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Saix: /* ''Armada'' Starscream Tl;dr */ clean up, replaced: Alpha Q's Realm → Alpha Q's Realm

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''Armada'' Starscream Tl;dr: clean up, replaced: Alpha Q's Realm → Alpha Q's Realm

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	* As the opening paragraph of this article states, the Starscream of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family\|Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons has probably had one of the most unique storylines given to any character in the entirety of the ''Transformers'' mythos. Here is a ''very'' brief rundown of his character development, ''un''development, and ''re''development throughout the entirety of all three cartoons.		* As the opening paragraph of this article states, the Starscream of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family\|Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons has probably had one of the most unique storylines given to any character in the entirety of the ''Transformers'' mythos. Here is a ''very'' brief rundown of his character development, ''un''development, and ''re''development throughout the entirety of all three cartoons.
	** In ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)\|Armada]]'', Starscream starts out as a very young and brash warrior, trying to prove himself to [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Megatron]], which would often lead to him getting into conflict with his Decepticon peers. Throughout the first several episodes, he spends his time constantly being shot down by his "comrades" every time he tries to prove himself, and is constantly pulled away from getting close to having his own [[Mini-Con]] partner—a dream he has longed for, especially after all of his comrades already had their own. When finally gaining his partner, [[Swindle (Armada)\|Swindle]], he becomes a little egotistical, and overly combative towards his peers—who still don't like him—as well as his enemies. When gaining the [[Star Saber (Armada)\|Star Saber]], Starscream's obnoxious and combative behaviour leads to his teammates turning on him, leaving him alone in the middle of nowhere on [[Earth]] as an inside joke between themselves. Having had enough of his treatment by his "fellow" Decepticons, he steals the Star Saber, and eventually finds himself teaming up with the Autobots. Lost, confused, and vengeful, Starscream—for once in his life—has to find his own path. He forms bonds with the human children, specifically [[Alexis Thi Dang]]. He learns that Mini-Cons have feelings and shouldn't be used as slaves. He learns what true leadership is through [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Optimus Prime]], and what being a ''real'' team is all about through the other Autobots. Then, just when it felt like he was starting to turn a new leaf, temptation and revenge gets the better of him through the sweet whispers of the treacherous Decepticon, [[Thrust (Armada)\|Thrust]] (who, unbeknownst to anyone, had sided with the mysterious [[Unicron]]). Betraying the Autobots, and rejoining the ranks of the Decepticons under the guise of one day getting the opportunity to kill Megatron, he eventually learns of a great truth—the ''very'' real threat of Unicron, whom Megatron (now going by the name Galvatron) believes to be an Autobot hoax. When the Autobots appear to be getting nowhere with convincing Galvatron that they need to join forces to stop Unicron, Starscream steps into the middle of a fight between Galvatron and Optimus Prime to prove a point. Using every last ounce of his power, he sacrifices himself in an attempt to prove Unicron's existence to Galvatron, seemingly knowing Unicron would retaliate against the blast. Galvatron and Optimus Prime then set aside their differences temporarily to stop the looming threat of Unicron, in honor of Starscream's heroic sacrifice.		** In ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)\|Armada]]'', Starscream starts out as a very young and brash warrior, trying to prove himself to [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Megatron]], which would often lead to him getting into conflict with his Decepticon peers. Throughout the first several episodes, he spends his time constantly being shot down by his "comrades" every time he tries to prove himself, and is constantly pulled away from getting close to having his own [[Mini-Con]] partner—a dream he has longed for, especially after all of his comrades already had their own. When finally gaining his partner, [[Swindle (Armada)\|Swindle]], he becomes a little egotistical, and overly combative towards his peers—who still don't like him—as well as his enemies. When gaining the [[Star Saber (Armada)\|Star Saber]], Starscream's obnoxious and combative behaviour leads to his teammates turning on him, leaving him alone in the middle of nowhere on [[Earth]] as an inside joke between themselves. Having had enough of his treatment by his "fellow" Decepticons, he steals the Star Saber, and eventually finds himself teaming up with the Autobots. Lost, confused, and vengeful, Starscream—for once in his life—has to find his own path. He forms bonds with the human children, specifically [[Alexis Thi Dang]]. He learns that Mini-Cons have feelings and shouldn't be used as slaves. He learns what true leadership is through [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Optimus Prime]], and what being a ''real'' team is all about through the other Autobots. Then, just when it felt like he was starting to turn a new leaf, temptation and revenge gets the better of him through the sweet whispers of the treacherous Decepticon, [[Thrust (Armada)\|Thrust]] (who, unbeknownst to anyone, had sided with the mysterious [[Unicron]]). Betraying the Autobots, and rejoining the ranks of the Decepticons under the guise of one day getting the opportunity to kill Megatron, he eventually learns of a great truth—the ''very'' real threat of Unicron, whom Megatron (now going by the name Galvatron) believes to be an Autobot hoax. When the Autobots appear to be getting nowhere with convincing Galvatron that they need to join forces to stop Unicron, Starscream steps into the middle of a fight between Galvatron and Optimus Prime to prove a point. Using every last ounce of his power, he sacrifices himself in an attempt to prove Unicron's existence to Galvatron, seemingly knowing Unicron would retaliate against the blast. Galvatron and Optimus Prime then set aside their differences temporarily to stop the looming threat of Unicron, in honor of Starscream's heroic sacrifice.
