really good. Those are the movies, they’re like stand-alones. For us, we just make sure about our story and if it tracks through each one [we make]. If we try to hold ourselves to what another storyline/ timeline was, we’d definitely be in trouble. Cause at a certain point, I don’t think anyone knew exactly where they were going with 4 and 5.\|https://www.seibertron.com/transmissions/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=Seibertron.com\|title=Rise of the Beasts Director Confirms that Continuity is not a Concern within the Transformers Film Franchise\|year=2023\|month=07\|day=15}}</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.		In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> But the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Well, We are kicking the can down [the road] to worry about it in a little bit. But, the truth of the matter is, we really don’t want to contradict [Bay’s films]. We’re doing our best not to contradict, and maybe we have somewhere, but in general, we’re trying to pay very close attention to what we have done.\|link=https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Fandom.com\|title=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime\|year=2023\|month=06\|day=07}}</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=For me, I’m not like fully worried about it. There are things I would love to stay within that line, but at a certain point, we all know it, Bay has admitted it, I had certain conversations with him like, in terms of tracking the storyline by movie 3, 4 and 5 (5 specifically, I would say), now it’s kinda like (...) they were freestyling. (...) So like, for me, I’m not worried about it, it’s about what’s best for the movie. For me, I have my classics. We got movie 1 with Sam Witwicky, it’s a classic. Then we got 3, some of the best action I’ve seen in any movie, best Transformers battles, like it was really good. Those are the movies, they’re like stand-alones. For us, we just make sure about our story and if it tracks through each one [we make]. If we try to hold ourselves to what another storyline/ timeline was, we’d definitely be in trouble. Cause at a certain point, I don’t think anyone knew exactly where they were going with 4 and 5.\|link=https://www.seibertron.com/transmissions/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=Seibertron.com\|title=Rise of the Beasts Director Confirms that Continuity is not a Concern within the Transformers Film Franchise\|year=2023\|month=07\|day=15}}</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.

	Whichever approach you subscribe to, it's pretty clear the decision to set the film in 1994 was one primarily made to avoid having to directly deal with the timeframe of the Bay movies in any capacity, and tell a new story free of their immediate baggage — the "can-kicking" Lorenzo spoke of. For what it's worth, the film takes some steps to preserve the broad continuity of at least the first Bay film; the Transwarp Key's energy is explicitly stated to operate on a frequency that humans cannot perceive, meaning that they literally cannot ''see'' the huge sky-beam, while massive storm clouds appear to hide the appearance of Unicron from public view. As such, the film ends with the general population of Earth (beyond secret forces within the US government) still entirely unaware of the Transformers' existence, as was the case when the 2007 film began. As the time-gap between these "prequels" and the first movie narrows, though, it becomes increasingly difficult to imagine them fitting together without a lot of hand-waving away of specific details, unless future movies actually start making active attempts to address this.		Whichever approach you subscribe to, it's pretty clear the decision to set the film in 1994 was one primarily made to avoid having to directly deal with the timeframe of the Bay movies in any capacity, and tell a new story free of their immediate baggage — the "can-kicking" Lorenzo spoke of. For what it's worth, the film takes some steps to preserve the broad continuity of at least the first Bay film; the Transwarp Key's energy is explicitly stated to operate on a frequency that humans cannot perceive, meaning that they literally cannot ''see'' the huge sky-beam, while massive storm clouds appear to hide the appearance of Unicron from public view. As such, the film ends with the general population of Earth (beyond secret forces within the US government) still entirely unaware of the Transformers' existence, as was the case when the 2007 film began. As the time-gap between these "prequels" and the first movie narrows, though, it becomes increasingly difficult to imagine them fitting together without a lot of hand-waving away of specific details, unless future movies actually start making active attempts to address this.

Chris McFeely: /* Continuity notes */

2026-04-13T10:07:21Z

Continuity notes

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	More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee''{{'}}s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>		More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee''{{'}}s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>

	In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> At the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>[https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime~~" on Fandom.com]~~</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/~~transformers/news~~/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/ ~~Extract from an interview with~~ Caple Jr. ~~on the ''Empire Spoiler Specials'' podcast, via~~ Seibertron.com]</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.		In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> But the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Well, We are kicking the can down [the road] to worry about it in a little bit. But, the truth of the matter is, we really don’t want to contradict [Bay’s films]. We’re doing our best not to contradict, and maybe we have somewhere, but in general, we’re trying to pay very close attention to what we have done.\|link=https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Fandom.com\|title=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime\|year=2023\|month=06\|day=07}}</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=For me, I’m not like fully worried about it. There are things I would love to stay within that line, but at a certain point, we all know it, Bay has admitted it, I had certain conversations with him like, in terms of tracking the storyline by movie 3, 4 and 5 (5 specifically, I would say), now it’s kinda like (...) they were freestyling. (...) So like, for me, I’m not worried about it, it’s about what’s best for the movie. For me, I have my classics. We got movie 1 with Sam Witwicky, it’s a classic. Then we got 3, some of the best action I’ve seen in any movie, best Transformers battles, like it was really good. Those are the movies, they’re like stand-alones. For us, we just make sure about our story and if it tracks through each one [we make]. If we try to hold ourselves to what another storyline/ timeline was, we’d definitely be in trouble. Cause at a certain point, I don’t think anyone knew exactly where they were going with 4 and 5.\|https://www.seibertron.com/transmissions/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=Seibertron.com\|title=Rise of the Beasts Director Confirms that Continuity is not a Concern within the Transformers Film Franchise\|year=2023\|month=07\|day=15}}</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.

