Transformers Legends (book) - Revision history

Cyberlink420 at 14:49, 4 May 2018

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	To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."		To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."

	Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some ~~[[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass~~\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict... though of course Dreamwave's bankruptcy kinda helped in the end.		Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some {{w\|Cover your ass\|CYA}}, since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict... though of course Dreamwave's bankruptcy kinda helped in the end.

	Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.		Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.

	Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the ~~[[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths~~\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark (story)\|Prime Spark]]", depicts deceased characters from two of those universes dimension-hopping to visit each other and [[Primus]], a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.		Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the {{w\|Crisis on Infinite Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics}}. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark (story)\|Prime Spark]]", depicts deceased characters from two of those universes dimension-hopping to visit each other and [[Primus]], a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.

	For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.		For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.

Mimi at 20:25, 18 July 2014

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	To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."		To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."

	Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some [[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict.		Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some [[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict... though of course Dreamwave's bankruptcy kinda helped in the end.

	Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.		Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.

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Mimi at 07:34, 4 August 2013

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	'''''Transformers Legends''''' is an anthology of [[Transformer]]s short stories published in November 2004 by [[ibooks]]. It was edited by [[David Cian]], who had previously written the second half of ~~the~~ [[~~Keepers~~ Trilogy]].		'''''Transformers Legends''''' is an anthology of [[Transformer]]s short stories published in November 2004 by [[ibooks]]. It was edited by [[David Cian]], who had previously written the second half of ''[[The Transformers Trilogy]]''.

	The book went out of print almost immediately, and for years commanded at ''least'' 4–5 times the original cover price on the secondary market.		The book went out of print almost immediately, and for years commanded at ''least'' 4–5 times the original cover price on the secondary market.

	==Table of ~~Contents~~==		==Table of contents==
	* Introduction by David Cian		* Introduction by David Cian
	* '''[[A Meeting of Minds]]''' by [[Simon Furman]]		* '''[[A Meeting of Minds]]''' by [[Simon Furman]]

Abates: moved Transformers Legends to Transformers Legends (book): Conflicting with the game

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Table of Contents

Starfield: The TOC doesn't have anything to say about continuity. also a little editing.

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The TOC doesn't have anything to say about continuity. also a little editing.

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	\|date=[[November 30]], [[2004]]		\|date=[[November 30]], [[2004]]
	\|editor=[[David Cian]]		\|editor=[[David Cian]]
	\|continuity=Various ~~(see Table of Contents)~~		\|continuity=Various
	\|ISBN=ISBN 0743497910<br>ISBN 978-0743497916		\|ISBN=ISBN 0743497910<br>ISBN 978-0743497916
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	Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.		Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.

	Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the [[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark]]", ~~includes~~ a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.		Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the [[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark (story)\|Prime Spark]]", depicts deceased characters from two of those universes dimension-hopping to visit each other and [[Primus]], a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.

	For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.		For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.

Starfield: Used copies are no longer especially expensive online. Also, I put the quotes in order and expanded them a bit.

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Used copies are no longer especially expensive online. Also, I put the quotes in order and expanded them a bit.

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	'''''Transformers Legends''''' is an anthology of [[Transformer]]s short stories published in November 2004 by [[ibooks]]. It was edited by [[David Cian]], who had previously written the second half of the [[Keepers Trilogy]].		'''''Transformers Legends''''' is an anthology of [[Transformer]]s short stories published in November 2004 by [[ibooks]]. It was edited by [[David Cian]], who had previously written the second half of the [[Keepers Trilogy]].

	The book went out of print almost immediately, and ~~now commands~~ at ''least'' ~~4-5~~ times the original cover price on the secondary market.		The book went out of print almost immediately, and for years commanded at ''least'' 4–5 times the original cover price on the secondary market.

	==Table of Contents==		==Table of Contents==
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	==Continuity==		==Continuity==
	David Cian's 2 page foreword to the anthology includes contradictory statements about the standing of the stories found within~~, on~~ the ~~one hand saying~~:		David Cian's 2 page foreword to the anthology includes contradictory statements about the standing of the stories found within. He first let us know what the ground-rules to the authors were:
	{{quote\|.~~..none~~ of the ~~stories in this volume are part of continuity~~. ~~In other words they don~~'t ~~count for future "facts"~~ in ~~the~~ ''~~Transformers~~'' ~~universe except as they should: these stories are for fun, giving us the chance to read about characters we've come to love~~.\|Cian~~'s explains~~ to ~~readers that none of these stories count~~.}}		{{quote\|The rules, as the saying goes, were simple. Write a ''Transformers'' story set in any of the various timelines or universes. Don't break things, but have fun. Optimus Prime can't show up with a heretofore unknown short-range tactical nuke in his helmet, but he ''can'' have an adventure that no one has ever heard before.\|Cian tells writers to write in existing continuities and be careful not mess anything up.}}