	** Fast forward ten years into the future with ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)\|Energon]]'', [[Alpha Quintesson\|Alpha Q]]—having discovered the power of Unicron and the way to revive all that have been consumed or destroyed at his hand—rebuilds Starscream into a new body to use as a spy and a mercenary, against the Autobots and the Decepticons. However, during the rebuilding process, Alpha Q runs out of energon, resulting in Starscream only being partially rebuilt, while also leaving him without any of the memories of his past life. Alpha Q promises to one day finish rebuilding Starscream, and sends him away to do his bidding. Using his new ghostly invisibility and phasing abilities (a side effect of his partial rebuilding), he becomes a pretty useful spy. When the reborn Megatron discovers him spying one day, he tortures him and wipes his current memories, taking control of the unfinished Starscream, making him a seemingly mindless drone. Doing everything Megatron asks, he unwittingly risks his life on countless occasions, such as the time Megatron told him to enter into the [[Super Energon]] pool, to see if it would either kill him or upgrade him. Eventually, Megatron (going by Galvatron once again)—combined with Unicron, goes completely nuts and power-hungry, and absorbs Starscream to become the ultimate evil in the universe. When they're stopped by the Autobots, what was left of Galvatron, Unicron and Starscream gets swallowed into a new sun for the planets in [[Alpha Q's ~~Realm~~]].		** Fast forward ten years into the future with ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)\|Energon]]'', [[Alpha Quintesson\|Alpha Q]]—having discovered the power of Unicron and the way to revive all that have been consumed or destroyed at his hand—rebuilds Starscream into a new body to use as a spy and a mercenary, against the Autobots and the Decepticons. However, during the rebuilding process, Alpha Q runs out of energon, resulting in Starscream only being partially rebuilt, while also leaving him without any of the memories of his past life. Alpha Q promises to one day finish rebuilding Starscream, and sends him away to do his bidding. Using his new ghostly invisibility and phasing abilities (a side effect of his partial rebuilding), he becomes a pretty useful spy. When the reborn Megatron discovers him spying one day, he tortures him and wipes his current memories, taking control of the unfinished Starscream, making him a seemingly mindless drone. Doing everything Megatron asks, he unwittingly risks his life on countless occasions, such as the time Megatron told him to enter into the [[Super Energon]] pool, to see if it would either kill him or upgrade him. Eventually, Megatron (going by Galvatron once again)—combined with Unicron, goes completely nuts and power-hungry, and absorbs Starscream to become the ultimate evil in the universe. When they're stopped by the Autobots, what was left of Galvatron, Unicron and Starscream gets swallowed into a new sun for the planets in [[Alpha Q's universe]].
	** Another ten years later in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'', the sun that Starscream, Unicron and Megatron formed implodes, and becomes [[Unicron Singularity\|a giant black hole]] that threatens the entire universe and [[Multiverse\|several other realities]]. Freed from their prison, Megatron, Starscream and Unicron are all reborn! Having lost his physical and mental restraints from Megatron's previous form that stopped him from being an individual, and becoming a product of what Megatron made him, Starscream becomes a power-hungry traitor, that wants nothing more than to be the leader of the Decepticons, and to be the eventual ruler of the universe. Obviously he doesn't get this far, but he does become pretty powerful along his journey, and even gets into hand-to-hand combat with [[Primus]] at one point!		** Another ten years later in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'', the sun that Starscream, Unicron and Megatron formed implodes, and becomes [[Unicron Singularity\|a giant black hole]] that threatens the entire universe and [[Multiverse\|several other realities]]. Freed from their prison, Megatron, Starscream and Unicron are all reborn! Having lost his physical and mental restraints from Megatron's previous form that stopped him from being an individual, and becoming a product of what Megatron made him, Starscream becomes a power-hungry traitor, that wants nothing more than to be the leader of the Decepticons, and to be the eventual ruler of the universe. Obviously he doesn't get this far, but he does become pretty powerful along his journey, and even gets into hand-to-hand combat with [[Primus]] at one point!
	: So there you have it, the Tl;dr of Starscream's journey that is recounted further up in this article. While the three cartoons don't always line up entirely due to dubbing issues, and the disconnecting and reconnecting of continuity between ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' (due to the way the production of ''Galaxy Force'' was handled by [[TakaraTomy\|Takara]] in Japan), Starscream's character arc is pretty consistent overall—even with ''Energon''{{'}}s habit of wiping every characters' mind in some way for seemingly no reason—his eventual turn out in ''Cybertron'' works, since he basically becomes a product of what Megatron made him.		: So there you have it, the Tl;dr of Starscream's journey that is recounted further up in this article. While the three cartoons don't always line up entirely due to dubbing issues, and the disconnecting and reconnecting of continuity between ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' (due to the way the production of ''Galaxy Force'' was handled by [[TakaraTomy\|Takara]] in Japan), Starscream's character arc is pretty consistent overall—even with ''Energon''{{'}}s habit of wiping every characters' mind in some way for seemingly no reason—his eventual turn out in ''Cybertron'' works, since he basically becomes a product of what Megatron made him.