	Whichever approach you subscribe to, it's pretty clear the decision to set the film in 1994 was one primarily made to avoid having to directly deal with the timeframe of the Bay movies in any capacity, and tell a new story free of their immediate baggage — the "can-kicking" Lorenzo spoke of. For what it's worth, the film takes some steps to preserve the broad continuity of at least the first Bay film; the Transwarp Key's energy is explicitly stated to operate on a frequency that humans cannot perceive, meaning that they literally cannot ''see'' the huge sky-beam, while massive storm clouds appear to hide the appearance of Unicron from public view. As such, the film ends with the general population of Earth (beyond secret forces within the US government) still entirely unaware of the Transformers' existence, as was the case when the 2007 film began. As the time-gap between these "prequels" and the first movie narrows, though, it becomes increasingly difficult to imagine them fitting together without a lot of hand-waving away of specific details, unless future movies actually start making active attempts to address this.		Whichever approach you subscribe to, it's pretty clear the decision to set the film in 1994 was one primarily made to avoid having to directly deal with the timeframe of the Bay movies in any capacity, and tell a new story free of their immediate baggage — the "can-kicking" Lorenzo spoke of. For what it's worth, the film takes some steps to preserve the broad continuity of at least the first Bay film; the Transwarp Key's energy is explicitly stated to operate on a frequency that humans cannot perceive, meaning that they literally cannot ''see'' the huge sky-beam, while massive storm clouds appear to hide the appearance of Unicron from public view. As such, the film ends with the general population of Earth (beyond secret forces within the US government) still entirely unaware of the Transformers' existence, as was the case when the 2007 film began. As the time-gap between these "prequels" and the first movie narrows, though, it becomes increasingly difficult to imagine them fitting together without a lot of hand-waving away of specific details, unless future movies actually start making active attempts to address this.

TheLastGherkin: /* Continuity notes */

2026-04-11T12:05:43Z

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	''Rise of the Beasts'' is a direct sequel to 2018's ''[[Bumblebee (film)\|Bumblebee]]'' film, taking place seven years after its events, in 1994. The plot of the film has little impact on this one, beyond it being established that the Autobots have been stranded on Earth since arriving at its end. While waiting for Noah to infiltrate the museum, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee have a conversation that alludes to Bee's time with [[Charlie Watson]].		''Rise of the Beasts'' is a direct sequel to 2018's ''[[Bumblebee (film)\|Bumblebee]]'' film, taking place seven years after its events, in 1994. The plot of the film has little impact on this one, beyond it being established that the Autobots have been stranded on Earth since arriving at its end. While waiting for Noah to infiltrate the museum, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee have a conversation that alludes to Bee's time with [[Charlie Watson]].

	More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee'''s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>		More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee''{{'}}s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>

	In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> At the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>[https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime" on Fandom.com]</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/ Extract from an interview with Caple Jr. on the ''Empire Spoiler Specials'' podcast, via Seibertron.com]</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.		In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> At the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>[https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime" on Fandom.com]</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/ Extract from an interview with Caple Jr. on the ''Empire Spoiler Specials'' podcast, via Seibertron.com]</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.

TM2 Dinobot: /* Filming, animation, and technical errors */

2026-04-06T22:10:11Z

Filming, animation, and technical errors

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	* As the heroes are walking through the jungle, the scene cuts to Elena while she is saying "So, what are you?", which does not match her lips.		* As the heroes are walking through the jungle, the scene cuts to Elena while she is saying "So, what are you?", which does not match her lips.
	* When Cheetor transforms, his spear tip floats for a few frames before reconnecting to the shaft.		* When Cheetor transforms, his spear tip floats for a few frames before reconnecting to the shaft.
			* As Nightbird fights Bumblebee in the third act, she draws her sword with her right hand. Moments later she draws her sword again, and in an animation error immediately draws the same sword for a third time.
	* During the final battle, the line where Primal declares "We'll clear the way!" accidentally uses the scratch track recorded by David Sobolov rather than Ron Perlman's final VO. This led to some confusion among fans, who thought the line might have been spoken by Rhinox (who, despite Sobolov being credited for the role, is silent in the finished film), but Sobolov himself clarified the mix-up at a later convention panel.		* During the final battle, the line where Primal declares "We'll clear the way!" accidentally uses the scratch track recorded by David Sobolov rather than Ron Perlman's final VO. This led to some confusion among fans, who thought the line might have been spoken by Rhinox (who, despite Sobolov being credited for the role, is silent in the finished film), but Sobolov himself clarified the mix-up at a later convention panel.
	* As Optimus Prime looks up at Unicron arriving at the mouth of the portal, Arcee can be seen scuttling about blasting Sweeps; except her blasters produce no laser effects.		* As Optimus Prime looks up at Unicron arriving at the mouth of the portal, Arcee can be seen scuttling about blasting Sweeps; except her blasters produce no laser effects.

BerylRoll at 14:41, 21 February 2026

2026-02-21T14:41:47Z

ABYouKnowMe: Listed Czech, Hungarian, Slovak, and Turkish titles

2026-01-10T17:59:41Z

Listed Czech, Hungarian, Slovak, and Turkish titles

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	* ''Russian:'' '''''Transformery: Voskhozhdeniye Zverobotov''''' (Трансформеры: Восхождение Звероботов, "Transformers: Rise of the Beastbots")		* ''Russian:'' '''''Transformery: Voskhozhdeniye Zverobotov''''' (Трансформеры: Восхождение Звероботов, "Transformers: Rise of the Beastbots")
	* ''Ukrainian:'' '''''Transformery: Chas Zvirobotiv''''' (Трансформери: Час Звіроботів, "Transformers: Time of the Beastbots")		* ''Ukrainian:'' '''''Transformery: Chas Zvirobotiv''''' (Трансформери: Час Звіроботів, "Transformers: Time of the Beastbots")
	* ''Polish:'' '''''Transformers. Przebudzenie bestii''''' ("Transformers Beasts ~~Aweakening~~")		* ''Polish:'' '''''Transformers. Przebudzenie bestii''''' ("Transformers Beasts Awakening")
			* ''Czech:'' '''''Transformers: Probuzení monster''''' ("Transformers: Awakening the Monsters")
			* ''Hungarian:'' '''''Transformers: A fenevadak kora''''' ("Transformers: Age of Beasts")
			* ''Slovak:'' '''''Transformers: Monštrá sa prebúdzajú''''' ("Transformers: The Monsters are Awakening")
			* ''Turkish:'' '''''Transformers: Canavarların Yükselişi''''' ("Transformers: Rise of the Monsters")
	:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 9]], 2023		:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 9]], 2023