	On the ~~other hand he states that his ground-rules to the authors were;~~		He then concluded the introduction by explaining:
	{{quote\|~~Write a ''Transformers'' story set~~ in ~~any~~ of ~~the various timelines or universes~~. ~~Don~~'t ~~break things, but have fun. Optimus Prime can~~'~~t show up with a heretofore unknown short-range tactical nuke in his helmet, but he~~ ''~~can~~'' ~~have an adventure that no one has ever heard before~~.\|Cian ~~tells writers to write in existing continuities and be careful not mess anything up~~.}}		{{quote\|But remember, none of the stories in this volume are part of continuity. In other words they don't count for future "facts" in the ''Transformers'' universe except as they should: these stories are for fun, giving us the chance to read about characters we've come to love. Enjoy the journey!\|Cian "reminds" readers that none of these stories count.}}

	To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."		To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."

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	* '''[[Singularity Ablyss]]''' by [[Bob Skir\|Robert N. Skir]]		* '''[[Singularity Ablyss]]''' by [[Bob Skir\|Robert N. Skir]]

	:Why ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]''-era Megatron is frickin' ''hardcore''.		:Why ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]''-era Megatron is frickin' ''hardcore''.

	==Continuity==		==Continuity==
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	Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some [[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict.		Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some [[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict.

	Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.		Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.

	Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the [[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Universe (~~2003~~ comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark]]", includes a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.		Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the [[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark]]", includes a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.

	For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.		For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.

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	To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."		To even further confuse the issue, the book's back cover states that its stories are guided by "no hard and fast rules [and] no themes."

	Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some ~~[[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass~~\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict... though of course Dreamwave's bankruptcy kinda helped in the end.		Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some {{w\|Cover your ass\|CYA}}, since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict... though of course Dreamwave's bankruptcy kinda helped in the end.

	Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.		Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.

	Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the ~~[[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths~~\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark (story)\|Prime Spark]]", depicts deceased characters from two of those universes dimension-hopping to visit each other and [[Primus]], a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.		Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the {{w\|Crisis on Infinite Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics}}. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark (story)\|Prime Spark]]", depicts deceased characters from two of those universes dimension-hopping to visit each other and [[Primus]], a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.

	For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.		For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.

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	* '''[[Singularity Ablyss]]''' by [[Bob Skir\|Robert N. Skir]]		* '''[[Singularity Ablyss]]''' by [[Bob Skir\|Robert N. Skir]]

	:Why ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]''-era Megatron is frickin' ''hardcore''.		:Why ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]''-era Megatron is frickin' ''hardcore''.

	==Continuity==		==Continuity==
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	Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some [[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict.		Cian's odd "future facts" phrasing suggests he was doing some [[wikipedia:Cover_your_ass\|CYA]], since at least one of the stories ("[[Two for the Price of One]]") was set in the future of the then-ongoing [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) \|Dreamwave G1 comic]], with no guarantee that the events of the short story would 'fit' when the comic caught up to it. As it happened, there was no conflict.

	Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.		Readers considering Cian's credo may, as always, make up their own minds on the matter of [[authorial intent]]. Many of the stories are easily identifiable as fitting within specific continuities and events already established in other fiction; one of them, "[[Singularity Ablyss]]", occurs seamlessly within a single episode of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'' and was written by [[Bob Skir\|that series' editor]]. Though [[Personal canon\|perspectives differ]], the area of overlap on nearly all of these stories is negligible—that is, they would have no impact on broader continuity even if they had been inserted without any proviso.

	Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the [[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Universe (~~2003~~ comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark]]", includes a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.		Some believe Cian may have been speaking from the perspective that there is a set and specific number of continuities into which all stories had to fit somewhere, similar to the [[wikipedia:Crisis_on_Infinite_Earths\|pre-"Crisis" DC comics]]. This would leave ''Legends'' stories as "imaginary tales," to be enjoyed but not made to fit in, and not "counting" as TF stories — almost as though they were examples of [[pseudocanon]]. This is difficult to reconcile with [[Hasbro]]'s earlier published policy of creating [[Transformers: Universe (comic)\|an all-encompassing multiversal metastory]] in which all TF material from any media are [[Axiom Nexus\|legitimized]], every single one of them recognized as having "happened" somewhere. One ''Legends'' story, "[[Prime Spark]]", includes a [[multiversal singularity]] of precisely this nature.