Saix: /* Repurposing box sample */clean up, replaced: Finale Part 2 → Finale

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	*''Shattered Glass'' [[Bludgeon (SG)\|Bludgeon]] — via "[[Dungeons & Dinobots\|Dungeons & Dinobots]]"		*''Shattered Glass'' [[Bludgeon (SG)\|Bludgeon]] — via "[[Dungeons & Dinobots\|Dungeons & Dinobots]]"

	*Precursor World [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale ~~Part 2~~\|Finale Part 2]]"		*Precursor World [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale\|Finale Part 2]]"

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			==''Armada'' Starscream Tl;dr==
			* As the opening paragraph of this article states, the Starscream of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family\|Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons has probably had one of the most unique storylines given to any character in the entirety of the ''Transformers'' mythos. Here is a ''very'' brief rundown of his character development, ''un''development, and ''re''development throughout the entirety of all three cartoons.
			** In ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)\|Armada]]'', Starscream starts out as a very young and brash warrior, trying to prove himself to [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Megatron]], which would often lead to him getting into conflict with his Decepticon peers. Throughout the first several episodes, he spends his time constantly being shot down by his "comrades" every time he tries to prove himself, and is constantly pulled away from getting close to having his own [[Mini-Con]] partner—a dream he has longed for, especially after all of his comrades already had their own. When finally gaining his partner, [[Swindle (Armada)\|Swindle]], he becomes a little egotistical, and overly combative towards his peers—who still don't like him—as well as his enemies. When gaining the [[Star Saber (Armada)\|Star Saber]], Starscream's obnoxious and combative behaviour leads to his teammates turning on him, leaving him alone in the middle of nowhere on [[Earth]] as an inside joke between themselves. Having had enough of his treatment by his "fellow" Decepticons, he steals the Star Saber, and eventually finds himself teaming up with the Autobots. Lost, confused, and vengeful, Starscream—for once in his life—has to find his own path. He forms bonds with the human children, specifically [[Alexis Thi Dang]]. He learns that Mini-Cons have feelings and shouldn't be used as slaves. He learns what true leadership is through [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Optimus Prime]], and what being a ''real'' team is all about through the other Autobots. Then, just when it felt like he was starting to turn a new leaf, temptation and revenge gets the better of him through the sweet whispers of the treacherous Decepticon, [[Thrust (Armada)\|Thrust]] (who, unbeknownst to anyone, had sided with the mysterious [[Unicron]]). Betraying the Autobots, and rejoining the ranks of the Decepticons under the guise of one day getting the opportunity to kill Megatron, he eventually learns of a great truth—the ''very'' real threat of Unicron, whom Megatron (now going by the name Galvatron) believes to be an Autobot hoax. When the Autobots appear to be getting nowhere with convincing Galvatron that they need to join forces to stop Unicron, Starscream steps into the middle of a fight between Galvatron and Optimus Prime to prove a point. Using every last ounce of his power, he sacrifices himself in an attempt to prove Unicron's existence to Galvatron, seemingly knowing Unicron would retaliate against the blast. Galvatron and Optimus Prime then set aside their differences temporarily to stop the looming threat of Unicron, in honor of Starscream's heroic sacrifice.
			** Fast forward ten years into the future with ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)\|Energon]]'', [[Alpha Quintesson\|Alpha Q]]—having discovered the power of Unicron and the way to revive all that have been consumed or destroyed at his hand—rebuilds Starscream into a new body to use as a spy and a mercenary, against the Autobots and the Decepticons. However, during the rebuilding process, Alpha Q runs out of energon, resulting in Starscream only being partially rebuilt, while also leaving him without any of the memories of his past life. Alpha Q promises to one day finish rebuilding Starscream, and sends him away to do his bidding. Using his new ghostly invisibility and phasing abilities (a side effect of his partial rebuilding), he becomes a pretty useful spy. When the reborn Megatron discovers him spying one day, he tortures him and wipes his current memories, taking control of the unfinished Starscream, making him a seemingly mindless drone. Doing everything Megatron asks, he unwittingly risks his life on countless occasions, such as the time Megatron told him to enter into the [[Super Energon]] pool, to see if it would either kill him or upgrade him. Eventually, Megatron (going by Galvatron once again)—combined with Unicron, goes completely nuts and power-hungry, and absorbs Starscream to become the ultimate evil in the universe. When they're stopped by the Autobots, what was left of Galvatron, Unicron and Starscream gets swallowed into a new sun for the planets in [[Alpha Q's Realm]].
			** Another ten years later in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'', the sun that Starscream, Unicron and Megatron formed implodes, and becomes [[Unicron Singularity\|a giant black hole]] that threatens the entire universe and [[Multiverse\|several other realities]]. Freed from their prison, Megatron, Starscream and Unicron are all reborn! Having lost his physical and mental restraints from Megatron's previous form that stopped him from being an individual, and becoming a product of what Megatron made him, Starscream becomes a power-hungry traitor, that wants nothing more than to be the leader of the Decepticons, and to be the eventual ruler of the universe. Obviously he doesn't get this far, but he does become pretty powerful along his journey, and even gets into hand-to-hand combat with [[Primus]] at one point!
			: So there you have it, the Tl;dr of Starscream's journey that is recounted further up in this article. While the three cartoons don't always line up entirely due to dubbing issues, and the disconnecting and reconnecting of continuity between ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' (due to the way the production of ''Galaxy Force'' was handled by [[TakaraTomy\|Takara]] in Japan), Starscream's character arc is pretty consistent overall—even with ''Energon''{{'}}s habit of wiping every characters' mind in some way for seemingly no reason—his eventual turn out in ''Cybertron'' works, since he basically becomes a product of what Megatron made him.

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	~~=Character model overhaul=~~
	~~==Creation==~~
	In the developmental stages of ''[[The Transformers (franchise)\|The Transformers]]'' franchise, pre-dating [[The Transformers (cartoon)\|the original cartoon]] and [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)\|ongoing comic series]], the very first ''Transformers'' character designs were created by [[TakaraTomy\|Takara]] artist [[Shōhei Kohara]] based on the Takara products [[Hasbro]] was [[Pre-Transformer\|given licensing rights to reproduce]]. It is unclear just how many designs he was responsible for creating, but he is credited as the creator of the original eight designs, these being: [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Optimus Prime]], [[Sideswipe (G1)\|Sideswipe]], [[Jazz (G1)\|Jazz]], [[Prowl (G1)\|Prowl]], [[Megatron (G1)\|Megatron]], [[Soundwave (G1)\|Soundwave]], [[Laserbeak (G1)\|Laserbeak]], and the shared [[Seeker (body-type)\|Seeker]] body-type. These eight designs would later be refined by [[Floro Dery]] for the original [[1984]] ''Transformers'' commercials and subsequently refined several more times before being utilized in the animated series itself.