Mojotron: /* Real-life references */

2025-12-15T14:09:15Z

Real-life references

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	* Also in the aftermath of the chase, he refers to the 1988 movie ''{{w\|Big (film)\|Big}}'' during his impression of Optimus Prime.		* Also in the aftermath of the chase, he refers to the 1988 movie ''{{w\|Big (film)\|Big}}'' during his impression of Optimus Prime.
	* Noah calls Mirage {{w\|E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial\|E.T.}} for obvious reasons. He also makes a reference to [[Indiana Jones]] when discovering the hidden temple in Peru.		* Noah calls Mirage {{w\|E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial\|E.T.}} for obvious reasons. He also makes a reference to [[Indiana Jones]] when discovering the hidden temple in Peru.
	* Bumblebee drops various voice lines from famous real-life films throughout the whole movie, including ''{{w\|Die Hard}}'', ''[[Spaceballs]]'', ''{{w\|They Live}}'', ''{{w\|A Few Good Men}}'' and ''{{w\|Scarface (1983 film)\|Scarface}}.''		* Bumblebee drops various voice lines from famous real-life films throughout the whole movie, including ''{{w\|Die Hard}}'', ''[[Spaceballs]]'', ''{{w\|Dead Poets Society}}'',''{{w\|They Live}}'', ''{{w\|A Few Good Men}}'' and ''{{w\|Scarface (1983 film)\|Scarface}}.''
	* While fleeing in the museum, Elena sings Zhané's song "{{w\|Groove Thang}}" to try to calm herself down.		* While fleeing in the museum, Elena sings Zhané's song "{{w\|Groove Thang}}" to try to calm herself down.
	* As they rendezvous with the other Autobots for the trip to Peru, Mirage announces that "[[Wu-Tang Clan\|Wu-Tang]] is in the building."		* As they rendezvous with the other Autobots for the trip to Peru, Mirage announces that "[[Wu-Tang Clan\|Wu-Tang]] is in the building."

Grievous Prime: /* Changes before, during, and after production */

2025-08-03T14:23:48Z

Changes before, during, and after production

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	* A scene was filmed of (in their truck modes) Optimus intercepting and ramming Scourge through a wall in Cuzco.<ref>[https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/10/15/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-action-scene-between-autobots-terrocons-in-cuzco-explosions-443003 "Transformers Rise Of The Beasts – Action Scene Between Autobots & Terrocons In Cuzco & Explosions!"—TFW2005]</ref> No such sequence appeared in the final film, though a similar visual was used in one of [https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/05/08/even-more-new-transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-character-posters-482376 Optimus Prime's character posters], set on the mountain road instead.		* A scene was filmed of (in their truck modes) Optimus intercepting and ramming Scourge through a wall in Cuzco.<ref>[https://news.tfw2005.com/2021/10/15/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-action-scene-between-autobots-terrocons-in-cuzco-explosions-443003 "Transformers Rise Of The Beasts – Action Scene Between Autobots & Terrocons In Cuzco & Explosions!"—TFW2005]</ref> No such sequence appeared in the final film, though a similar visual was used in one of [https://news.tfw2005.com/2023/05/08/even-more-new-transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-character-posters-482376 Optimus Prime's character posters], set on the mountain road instead.
	* Cheetor and Rhinox were initially intended to be introduced slightly earlier, encountering Elena and Noah in the underground cavern. In scenes interspersed with the Autobots' and Terrorcons' running battle on the hilltop road, Cheetor was to be the one who took down Freezer as he menaced the two humans, after which Noah's gauntlet would accidentally fire a shot at the Maximal, causing him and Rhinox to chase them through the cave. Cut in favor of making the Autobot/Terrorcon battle one unbroken scene, the alternate version was included as a bonus on the home media release.		* Cheetor and Rhinox were initially intended to be introduced slightly earlier, encountering Elena and Noah in the underground cavern. In scenes interspersed with the Autobots' and Terrorcons' running battle on the hilltop road, Cheetor was to be the one who took down Freezer as he menaced the two humans, after which Noah's gauntlet would accidentally fire a shot at the Maximal, causing him and Rhinox to chase them through the cave. Cut in favor of making the Autobot/Terrorcon battle one unbroken scene, the alternate version was included as a bonus on the home media release.