	For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.		For the sake of practicality and consistency, TFWiki generally ignores the whole "does not count" claim, allowing readers to draw their own conclusions as to whether the stories from the anthology belong in [[Micro-continuity\|micro-continuities]] or applicable parent continuities.

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	==Table of Contents==		==Table of Contents==
	* Introduction by David Cian		* Introduction by David Cian

	* '''[[A Meeting of Minds]]''' by [[Simon Furman]]		* '''[[A Meeting of Minds]]''' by [[Simon Furman]]

	:[[Maximal]] fights Maximal as [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]] fights [[Megatron (BW)\|Megatron]] over a body.		:[[Maximal]] fights Maximal as [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]] fights [[Megatron (BW)\|Megatron]] over a body.

	* '''[[Collect and Save]]''' by [[Tim Waggoner]]		* '''[[Collect and Save]]''' by [[Tim Waggoner]]

	:Welcome to the [[Junkion (planet)\|Planet of Junk]]. You check in, but you don't check out.		:Welcome to the [[Junkion (planet)\|Planet of Junk]]. You check in, but you don't check out.

	* '''[[Paddles (story)\|Paddles]]''' by [[Jean Rabe]]		* '''[[Paddles (story)\|Paddles]]''' by [[Jean Rabe]]

	:The lost [[Dinobot (G1)\|Dinobot]].		:The lost [[Dinobot (G1)\|Dinobot]].

	* '''[[Redemption Center]]''' by [[Alexander B. Potter]]		* '''[[Redemption Center]]''' by [[Alexander B. Potter]]

	:[[Starscream (G1)\|Starscream]] gets to be a nice guy for a little while.		:[[Starscream (G1)\|Starscream]] gets to be a nice guy for a little while.

	* '''[[Something Robotic This Way Comes]]''' by [[John J. Miller]]		* '''[[Something Robotic This Way Comes]]''' by [[John J. Miller]]

	:Trick or... treat? Yeah. Treat. Beep.		:Trick or... treat? Yeah. Treat. Beep.

	* '''[[Two for the Price of One]]''' by [[Brandie Tarvin]]		* '''[[Two for the Price of One]]''' by [[Brandie Tarvin]]

	:Political intrigue in [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya\|Carbombya]].		:Political intrigue in [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya\|Carbombya]].

	* '''[[Joyride (story)\|Joyride]]''' by [[Jenifer A. Ruth]]		* '''[[Joyride (story)\|Joyride]]''' by [[Jenifer A. Ruth]]

	:[[Bumblebee (G1)\|Bumblebee]] gets carjacked. ''Again''. Dude needs to install Lojack or something.		:[[Bumblebee (G1)\|Bumblebee]] gets carjacked. ''Again''. Dude needs to install Lojack or something.

	* '''[[Lonesome Diesel]]''' by [[David Bischoff]]		* '''[[Lonesome Diesel]]''' by [[David Bischoff]]

	:A [[Mini-Con]] schtupps a truck.		:A [[Mini-Con]] schtupps a truck.
			* '''[[Prime Spark (story)\|Prime Spark]]''' by [[Sean P. Fodera]]
	* '''[[Prime Spark]]''' by [[Sean P. Fodera]]

	:Four Optimuses walk into a bar...		:Four Optimuses walk into a bar...

	* '''[[Parts]]''' by [[Donald J. Bingle]]		* '''[[Parts]]''' by [[Donald J. Bingle]]

	:[[Prowl (G1)\|Prowl]] is an insensitive prick. Also, meet [[Geosensus]].		:[[Prowl (G1)\|Prowl]] is an insensitive prick. Also, meet [[Geosensus]].

	* '''[[Healers, Fighters, and Transformers]]''' by [[J. Steven York]]		* '''[[Healers, Fighters, and Transformers]]''' by [[J. Steven York]]

	:[[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] helps a hurtin' human.		:[[Ratchet (G1)\|Ratchet]] helps a hurtin' human.

	* '''[[Fire in the Dark]]''' by [[John Helfers]]		* '''[[Fire in the Dark]]''' by [[John Helfers]]

	:Beast Armada?		:Beast Armada?

	* '''[[Singularity Ablyss]]''' by [[Bob Skir\|Robert N. Skir]]		* '''[[Singularity Ablyss]]''' by [[Bob Skir\|Robert N. Skir]]

	:Why ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]''-era Megatron is frickin' ''hardcore''.		:Why ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]''-era Megatron is frickin' ''hardcore''.