	Floro Dery's modifications included the removal of wheels and the enlargement of the characters' heads, and the more extreme redesign of Megatron to better resemble his toy. Dery went on to become the primary ''named'' designer for the majority of the cartoon, with evidence that he created a few of the remaining 1984 character models using the toy's [[package art]] for reference.<ref>[http://zobovor.tripod.com/models.html Zobovor traces the ancestry of select 1984 character models to the toys' boxart]</ref> All of the 1984 character artwork for both the cartoon and package art were designed using photos of the toys themselves, often times being in the original Japanese decos, which were compiled into briefing binders that were given out to just about every company involved in the initial steps of developing the franchise. Among these companies, aiding in the creation of all character models for the cartoon, were [[Marvel Productions]] and [[Toei Animation]]. Most steps to developing character models from this point onwards consisted of Floro Dery and Marvel Productions creating the majority of initial designs with Toei requesting or making tweaks to these designs and having several moments of handing material and notes back-and-forth between the companies until the desired final design was reached. As Toei dealt with the bulk of animation duties, they often times had the last say. It also appears that there was quite a disconnect between the two companies and when a set of models would be finalized for animation, as all character models given to [[Marvel Comics]]' staff for use in the original ongoing comic series were never final models, suggesting that Toei would make drastic alterations at the last minute and never provided the finalized set to Marvel. Evidence would also suggest that Toei was largely incharge of rear-view models, this became more apparent as time went on.

	In [[1985]], model production for season 2 was largely the same as before, only this time Hasbro evidently provided less photos of toys in their briefing binders, with toys taken on front-facing 3/4 angles in both robot and vehicle mode, leaving Dery and the other designers to try to interpret what they could with these visible details, often leading to [[kibble]] that is supposed to be on their backs being attached to random places such as their arms and legs. While these models adhered closer to toy-accuracy when compared to some of the models from the previous year, the lack of rear-view photos of the toys also led the designers to make up entire rear-views for the characters that were often times completely wrong (see "[[#Design oddities\|Design oddities]]" below). A fair amount of models for season 3 also suffered from these same issues.

	In [[1986]], ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', flipped the sequence of events around, with all the new cast members being developed by Dery, with his designs subsequently translated into toy form. While Dery got to pour his heart and soul into all of these original character designs, Toei would ultimately once again have the final say as to what would appear in the film and the then-upcoming season of the cartoon. Not even ''one'' of Dery's initial designs appears in the final film. While the previous cartoon seasons saw Toei providing minor tweaks to Dery and Marvel Productions' designs (e.g. a new head design, maybe some details removed, etc.), Toei would ultimately use his models as more or less a basis and design entirely new models from scratch, often times with a much larger {{w\|mecha}}-style influence, similar to the character models for the ever-popular ''{{w\|Gundam}}'' franchise cartoons of the time, an aesthetic that would become much more apparent in the Japanese series' continuations (more on that below).

	By season 3, Floro Dery had ultimately left the franchise, and the bulk of character model designs for the remaining 1986 and early [[1987]] toys were being heavily reworked based on Marvel Productions' designs, much like the cast of the movie were with Dery's designs. Like the movie, a noticeable shift in aesthetics started to become more apparent in some of the season 3 model designs too; namely the [[Predacon (G1)\|Predacons]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)\|Sky Lynx]], who featured squared hands and had their rear-view models drawn on some hard 3/4 angles that looked up at them from the ground, with massive black comic-like shadows cast under them and inside their vent-like greebles on their bodies—both aesthetics being entirely absent in all previous Dery and Marvel Productions designs. From this point, the status quo really gets a shake up.

	In 1987, the US cartoon's three-part episode "[[The Rebirth]]" was entirely animated by [[AKOM]], as Toei had split off and started working on ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)\|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a Japanese-only spin-off of the US cartoon. Much like previous seasons, the models were first designed by Marvel Productions—but unlike the seasons before it—Toei didn't have a say in the design process, so everything that appeared in "The Rebirth" was solely US-based and no major overhauls ever took place. Toei ''did'' still have access to some of the first few Marvel Productions' model designs for the [[Headmaster (technology)\|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster (technology)\|Targetmasters]], but ultimately created their own original model designs to fill in the missing models they received from Marvel. As mentioned further up in this section regarding Toei seemingly being the sole designers of rear-view models, this became more apparent in season 3 and "The Rebirth" as none of the Marvel Productions-only materials ever had rear-view models drawn in any of their modes. In season 3, characters like [[Octane]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)\|Terrorcons]] lacked rear-views altogether, and so animators made up rear-views as they went, leading to no two episodes having the same rear designs for these characters. The same happened with "The Rebirth". If you pay close attention, the majority of newly introduced characters in the short-lived "fourth season" face the front almost the entire time!

	With ''The Transformers'' cartoon being completely over at this point, the Japanese side of the franchise continued producing loosely-tied sequel cartoons, with [[Masumi Kaneda]] and [[Ban Magami]] taking over on a lot of the character design for both the subsequent Japanese cartoons and its related and semi-related media (''see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)\|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]''). On the US side, however, Marvel Productions continued producing ''some'' character models for toy and Marvel comic commercials up until around [[1990]], but the Marvel comic artists themselves seemingly started producing their own character models where necessary, and taking concept art from Takara designers such as [[Masakatsu Saito]], to use as character models for characters such as the [[1988]] [[Decepticon]] [[Pretender]]s, likely to save on time and money. It was pretty clear by around 1988 that all design collaborations between Marvel Productions and Toei had ceased entirely, with Toei only working on the toy commercial animations with whatever was provided by Marvel.