	*According to concept artists [[Eddie Del Rio]] and [[Shane Baxley]] more [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacons]] other than Scorponok were considered to have a role in the movie; known characters include: [[Waspinator (ROTB)\|Waspinator]], [[:File:ROTBRamhorn.jpg\|Ram]][[:File:15-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Ramhorn-Concept-Art.jpg\|horn]], [[:File:Snapper.jpg\|Snapper]], [[:File:Retrax2.jpg\|Retrax]], [[:File:Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Blackaracnia-Concept-Art.jpg\|Blackarachnia]], [[:File:ROTBSpittor.jpg\|Spit]][[:File:14-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Spittor-Concept-Art.jpg\|tor]] and [[:File:Rampage-face.jpg\|Rampage]].		*According to concept artists [[Eddie Del Rio]] and [[Shane Baxley]] more [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacons]] other than Scorponok were considered to have a role in the movie; known characters include: [[Waspinator (ROTB)\|Waspinator]], [[:File:ROTBRamhorn.jpg\|Ram]][[:File:15-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Ramhorn-Concept-Art.jpg\|horn]], [[:File:Snapper.jpg\|Snapper]], [[:File:Retrax2.jpg\|Retrax]], [[:File:Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Blackaracnia-Concept-Art.jpg\|Blackarachnia]], [[:File:ROTB Tarantulas concept.jpg\|Tarantulas]], [[:File:ROTBSpittor.jpg\|Spit]][[:File:14-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Spittor-Concept-Art.jpg\|tor]] and [[:File:Rampage-face.jpg\|Rampage]].
	** ~~However while development~~ on ~~the first six~~ of ~~them only~~ got as far as rough sketches, it appears ~~Rampage~~ went pretty far into production before being scrapped, to the point where he was originally supposed to appear as [[:File:ROTB-Rampage-concept.jpg\|a deceased corpse]] during the underground cavern sequence of the movie and [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu44E6aoECC/ a full 360° CGI model] was even animated for the character.		** Development on most of these characters got as far as rough sketches, with one notable exception: Rampage. It appears in fact this character went pretty far into production before being scrapped, to the point where he was originally supposed to appear as [[:File:ROTB-Rampage-concept.jpg\|a deceased corpse]] during the underground cavern sequence of the movie and [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu44E6aoECC/ a full 360° CGI model] was even animated for the character.
	* Multiple changes were made to the film's ending, which originally had a much darker tone like the scrapped opening. Originally, Mirage wasn't planned to survive the final battle, and Optimus would have been sucked into the portal after destroying the Transwarp Key and wind up floating in space before Unicron in the post-credits scene. Reactions by the audience in test screenings convinced Caple to change the ending to something a bit more hopeful, wanting to let the good guys get a solid win.<ref name=AltEnding>[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-ending-1235512382/ ‘Transformers: Rise of the Beasts’ Director Steven Caple Jr. Talks That Ending, Hailee Steinfeld and Test Screening Changes — The Hollywood Reporter]</ref> The scene of Prime and Unicron was included as an extra with the home media release.		* Multiple changes were made to the film's ending, which originally had a much darker tone like the scrapped opening. Originally, Mirage wasn't planned to survive the final battle, and Optimus would have been sucked into the portal after destroying the Transwarp Key and wind up floating in space before Unicron in the post-credits scene. Reactions by the audience in test screenings convinced Caple to change the ending to something a bit more hopeful, wanting to let the good guys get a solid win.<ref name=AltEnding>[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-ending-1235512382/ ‘Transformers: Rise of the Beasts’ Director Steven Caple Jr. Talks That Ending, Hailee Steinfeld and Test Screening Changes — The Hollywood Reporter]</ref> The scene of Prime and Unicron was included as an extra with the home media release.
	* Two versions of the final scene were filmed: one in which Agent Burke's business card reveals him to be part of [[Sector Seven]], and the version used in the film, in which he's part of G.I. Joe. According to Caple, the Sector Seven version was filmed only as misdirection, and the G.I. Joe version was always the one he intended to use.<ref name=Joe/>		* Two versions of the final scene were filmed: one in which Agent Burke's business card reveals him to be part of [[Sector Seven]], and the version used in the film, in which he's part of G.I. Joe. According to Caple, the Sector Seven version was filmed only as misdirection, and the G.I. Joe version was always the one he intended to use.<ref name=Joe/>