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	By season 3, Floro Dery had ultimately left the franchise, and the bulk of character model designs for the remaining 1986 and early [[1987]] toys were being heavily reworked based on Marvel Productions' designs, much like the cast of the movie were with Dery's designs. Like the movie, a noticeable shift in aesthetics started to become more apparent in some of the season 3 model designs too; namely the [[Predacon (G1)\|Predacons]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)\|Sky Lynx]], who featured squared hands and had their rear-view models drawn on some hard 3/4 angles that looked up at them from the ground, with massive black comic-like shadows cast under them and inside their vent-like greebles on their bodies—both aesthetics being entirely absent in all previous Dery and Marvel Productions designs. From this point, the status quo really gets a shake up.		By season 3, Floro Dery had ultimately left the franchise, and the bulk of character model designs for the remaining 1986 and early [[1987]] toys were being heavily reworked based on Marvel Productions' designs, much like the cast of the movie were with Dery's designs. Like the movie, a noticeable shift in aesthetics started to become more apparent in some of the season 3 model designs too; namely the [[Predacon (G1)\|Predacons]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)\|Sky Lynx]], who featured squared hands and had their rear-view models drawn on some hard 3/4 angles that looked up at them from the ground, with massive black comic-like shadows cast under them and inside their vent-like greebles on their bodies—both aesthetics being entirely absent in all previous Dery and Marvel Productions designs. From this point, the status quo really gets a shake up.

	In 1987, the US cartoon's three-part episode "[[The Rebirth]]" was entirely animated by [[AKOM]], as Toei had split off and started working on ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)\|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a Japanese-only spin-off of the US cartoon. Much like previous seasons, the models were first designed by Marvel Productions—but unlike the seasons before it—Toei didn't have a say in the design process, so everything that appeared in "The Rebirth" was solely US-based and no major overhauls ever took place. Toei ''did'' still have access to some of the first few Marvel Productions' model designs for the [[Headmaster (technology)\|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster (technology)\|Targetmasters]], but ultimately created their own original model designs to fill in the missing models they received from Marvel. As mentioned further up in this section regarding Toei seemingly being the sole designers of rear-view models, this became more apparent in season 3 and "The Rebirth" as none of the Marvel Productions-only materials ever had rear-view models drawn in any of their modes. In season 3, characters like [[Octane]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)\|Terrorcons]] lacked rear-views altogether, and so animators made up rear-views as they went, leading to no two episodes having the same rear designs for these characters. The same happened with "The Rebirth". If you pay close attention, the majority of newly introduced characters face the front almost the entire time!		In 1987, the US cartoon's three-part episode "[[The Rebirth]]" was entirely animated by [[AKOM]], as Toei had split off and started working on ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)\|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a Japanese-only spin-off of the US cartoon. Much like previous seasons, the models were first designed by Marvel Productions—but unlike the seasons before it—Toei didn't have a say in the design process, so everything that appeared in "The Rebirth" was solely US-based and no major overhauls ever took place. Toei ''did'' still have access to some of the first few Marvel Productions' model designs for the [[Headmaster (technology)\|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster (technology)\|Targetmasters]], but ultimately created their own original model designs to fill in the missing models they received from Marvel. As mentioned further up in this section regarding Toei seemingly being the sole designers of rear-view models, this became more apparent in season 3 and "The Rebirth" as none of the Marvel Productions-only materials ever had rear-view models drawn in any of their modes. In season 3, characters like [[Octane]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)\|Terrorcons]] lacked rear-views altogether, and so animators made up rear-views as they went, leading to no two episodes having the same rear designs for these characters. The same happened with "The Rebirth". If you pay close attention, the majority of newly introduced characters in the short-lived "fourth season" face the front almost the entire time!

	With ''The Transformers'' cartoon being completely over at this point, the Japanese side of the franchise continued producing loosely-tied sequel cartoons, with [[Masumi Kaneda]] and [[Ban Magami]] taking over on a lot of the character design for both the subsequent Japanese cartoons and its related and semi-related media (''see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)\|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]''). On the US side, however, Marvel Productions continued producing ''some'' character models for toy and Marvel comic commercials up until around [[1990]], but the Marvel comic artists themselves seemingly started producing their own character models where necessary, and taking concept art from Takara designers such as [[Masakatsu Saito]], to use as character models for characters such as the [[1988]] [[Decepticon]] [[Pretender]]s, likely to save on time and money. It was pretty clear by around 1988 that all design collaborations between Marvel Productions and Toei had ceased entirely, with Toei only working on the toy commercial animations.		With ''The Transformers'' cartoon being completely over at this point, the Japanese side of the franchise continued producing loosely-tied sequel cartoons, with [[Masumi Kaneda]] and [[Ban Magami]] taking over on a lot of the character design for both the subsequent Japanese cartoons and its related and semi-related media (''see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)\|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]''). On the US side, however, Marvel Productions continued producing ''some'' character models for toy and Marvel comic commercials up until around [[1990]], but the Marvel comic artists themselves seemingly started producing their own character models where necessary, and taking concept art from Takara designers such as [[Masakatsu Saito]], to use as character models for characters such as the [[1988]] [[Decepticon]] [[Pretender]]s, likely to save on time and money. It was pretty clear by around 1988 that all design collaborations between Marvel Productions and Toei had ceased entirely, with Toei only working on the toy commercial animations with whatever was provided by Marvel.