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	* ''Russian:'' '''''Transformery: Voskhozhdeniye Zverobotov''''' (Трансформеры: Восхождение Звероботов, "Transformers: Rise of the Beastbots")		* ''Russian:'' '''''Transformery: Voskhozhdeniye Zverobotov''''' (Трансформеры: Восхождение Звероботов, "Transformers: Rise of the Beastbots")
	* ''Ukrainian:'' '''''Transformery: Chas Zvirobotiv''''' (Трансформери: Час Звіроботів, "Transformers: Time of the Beastbots")		* ''Ukrainian:'' '''''Transformery: Chas Zvirobotiv''''' (Трансформери: Час Звіроботів, "Transformers: Time of the Beastbots")
			* ''Polish:'' '''''Transformers. Przebudzenie bestii''''' ("Transformers Beasts Aweakening")
			:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 9]], 2023


	==References==		==References==

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	* Cheetor and Rhinox were initially intended to be introduced slightly earlier, encountering Elena and Noah in the underground cavern. In scenes interspersed with the Autobots' and Terrorcons' running battle on the hilltop road, Cheetor was to be the one who took down Freezer as he menaced the two humans, after which Noah's gauntlet would accidentally fire a shot at the Maximal, causing him and Rhinox to chase them through the cave. Cut in favor of making the Autobot/Terrorcon battle one unbroken scene, the alternate version was included as a bonus on the home media release.		* Cheetor and Rhinox were initially intended to be introduced slightly earlier, encountering Elena and Noah in the underground cavern. In scenes interspersed with the Autobots' and Terrorcons' running battle on the hilltop road, Cheetor was to be the one who took down Freezer as he menaced the two humans, after which Noah's gauntlet would accidentally fire a shot at the Maximal, causing him and Rhinox to chase them through the cave. Cut in favor of making the Autobot/Terrorcon battle one unbroken scene, the alternate version was included as a bonus on the home media release.
	*According to concept artists [[Eddie Del Rio]] and [[Shane Baxley]] more [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacons]] other than Scorponok were considered to have a role in the movie; known characters include: [[Waspinator (ROTB)\|Waspinator]], [[:File:ROTBRamhorn.jpg\|Ram]][[:File:15-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Ramhorn-Concept-Art.jpg\|horn]], [[:File:Snapper.jpg\|Snapper]], [[:File:Retrax2.jpg\|Retrax]], [[:File:Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Blackaracnia-Concept-Art.jpg\|Blackarachnia]], [[:File:ROTBSpittor.jpg\|Spit]][[:File:14-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Spittor-Concept-Art.jpg\|tor]] and [[:File:Rampage-face.jpg\|Rampage]].		*According to concept artists [[Eddie Del Rio]] and [[Shane Baxley]] more [[Predacon (BW)\|Predacons]] other than Scorponok were considered to have a role in the movie; known characters include: [[Waspinator (ROTB)\|Waspinator]], [[:File:ROTBRamhorn.jpg\|Ram]][[:File:15-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Ramhorn-Concept-Art.jpg\|horn]], [[:File:Snapper.jpg\|Snapper]], [[:File:Retrax2.jpg\|Retrax]], [[:File:Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Blackaracnia-Concept-Art.jpg\|Blackarachnia]], [[:File:ROTBSpittor.jpg\|Spit]][[:File:14-Rise-Of-The-Beasts-Spittor-Concept-Art.jpg\|tor]] and [[:File:Rampage-face.jpg\|Rampage]].
	** However while development on the first ~~five~~ of them only got as far as rough sketches, it appears Rampage went pretty far into production before being scrapped, to the point where he was originally supposed to appear as [[:File:ROTB-Rampage-concept.jpg\|a deceased corpse]] during the underground cavern sequence of the movie and [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu44E6aoECC/ a full 360° CGI model] was even animated for the character.		** However while development on the first six of them only got as far as rough sketches, it appears Rampage went pretty far into production before being scrapped, to the point where he was originally supposed to appear as [[:File:ROTB-Rampage-concept.jpg\|a deceased corpse]] during the underground cavern sequence of the movie and [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cu44E6aoECC/ a full 360° CGI model] was even animated for the character.
	* Multiple changes were made to the film's ending, which originally had a much darker tone like the scrapped opening. Originally, Mirage wasn't planned to survive the final battle, and Optimus would have been sucked into the portal after destroying the Transwarp Key and wind up floating in space before Unicron in the post-credits scene. Reactions by the audience in test screenings convinced Caple to change the ending to something a bit more hopeful, wanting to let the good guys get a solid win.<ref name=AltEnding>[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-ending-1235512382/ ‘Transformers: Rise of the Beasts’ Director Steven Caple Jr. Talks That Ending, Hailee Steinfeld and Test Screening Changes — The Hollywood Reporter]</ref> The scene of Prime and Unicron was included as an extra with the home media release.		* Multiple changes were made to the film's ending, which originally had a much darker tone like the scrapped opening. Originally, Mirage wasn't planned to survive the final battle, and Optimus would have been sucked into the portal after destroying the Transwarp Key and wind up floating in space before Unicron in the post-credits scene. Reactions by the audience in test screenings convinced Caple to change the ending to something a bit more hopeful, wanting to let the good guys get a solid win.<ref name=AltEnding>[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-ending-1235512382/ ‘Transformers: Rise of the Beasts’ Director Steven Caple Jr. Talks That Ending, Hailee Steinfeld and Test Screening Changes — The Hollywood Reporter]</ref> The scene of Prime and Unicron was included as an extra with the home media release.
	* Two versions of the final scene were filmed: one in which Agent Burke's business card reveals him to be part of [[Sector Seven]], and the version used in the film, in which he's part of G.I. Joe. According to Caple, the Sector Seven version was filmed only as misdirection, and the G.I. Joe version was always the one he intended to use.<ref name=Joe/>		* Two versions of the final scene were filmed: one in which Agent Burke's business card reveals him to be part of [[Sector Seven]], and the version used in the film, in which he's part of G.I. Joe. According to Caple, the Sector Seven version was filmed only as misdirection, and the G.I. Joe version was always the one he intended to use.<ref name=Joe/>

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	''Rise of the Beasts'' is a direct sequel to 2018's ''[[Bumblebee (film)\|Bumblebee]]'' film, taking place seven years after its events, in 1994. The plot of the film has little impact on this one, beyond it being established that the Autobots have been stranded on Earth since arriving at its end. While waiting for Noah to infiltrate the museum, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee have a conversation that alludes to Bee's time with [[Charlie Watson]].		''Rise of the Beasts'' is a direct sequel to 2018's ''[[Bumblebee (film)\|Bumblebee]]'' film, taking place seven years after its events, in 1994. The plot of the film has little impact on this one, beyond it being established that the Autobots have been stranded on Earth since arriving at its end. While waiting for Noah to infiltrate the museum, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee have a conversation that alludes to Bee's time with [[Charlie Watson]].

	More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee'''s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>		More notably, ''Rise of the Beasts'' serves to continue the heated debate among fans over whether or not the ''Transformers'' live-action film series has been rebooted, after reshoots to ''Bumblebee'' that served to distance it from the earlier films directed by [[Michael Bay]] introduced some significant discontinuities with Bay's films (2017's ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)\|The Last Knight]]'' in particular). Though fans were quick to jump on the idea that this meant the film was a total, hard reboot of the movie universe, Paramount has not committed to that idea; ''Rise of the Beasts'' was not promoted as a reboot any more than ''Bumblebee'' was, and many reviews of and articles about the film have casually referred to it as a prequel. Some web outlets would even run articles commenting on Paramount's hazy stance on the movie's (and ''Bumblebee''{{'}}s) place in continuity.<ref>[https://www.cbr.com/transformers-7-bumblebee-reboot-mistake "Rise of the Beasts Is Repeating Bumblebee's Worst Mistake" on CBR.com]</ref><ref>[https://movieweb.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-is-a-reboot/ "Why Does Paramount Keep Pretending Rise of the Beasts Is Not a Reboot?" on MovieWeb.com]</ref>

	In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> At the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>[https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime" on Fandom.com]</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/ Extract from an interview with Caple Jr. on the ''Empire Spoiler Specials'' podcast, via Seibertron.com]</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.		In-keeping with this, in the run-up to the film's release, like [[Travis Knight]] before him, director Steven Caple Jr. was reluctant to declare the film a full and total continuity reboot; notably, in one particular interview, he called the film "a reboot for sure," only to walk the statement back ten seconds later, instead saying that one "could call it a reboot" in terms of starting point, reframing it instead as a "refresher" and a "new direction," that nonetheless preserved many elements of the earlier films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=It's a reboot for sure. The Bayverse... you can still watch the Bayverse and be on your own verse, so to speak. With us, we're definitely like, we want this to work, you know? We want people to... it's a refresher, so we can call reboot in terms of like, where we were starting. But yeah so definitely a new direction for sure. There's some things you could probably connect to it, clearly Bee is like a huge connection to all the movies, you know what I mean? In terms of his car, his design, a Camaro, and things like that, but... it's a very small one, in terms of the big ideas that we have. And so you guys will see definitely where we're going at the end of this film, which is crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MfMFxvT_-Q&t=2452s\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=The Alfonso Nation\|title="BAYVERSE vs REBOOT" & Wheeljacks Design \| ROTB DIRECTOR STEVEN CAPLE JR Interview!\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=27}}</ref> Longtime producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] has taken a more explicit stance, repeatedly denying that the film is a reboot and stating that it is a prequel that shows how Optimus Prime grows to become the character seen in the Bay films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Hey you know if you look at it from a timeline point of view, it follows ''Bumblebee''... but it is a prequel, in that it's before all the previous movies. So it sort of exists in its own way. What I don't think it is, is a reboot, because it's still our characters. One of the things that Steven brought to the table right from the beginning, which was so great, was the idea that when we meet Optimus Prime, he's different than what we think of him, and we're watching him grow up—if you would—as a leader. And for me that was one of the most exciting parts of the movie, and what was interesting was watching it with audiences, and at first they were uncomfortable a little bit, like, "wait, that's not exactly the Optimus... he should like humans!" You know? So I think it gives the movie a really interesting point of view, and that therefore it stands alone in that way.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11sKGYcq9k&t=871s\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=a panel at the premiere of ''Rise of the Beasts''\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=26}}</ref><ref>{{citesocial\|quote=But what's interesting is, and you will appreciate this as a fan, at the end of ''Bumblebee'', Optimus comes to Earth. What he's experienced is failure, probably for the first time in his life, right? He's had to retreat, he's leaving the planet Cybertron. What's happened to him from that experience? When we meet him in 2007, he's a particular person, if you would. In 1994, he's not the same person. He still has growth to do between ‘94 and 2007. So the character arc for Optimus in this, and the fun for the audience is, when you first meet Optimus – and we've had this experience because we've watched it with audiences and we've heard them talk about it – they're like, “It's definitely Optimus, but there's something a little different…” At first, they're like, “Wait, what, who… what Optimus is this?” And by the end of the movie, Optimus has become the guy that you've recognized from the Bay movies. Emotional.\|link=https://collider.com/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-michael-bay-movies-producer-comments/\|name=Lorenzo di Bonaventura\|site=Collider\|title='Transformers: Rise of the Beasts' Producer on How It Differs From Michael Bay's Movies\|year=2023\|month=05\|day=24}}</ref> At the same time, di Bonaventura has also conceded that they were "kicking the can down the road" when it came to continuity concerns, preferring to worry about it in the future, and that the films "maybe have" contradicted Bay's movies despite efforts not to.<ref>[https://www.fandom.com/articles/transformers-rise-beast-wars-optimus-prime Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Shows a Different Side of Optimus Prime" on Fandom.com]</ref> These particular claims line up with statements made by Caple after the film's release, in which he stated he is "not worried" about continuity, and is just focused on making the best choices for each individual movie's story. He cites 2007's ''Transformers'' and ''Dark of the Moon'' as "his classics," and says he would "love to stay within that line," but does not feel compelled to adhere much to ''Age of Extinction'' and ''The Last Knight,'' since he views their stories as the result of creators "freestyling," and doubts that "anyone knew exactly where they were going with [them]."<ref>[https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rise-of-the-beasts-director-confirms-that-continuity-is-not-a-concern-within-the-transformers-film-franchise/47813/ Extract from an interview with Caple Jr. on the ''Empire Spoiler Specials'' podcast, via Seibertron.com]</ref> And that's... probably about as good an answer as we're going to get right now.

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	* Also in the aftermath of the chase, he refers to the 1988 movie ''{{w\|Big (film)\|Big}}'' during his impression of Optimus Prime.		* Also in the aftermath of the chase, he refers to the 1988 movie ''{{w\|Big (film)\|Big}}'' during his impression of Optimus Prime.
	* Noah calls Mirage {{w\|E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial\|E.T.}} for obvious reasons. He also makes a reference to [[Indiana Jones]] when discovering the hidden temple in Peru.		* Noah calls Mirage {{w\|E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial\|E.T.}} for obvious reasons. He also makes a reference to [[Indiana Jones]] when discovering the hidden temple in Peru.
	* Bumblebee drops various voice lines from famous real-life films throughout the whole movie, including ''{{w\|Die Hard}}'', ''[[Spaceballs]]'', ''{{w\|They Live}}'', ''{{w\|A Few Good Men}}'' and ''{{w\|Scarface (1983 film)\|Scarface}}.''		* Bumblebee drops various voice lines from famous real-life films throughout the whole movie, including ''{{w\|Die Hard}}'', ''[[Spaceballs]]'', ''{{w\|Dead Poets Society}}'',''{{w\|They Live}}'', ''{{w\|A Few Good Men}}'' and ''{{w\|Scarface (1983 film)\|Scarface}}.''
	* While fleeing in the museum, Elena sings Zhané's song "{{w\|Groove Thang}}" to try to calm herself down.		* While fleeing in the museum, Elena sings Zhané's song "{{w\|Groove Thang}}" to try to calm herself down.
	* As they rendezvous with the other Autobots for the trip to Peru, Mirage announces that "[[Wu-Tang Clan\|Wu-Tang]] is in the building."		* As they rendezvous with the other Autobots for the trip to Peru, Mirage announces that "[[Wu-Tang Clan\|Wu-Tang]] is in the building."