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	*Precursor World [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Part 2\|~~''Generations Selects Special Comic'' ~~Finale Part 2]]"		*Precursor World [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Part 2\|Finale Part 2]]"

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	*~~''Generations~~ ~~Selects Special Comic''~~ [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Part 2\|Finale Part 2]]"		*Precursor World [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Part 2\|''Generations Selects Special Comic'' Finale Part 2]]"

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	*''Generations Selects Special Comic'' [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]]		*''Generations Selects Special Comic'' [[Yellow Megatron\|Yellow Megatron]] — via "[[Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Part 2\|Finale Part 2]]"

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	Several episodes have moments where dialogue in the ''Energon'' version of the cartoon was either poorly translated or made up on the fly without proper translations. To help alleviate some of the confusion and to accurately convey what is ''actually'' happening on-screen contrary to the what the English dub's dialogue says, some of our episode summaries have minor key moments or details from ''Super Link'' inserted into them (with a note at the top of the "Synopsis" section to let you know which ones), to paint a better picture of what's really going on, as some of these missing pieces of dialogue from the English dub are alluded to in future episodes, despite them "never happening".		Several episodes have moments where dialogue in the ''Energon'' version of the cartoon was either poorly translated or made up on the fly without proper translations. To help alleviate some of the confusion and to accurately convey what is ''actually'' happening on-screen contrary to the what the English dub's dialogue says, some of our episode summaries have minor key moments or details from ''Super Link'' inserted into them (with a note at the top of the "Synopsis" section to let you know which ones), to paint a better picture of what's really going on, as some of these missing pieces of dialogue from the English dub are alluded to in future episodes, despite them "never happening".