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	* A TV screen briefly shows news coverage of the {{w\|Murder trial of O. J. Simpson#Bronco chase\|O. J. Simpson white Ford Bronco car chase}}, which places the events of the film near [[June 17]], 1994.		* A TV screen briefly shows news coverage of the {{w\|Murder trial of O. J. Simpson#Bronco chase\|O. J. Simpson white Ford Bronco car chase}}, which places the events of the film near [[June 17]], 1994.
	* Throughout the film, Noah and Kris use the codenames "[[Sonic the Hedgehog (character)\|Sonic]]" and "[[Tails]]" (and in one instance, Mirage is referred to as "{{w\|Knuckles the Echidna\|Knuckles}}"), a nod to the characters from the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (video game)\|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' videogame series.		* Throughout the film, Noah and Kris use the codenames "[[Sonic the Hedgehog (character)\|Sonic]]" and "[[Tails]]" (and in one instance, Mirage is referred to as "{{w\|Knuckles the Echidna\|Knuckles}}"), a nod to the characters from the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (video game)\|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' videogame series.
	* Kris wears a shirt of the ''Mighty Morphin' [[Power Rangers]]'', another property owned by Hasbro. A poster of said series also appears on his wall.		* Kris wears a shirt of the ''[[Power Rangers (franchise)\|Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers]]'', another property owned by Hasbro. A poster of said series also appears on his wall.
	* Kris is heard playing ''Super Mario Bros.'' on his [[Game Boy]]. However, see "Anachronisms".		* Kris is heard playing ''Super Mario Bros.'' on his [[Game Boy]]. However, see "Anachronisms".
	* Noah gives their address as 974 Wilson Avenue in Brooklyn. While the avenue in question exists in reality, the street numbers only reach the 600s.		* Noah gives their address as 974 Wilson Avenue in Brooklyn. While the avenue in question exists in reality, the street numbers only reach the 600s.
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	** When Airazor interrupts the fight, Battletrap and Nightbird are even further behind Scourge in the aerial shot, then are back to being right behind him when the shot changes.		** When Airazor interrupts the fight, Battletrap and Nightbird are even further behind Scourge in the aerial shot, then are back to being right behind him when the shot changes.
	* When Scourge says "Now, to add a Prime to my collection", his claw is both folded in on his arm and deployed at the same time.		* When Scourge says "Now, to add a Prime to my collection", his claw is both folded in on his arm and deployed at the same time.
	* When Mirage attempts to eavesdrop on Noah and Kris' conversation, he is barely tall enough peer into the balcony while standing on a car. However, a minute later when Kris promises him to keep Noah safe he is somehow tall enough to comfortably look into the balcony without anything to stand on.		* When Mirage attempts to eavesdrop on Noah's and Kris's conversation, he is barely tall enough peer into the balcony while standing on a car. However, a minute later when Kris promises him to keep Noah safe he is somehow tall enough to comfortably look into the balcony without anything to stand on.
	* The doors that go onto Wheeljack's back are unmarked brown in the scene of him transforming from van mode, but feature text on them in the very next cut where he is in robot mode.		* The doors that go onto Wheeljack's back are unmarked brown in the scene of him transforming from van mode, but feature text on them in the very next cut where he is in robot mode.
	* When Wheeljack audibly gasps at Noah assuming he can speak Spanish, his mouth is not moving.		* When Wheeljack audibly gasps at Noah assuming he can speak Spanish, his mouth is not moving.
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	[[File:Stevencaplejr autobot cast.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|Hey, you think ''that's'' speed? You ain't seen the Golden Rocket.]]		[[File:Stevencaplejr autobot cast.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|Hey, you think ''that's'' speed? You ain't seen the Golden Rocket.]]
	[[File:Stevencaplejr terrorcon cast.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|Then we will create ''alternate forms'', based on the most powerful local creatures!]]		[[File:Stevencaplejr terrorcon cast.jpg\|thumb\|250px\|Then we will create ''alternate forms'', based on the most powerful local creatures!]]
	* January 27, 2020 — Variety reports two ''Transformers'' films are being penned, to be produced simultaneously: one written by [[James Vanderbilt]], another to be written by [[Joby Harold]].<ref>[https://variety.com/2020/film/news/transformers-franchise-revamp-bumblebee-james-vanderbilt-joby-harold-1203482496/ ~~‘Transformers’~~ Franchise Gets a Revamp With Two Separate Films in the Works] on Variety</ref> Deadline reports that Vanderbilt's script is for a spin-off film based on ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]]'', while Harold's script continues the story from the ''Bumblebee'' film.<ref>[https://deadline.com/2020/01/transformers-movies-paramount-1202843234/ Dual ~~‘Transformers’~~ Movies In The Works At Paramount] on Deadline</ref>		* January 27, 2020 — Variety reports two ''Transformers'' films are being penned, to be produced simultaneously: one written by [[James Vanderbilt]], another to be written by [[Joby Harold]].<ref>[https://variety.com/2020/film/news/transformers-franchise-revamp-bumblebee-james-vanderbilt-joby-harold-1203482496/ 'Transformers' Franchise Gets a Revamp With Two Separate Films in the Works] on Variety</ref> Deadline reports that Vanderbilt's script is for a spin-off film based on ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]]'', while Harold's script continues the story from the ''Bumblebee'' film.<ref>[https://deadline.com/2020/01/transformers-movies-paramount-1202843234/ Dual 'Transformers' Movies In The Works At Paramount] on Deadline</ref>