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	* As the opening paragraph of this article states, the Starscream of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family\|Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons has probably had one of the most unique storylines given to any character in the entirety of the ''Transformers'' mythos. Here is a ''very'' brief rundown of his character development, ''un''development, and ''re''development throughout the entirety of all three cartoons.		* As the opening paragraph of this article states, the Starscream of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family\|Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons has probably had one of the most unique storylines given to any character in the entirety of the ''Transformers'' mythos. Here is a ''very'' brief rundown of his character development, ''un''development, and ''re''development throughout the entirety of all three cartoons.
	** In ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)\|Armada]]'', Starscream starts out as a very young and brash warrior, trying to prove himself to [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Megatron]], which would often lead to him getting into conflict with his Decepticon peers. Throughout the first several episodes, he spends his time constantly being shot down by his "comrades" every time he tries to prove himself, and is constantly pulled away from getting close to having his own [[Mini-Con]] partner—a dream he has longed for, especially after all of his comrades already had their own. When finally gaining his partner, [[Swindle (Armada)\|Swindle]], he becomes a little egotistical, and overly combative towards his peers—who still don't like him—as well as his enemies. When gaining the [[Star Saber (Armada)\|Star Saber]], Starscream's obnoxious and combative behaviour leads to his teammates turning on him, leaving him alone in the middle of nowhere on [[Earth]] as an inside joke between themselves. Having had enough of his treatment by his "fellow" Decepticons, he steals the Star Saber, and eventually finds himself teaming up with the Autobots. Lost, confused, and vengeful, Starscream—for once in his life—has to find his own path. He forms bonds with the human children, specifically [[Alexis Thi Dang]]. He learns that Mini-Cons have feelings and shouldn't be used as slaves. He learns what true leadership is through [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Optimus Prime]], and what being a ''real'' team is all about through the other Autobots. Then, just when it felt like he was starting to turn a new leaf, temptation and revenge gets the better of him through the sweet whispers of the treacherous Decepticon, [[Thrust (Armada)\|Thrust]] (who, unbeknownst to anyone, had sided with the mysterious [[Unicron]]). Betraying the Autobots, and rejoining the ranks of the Decepticons under the guise of one day getting the opportunity to kill Megatron, he eventually learns of a great truth—the ''very'' real threat of Unicron, whom Megatron (now going by the name Galvatron) believes to be an Autobot hoax. When the Autobots appear to be getting nowhere with convincing Galvatron that they need to join forces to stop Unicron, Starscream steps into the middle of a fight between Galvatron and Optimus Prime to prove a point. Using every last ounce of his power, he sacrifices himself in an attempt to prove Unicron's existence to Galvatron, seemingly knowing Unicron would retaliate against the blast. Galvatron and Optimus Prime then set aside their differences temporarily to stop the looming threat of Unicron, in honor of Starscream's heroic sacrifice.		** In ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)\|Armada]]'', Starscream starts out as a very young and brash warrior, trying to prove himself to [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Megatron]], which would often lead to him getting into conflict with his Decepticon peers. Throughout the first several episodes, he spends his time constantly being shot down by his "comrades" every time he tries to prove himself, and is constantly pulled away from getting close to having his own [[Mini-Con]] partner—a dream he has longed for, especially after all of his comrades already had their own. When finally gaining his partner, [[Swindle (Armada)\|Swindle]], he becomes a little egotistical, and overly combative towards his peers—who still don't like him—as well as his enemies. When gaining the [[Star Saber (Armada)\|Star Saber]], Starscream's obnoxious and combative behaviour leads to his teammates turning on him, leaving him alone in the middle of nowhere on [[Earth]] as an inside joke between themselves. Having had enough of his treatment by his "fellow" Decepticons, he steals the Star Saber, and eventually finds himself teaming up with the Autobots. Lost, confused, and vengeful, Starscream—for once in his life—has to find his own path. He forms bonds with the human children, specifically [[Alexis Thi Dang]]. He learns that Mini-Cons have feelings and shouldn't be used as slaves. He learns what true leadership is through [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity\|Optimus Prime]], and what being a ''real'' team is all about through the other Autobots. Then, just when it felt like he was starting to turn a new leaf, temptation and revenge gets the better of him through the sweet whispers of the treacherous Decepticon, [[Thrust (Armada)\|Thrust]] (who, unbeknownst to anyone, had sided with the mysterious [[Unicron]]). Betraying the Autobots, and rejoining the ranks of the Decepticons under the guise of one day getting the opportunity to kill Megatron, he eventually learns of a great truth—the ''very'' real threat of Unicron, whom Megatron (now going by the name Galvatron) believes to be an Autobot hoax. When the Autobots appear to be getting nowhere with convincing Galvatron that they need to join forces to stop Unicron, Starscream steps into the middle of a fight between Galvatron and Optimus Prime to prove a point. Using every last ounce of his power, he sacrifices himself in an attempt to prove Unicron's existence to Galvatron, seemingly knowing Unicron would retaliate against the blast. Galvatron and Optimus Prime then set aside their differences temporarily to stop the looming threat of Unicron, in honor of Starscream's heroic sacrifice.
	** Fast forward ten years into the future with ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)\|Energon]]'', [[Alpha Quintesson\|Alpha Q]]—having discovered the power of Unicron and the way to revive all that have been consumed or destroyed at his hand—rebuilds Starscream into a new body to use as a spy and a mercenary, against the Autobots and the Decepticons. However, during the rebuilding process, Alpha Q runs out of energon, resulting in Starscream only being partially rebuilt, while also leaving him without any of the memories of his past life. Alpha Q promises to one day finish rebuilding Starscream, and sends him away to do his bidding. Using his new ghostly invisibility and phasing abilities (a side effect of his partial rebuilding), he becomes a pretty useful spy. When the reborn Megatron discovers him spying one day, he tortures him and wipes his current memories, taking control of the unfinished Starscream, making him a seemingly mindless drone. Doing everything Megatron asks, he unwittingly risks his life on countless occasions, such as the time Megatron told him to enter into the [[Super Energon]] pool, to see if it would either kill him or upgrade him. Eventually, Megatron (going by Galvatron once again)—combined with Unicron, goes completely nuts and power-hungry, and absorbs Starscream to become the ultimate evil in the universe. When they're stopped by the Autobots, what was left of Galvatron, Unicron and Starscream gets swallowed into a new sun for the planets in [[Alpha Q's ~~Realm~~]].		** Fast forward ten years into the future with ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)\|Energon]]'', [[Alpha Quintesson\|Alpha Q]]—having discovered the power of Unicron and the way to revive all that have been consumed or destroyed at his hand—rebuilds Starscream into a new body to use as a spy and a mercenary, against the Autobots and the Decepticons. However, during the rebuilding process, Alpha Q runs out of energon, resulting in Starscream only being partially rebuilt, while also leaving him without any of the memories of his past life. Alpha Q promises to one day finish rebuilding Starscream, and sends him away to do his bidding. Using his new ghostly invisibility and phasing abilities (a side effect of his partial rebuilding), he becomes a pretty useful spy. When the reborn Megatron discovers him spying one day, he tortures him and wipes his current memories, taking control of the unfinished Starscream, making him a seemingly mindless drone. Doing everything Megatron asks, he unwittingly risks his life on countless occasions, such as the time Megatron told him to enter into the [[Super Energon]] pool, to see if it would either kill him or upgrade him. Eventually, Megatron (going by Galvatron once again)—combined with Unicron, goes completely nuts and power-hungry, and absorbs Starscream to become the ultimate evil in the universe. When they're stopped by the Autobots, what was left of Galvatron, Unicron and Starscream gets swallowed into a new sun for the planets in [[Alpha Q's universe]].
	** Another ten years later in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'', the sun that Starscream, Unicron and Megatron formed implodes, and becomes [[Unicron Singularity\|a giant black hole]] that threatens the entire universe and [[Multiverse\|several other realities]]. Freed from their prison, Megatron, Starscream and Unicron are all reborn! Having lost his physical and mental restraints from Megatron's previous form that stopped him from being an individual, and becoming a product of what Megatron made him, Starscream becomes a power-hungry traitor, that wants nothing more than to be the leader of the Decepticons, and to be the eventual ruler of the universe. Obviously he doesn't get this far, but he does become pretty powerful along his journey, and even gets into hand-to-hand combat with [[Primus]] at one point!		** Another ten years later in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)\|Cybertron]]'', the sun that Starscream, Unicron and Megatron formed implodes, and becomes [[Unicron Singularity\|a giant black hole]] that threatens the entire universe and [[Multiverse\|several other realities]]. Freed from their prison, Megatron, Starscream and Unicron are all reborn! Having lost his physical and mental restraints from Megatron's previous form that stopped him from being an individual, and becoming a product of what Megatron made him, Starscream becomes a power-hungry traitor, that wants nothing more than to be the leader of the Decepticons, and to be the eventual ruler of the universe. Obviously he doesn't get this far, but he does become pretty powerful along his journey, and even gets into hand-to-hand combat with [[Primus]] at one point!
	: So there you have it, the Tl;dr of Starscream's journey that is recounted further up in this article. While the three cartoons don't always line up entirely due to dubbing issues, and the disconnecting and reconnecting of continuity between ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' (due to the way the production of ''Galaxy Force'' was handled by [[TakaraTomy\|Takara]] in Japan), Starscream's character arc is pretty consistent overall—even with ''Energon''{{'}}s habit of wiping every characters' mind in some way for seemingly no reason—his eventual turn out in ''Cybertron'' works, since he basically becomes a product of what Megatron made him.		: So there you have it, the Tl;dr of Starscream's journey that is recounted further up in this article. While the three cartoons don't always line up entirely due to dubbing issues, and the disconnecting and reconnecting of continuity between ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' (due to the way the production of ''Galaxy Force'' was handled by [[TakaraTomy\|Takara]] in Japan), Starscream's character arc is pretty consistent overall—even with ''Energon''{{'}}s habit of wiping every characters' mind in some way for seemingly no reason—his eventual turn out in ''Cybertron'' works, since he basically becomes a product of what Megatron made him.

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	By season 3, Floro Dery had ultimately left the franchise, and the bulk of character model designs for the remaining 1986 and early [[1987]] toys were being heavily reworked based on Marvel Productions' designs, much like the cast of the movie were with Dery's designs. Like the movie, a noticeable shift in aesthetics started to become more apparent in some of the season 3 model designs too; namely the [[Predacon (G1)\|Predacons]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)\|Sky Lynx]], who featured squared hands and had their rear-view models drawn on some hard 3/4 angles that looked up at them from the ground, with massive black comic-like shadows cast under them and inside their vent-like greebles on their bodies—both aesthetics being entirely absent in all previous Dery and Marvel Productions designs. From this point, the status quo really gets a shake up.		By season 3, Floro Dery had ultimately left the franchise, and the bulk of character model designs for the remaining 1986 and early [[1987]] toys were being heavily reworked based on Marvel Productions' designs, much like the cast of the movie were with Dery's designs. Like the movie, a noticeable shift in aesthetics started to become more apparent in some of the season 3 model designs too; namely the [[Predacon (G1)\|Predacons]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)\|Sky Lynx]], who featured squared hands and had their rear-view models drawn on some hard 3/4 angles that looked up at them from the ground, with massive black comic-like shadows cast under them and inside their vent-like greebles on their bodies—both aesthetics being entirely absent in all previous Dery and Marvel Productions designs. From this point, the status quo really gets a shake up.

	In 1987, the US cartoon's three-part episode "[[The Rebirth]]" was entirely animated by [[AKOM]], as Toei had split off and started working on ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)\|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a Japanese-only spin-off of the US cartoon. Much like previous seasons, the models were first designed by Marvel Productions—but unlike the seasons before it—Toei didn't have a say in the design process, so everything that appeared in "The Rebirth" was solely US-based and no major overhauls ever took place. Toei ''did'' still have access to some of the first few Marvel Productions' model designs for the [[Headmaster (technology)\|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster (technology)\|Targetmasters]], but ultimately created their own original model designs to fill in the missing models they received from Marvel. As mentioned further up in this section regarding Toei seemingly being the sole designers of rear-view models, this became more apparent in season 3 and "The Rebirth" as none of the Marvel Productions-only materials ever had rear-view models drawn in any of their modes. In season 3, characters like [[Octane]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)\|Terrorcons]] lacked rear-views altogether, and so animators made up rear-views as they went, leading to no two episodes having the same rear designs for these characters. The same happened with "The Rebirth". If you pay close attention, the majority of newly introduced characters face the front almost the entire time!		In 1987, the US cartoon's three-part episode "[[The Rebirth]]" was entirely animated by [[AKOM]], as Toei had split off and started working on ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)\|Transformers: The Headmasters]]'', a Japanese-only spin-off of the US cartoon. Much like previous seasons, the models were first designed by Marvel Productions—but unlike the seasons before it—Toei didn't have a say in the design process, so everything that appeared in "The Rebirth" was solely US-based and no major overhauls ever took place. Toei ''did'' still have access to some of the first few Marvel Productions' model designs for the [[Headmaster (technology)\|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster (technology)\|Targetmasters]], but ultimately created their own original model designs to fill in the missing models they received from Marvel. As mentioned further up in this section regarding Toei seemingly being the sole designers of rear-view models, this became more apparent in season 3 and "The Rebirth" as none of the Marvel Productions-only materials ever had rear-view models drawn in any of their modes. In season 3, characters like [[Octane]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)\|Terrorcons]] lacked rear-views altogether, and so animators made up rear-views as they went, leading to no two episodes having the same rear designs for these characters. The same happened with "The Rebirth". If you pay close attention, the majority of newly introduced characters in the short-lived "fourth season" face the front almost the entire time!

	With ''The Transformers'' cartoon being completely over at this point, the Japanese side of the franchise continued producing loosely-tied sequel cartoons, with [[Masumi Kaneda]] and [[Ban Magami]] taking over on a lot of the character design for both the subsequent Japanese cartoons and its related and semi-related media (''see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)\|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]''). On the US side, however, Marvel Productions continued producing ''some'' character models for toy and Marvel comic commercials up until around [[1990]], but the Marvel comic artists themselves seemingly started producing their own character models where necessary, and taking concept art from Takara designers such as [[Masakatsu Saito]], to use as character models for characters such as the [[1988]] [[Decepticon]] [[Pretender]]s, likely to save on time and money. It was pretty clear by around 1988 that all design collaborations between Marvel Productions and Toei had ceased entirely, with Toei only working on the toy commercial animations.		With ''The Transformers'' cartoon being completely over at this point, the Japanese side of the franchise continued producing loosely-tied sequel cartoons, with [[Masumi Kaneda]] and [[Ban Magami]] taking over on a lot of the character design for both the subsequent Japanese cartoons and its related and semi-related media (''see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)\|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]''). On the US side, however, Marvel Productions continued producing ''some'' character models for toy and Marvel comic commercials up until around [[1990]], but the Marvel comic artists themselves seemingly started producing their own character models where necessary, and taking concept art from Takara designers such as [[Masakatsu Saito]], to use as character models for characters such as the [[1988]] [[Decepticon]] [[Pretender]]s, likely to save on time and money. It was pretty clear by around 1988 that all design collaborations between Marvel Productions and Toei had ceased entirely, with Toei only working on the toy commercial animations with whatever was provided by Marvel.