	* May 2, 2020 — [[Hasbro]] CEO [[Brian Goldner]] confirms that a new Transformers live-action movie is slated for release on [[June 24]], 2022. However, only one between Harold's ''Bumblebee'' sequel and Vanderbilt's ''Beast Wars'' film will make it to production first.		* May 2, 2020 — [[Hasbro]] CEO [[Brian Goldner]] confirms that a new Transformers live-action movie is slated for release on [[June 24]], 2022. However, only one between Harold's ''Bumblebee'' sequel and Vanderbilt's ''Beast Wars'' film will make it to production first.
	* August 21, 2020 — New Republic Pictures is announced as a new co-financier for Paramount in a ten-picture deal in the wake of the success of 2019's ''Rocketman''.<ref>[https://deadline.com/2020/08/paramount-pictures-new-republic-pictures-10-picture-cofinancing-deal-top-gun-maverick-1203018250/ New Republic Pictures Signs 10-Pic Co-Fi Deal With Paramount Pictures; ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ Among Films] on Deadline</ref>		* August 21, 2020 — New Republic Pictures is announced as a new co-financier for Paramount in a ten-picture deal in the wake of the success of 2019's ''Rocketman''.<ref>[https://deadline.com/2020/08/paramount-pictures-new-republic-pictures-10-picture-cofinancing-deal-top-gun-maverick-1203018250/ New Republic Pictures Signs 10-Pic Co-Fi Deal With Paramount Pictures; ‘Top Gun: Maverick’ Among Films] on Deadline</ref>
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	* October 21, 2021 — Cuscopolita reports on the vehicles with the film's Peru crew, confirming the unidentified vehicles as [[Wheeljack (ROTB)\|Wheeljack]] and [[Battletrap (ROTB)\|Battletrap]].<ref>{{citesocial\|link=https://www.facebook.com/cuscopolitamagazine/videos/1941112319403899\|name=Cuscopolita\|site=Facebook\|title=Exclusiva con los Transformers\|year=2021\|month=10\|day=20}}</ref>		* October 21, 2021 — Cuscopolita reports on the vehicles with the film's Peru crew, confirming the unidentified vehicles as [[Wheeljack (ROTB)\|Wheeljack]] and [[Battletrap (ROTB)\|Battletrap]].<ref>{{citesocial\|link=https://www.facebook.com/cuscopolitamagazine/videos/1941112319403899\|name=Cuscopolita\|site=Facebook\|title=Exclusiva con los Transformers\|year=2021\|month=10\|day=20}}</ref>
	* October 22, 2021 — Ramos makes a guest appearance on [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2021]], confirming Cheetor, his favorite ''Beast Wars'' character, will be in the film.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=I am a ''Transformers'' fan, ''Beast Wars'' fan, Cheetor is my #1 favorite of all time, so it's dope to have Cheetor, to be in this movie with Cheetor, it's gonna be crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjtxJqrv-bI&t=6051s\|name=Anthony Ramos\|site=YouTube\|title=Hasbro PulseCon 2021 - DAY ONE\|year=2021\|month=10\|day=22}}</ref>		* October 22, 2021 — Ramos makes a guest appearance on [[Hasbro Pulse Con 2021]], confirming Cheetor, his favorite ''Beast Wars'' character, will be in the film.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=I am a ''Transformers'' fan, ''Beast Wars'' fan, Cheetor is my #1 favorite of all time, so it's dope to have Cheetor, to be in this movie with Cheetor, it's gonna be crazy.\|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjtxJqrv-bI&t=6051s\|name=Anthony Ramos\|site=YouTube\|title=Hasbro PulseCon 2021 - DAY ONE\|year=2021\|month=10\|day=22}}</ref>
	* November 10, 2021 — Paramount announces the film has been delayed to [[June 9]], [[2023]].<ref name="2023release">{{citesocial\|quote=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts has moved back a year and will now bow June 9, 2023. It previously was slated for June 24, 2022.\|link=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-trek-transformers-movie-release-date-1235045937/\|name=Aaron Couch\|site=The Hollywood Reporter\|title=‘Star Trek,’ ~~‘Transformers’~~ Movies Pushed Back at Paramount\|year=2021\|month=11\|day=10}}</ref>		* November 10, 2021 — Paramount announces the film has been delayed to [[June 9]], [[2023]].<ref name="2023release">{{citesocial\|quote=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts has moved back a year and will now bow June 9, 2023. It previously was slated for June 24, 2022.\|link=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-trek-transformers-movie-release-date-1235045937/\|name=Aaron Couch\|site=The Hollywood Reporter\|title=‘Star Trek,’ ‘Transformers' Movies Pushed Back at Paramount\|year=2021\|month=11\|day=10}}</ref>
	* February 15, 2022 — Paramount confirms that ''Rise of the Beasts'' will be the first entry in a trilogy of films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts will be released theatrically in 2023 and is the first of three new installments. A new animated series from @Nickelodeon arrives this fall. And in 2024, the franchise expands further with a CG animated Transformers theatrical film. #ParamountPlus\|link=https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1493706271207292928\|name=Paramount+\|site=Twitter\|year=2022\|month=02\|day=15}}</ref>		* February 15, 2022 — Paramount confirms that ''Rise of the Beasts'' will be the first entry in a trilogy of films.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Transformers: Rise of the Beasts will be released theatrically in 2023 and is the first of three new installments. A new animated series from @Nickelodeon arrives this fall. And in 2024, the franchise expands further with a CG animated Transformers theatrical film. #ParamountPlus\|link=https://twitter.com/paramountplus/status/1493706271207292928\|name=Paramount+\|site=Twitter\|year=2022\|month=02\|day=15}}</ref>
	* October 11, 2022 — Caple Jr. reveals through Instagram that [[Pete Davidson]] is the voice of Mirage, and [[Michelle Yeoh]] is the voice of Airazor.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Sneak peek of Pete voicing Mirage & @michelleyeoh_official blessing us as the voice of Air Razor\|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjlx3PPPC_J/\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=Instagram\|year=2022\|month=10\|day=11}}</ref>		* October 11, 2022 — Caple Jr. reveals through Instagram that [[Pete Davidson]] is the voice of Mirage, and [[Michelle Yeoh]] is the voice of Airazor.<ref>{{citesocial\|quote=Sneak peek of Pete voicing Mirage & @michelleyeoh_official blessing us as the voice of Air Razor\|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjlx3PPPC_J/\|name=Steven Caple Jr.\|site=Instagram\|year=2022\|month=10\|day=11}}</ref>