User:Giggidy/Sandbox/Multi-Family Character - Revision history

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	In the beginning, there was [[The Transformers (franchise)\|The Transformers]]. There were multiple branches and even significant differences between characters [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|from one continuity]] to [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|another]], but there was one franchise in the west. In time, it would come to be called [[Generation 1 continuity family\|Generation 1]]. Japan, in 1987, began to introduce new franchises, starting with [[Transformers: The Headmasters (franchise)\|The Headmasters]] and continuing on with many more, but each subsequent franchise was related to what had gone before. They all fell under the overarching umbrella of what we of the wiki would eventually come to call a '''[[continuity family]]'''. Eventually the west adopted a similar attitude, starting with [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]] and continuing through [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]. Each of these disparate franchises shared a common lore, a lore originating in Generation 1.		In the beginning, there was [[The Transformers (franchise)\|The Transformers]]. There were multiple branches and even significant differences between characters [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|from one continuity]] to [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|another]], but there was one franchise in the west. In time, it would come to be called [[Generation 1 continuity family\|Generation 1]]. Japan, in 1987, began to introduce new franchises, starting with [[Transformers: The Headmasters (franchise)\|The Headmasters]] and continuing on with many more, but each subsequent franchise was related to what had gone before. They all fell under the overarching umbrella of what we of the wiki would eventually come to call a '''[[continuity family]]'''. Eventually the west adopted a similar attitude, starting with [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]] and continuing through [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]. Each of these disparate franchises shared a common lore, a lore originating in Generation 1.

	In 2001, that began to change. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)\|Robots in Disguise]], the English-language dub of Car Robots (itself an ambiguously-placed series, later clarified as a definitively Japanese G1 series) was changed in a number of ways that made it fundamentally incompatible with the lore that had gone before. Names reuse began in a serious way, with some applied to characters [[Grimlock (RID)\|completely unlike]] their Generation 1 counterparts. This trend continued with the next new reboot, the [[Unicron Trilogy]], starting with [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)\|Armada]]. Ironhide could now be [[Ironhide (Armada)\|a female Mini-Con]] and then, in the sequel series, a different Ironhide could be [[Ironhide (Energon)\|a young doofus]].		In 2001, that began to change. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)\|Robots in Disguise]], the English-language dub of Car Robots (itself an ambiguously-placed series, later clarified as a definitively Japanese G1 series) was changed in a number of ways that made it fundamentally incompatible with the lore that had gone before. Names reuse began in a serious way, with some applied to characters [[Grimlock (RID 2001)\|completely unlike]] their Generation 1 counterparts. This trend continued with the next new reboot, the [[Unicron Trilogy]], starting with [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)\|Armada]]. Ironhide could now be [[Ironhide (Armada)\|a female Mini-Con]] and then, in the sequel series, a different Ironhide could be [[Ironhide (Energon)\|a young doofus]].

	In response, the Wiki adopted as a useful organizational element, formalizing the idea of "[[continuity family\|continuity families]]". Though there are multiple distinct franchise within Generation 1 as well as within the Unicron Trilogy, they're all related in some way, all tying together in a loose overall mythology. This model continued to work well as the reboots continued, starting with [[Transformers Animated (franchise)\|Transformers Animated]] and the [[Live-action film series]]. Each newly rebooted "continuity family" introducing its own shared aesthetic, mythology, and theme. The concept of "continuity families" even bled into [[universal stream\|official fiction]] to a certain extent, though it remained primarily a wiki-defined organizational scheme, a useful model for taxonomy.		In response, the Wiki adopted as a useful organizational element, formalizing the idea of "[[continuity family\|continuity families]]". Though there are multiple distinct franchise within Generation 1 as well as within the Unicron Trilogy, they're all related in some way, all tying together in a loose overall mythology. This model continued to work well as the reboots continued, starting with [[Transformers Animated (franchise)\|Transformers Animated]] and the [[Live-action film series]]. Each newly rebooted "continuity family" introducing its own shared aesthetic, mythology, and theme. The concept of "continuity families" even bled into [[universal stream\|official fiction]] to a certain extent, though it remained primarily a wiki-defined organizational scheme, a useful model for taxonomy.

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	A '''Multi-family Character''' is a character who exists more-or-less unchanged across multiple [[continuity family\|continuity families]].		A '''Multi-family Character''' is a character who exists more-or-less unchanged across multiple [[continuity family\|continuity families]].

	{{quote\|A being can exist, fundamentally unaltered, in multiple streams and even multiple clusters. Have you not observed it to be so? Have you not noticed the enormous similarities between, say, the Knock Out of Primax 1005.19 Gamma and the Knock Out of Uniend 911.05 Alpha? Or the Sky-Byte of Viron 901.8 Alpha and the Sky-Byte of Primax 509.28 Epsilon? Or many of the Lugnuts, or Lockdowns. I could go on, but I trust my point is made?\|[[~~Vector Prime (Cybertron)\|~~Vector Prime]]}}		{{quote\|A being can exist, fundamentally unaltered, in multiple streams and even multiple clusters. Have you not observed it to be so? Have you not noticed the enormous similarities between, say, the Knock Out of Primax 1005.19 Gamma and the Knock Out of Uniend 911.05 Alpha? Or the Sky-Byte of Viron 901.8 Alpha and the Sky-Byte of Primax 509.28 Epsilon? Or many of the Lugnuts, or Lockdowns. I could go on, but I trust my point is made?\|[[Vector Prime]]}}

	==Conceptual history==		==Conceptual history==
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	Cracks in the organizational structure began appearing with the introduction of the [[Aligned continuity family]]. Hasbro, for the first time, began trying to present a unified vision of the brand moving. The [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] bios and videos were a good example of that, with elements taken from multiple incarnations of a character. On some level, it was becoming clear, Hasbro considered [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Optimus Prime]] to be [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|Optimus Prime]] to be [[Optimus Prime (Animated)\|Optimus Prime]] in a way that the wiki did not. Notably, the practice of name-slapping was toned down. Once a character became established, future versions of that character in new franchises were much more likely to draw from the same elements and archetypes.		Cracks in the organizational structure began appearing with the introduction of the [[Aligned continuity family]]. Hasbro, for the first time, began trying to present a unified vision of the brand moving. The [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] bios and videos were a good example of that, with elements taken from multiple incarnations of a character. On some level, it was becoming clear, Hasbro considered [[Optimus Prime (G1)\|Optimus Prime]] to be [[Optimus Prime (Armada)\|Optimus Prime]] to be [[Optimus Prime (Animated)\|Optimus Prime]] in a way that the wiki did not. Notably, the practice of name-slapping was toned down. Once a character became established, future versions of that character in new franchises were much more likely to draw from the same elements and archetypes.

	Aesthetic elements, too, became more flexible. The gritty movie-inspired CGI of [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)\|Transformers Prime]] could now coexist with the much lighter [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)\|Robots in Disguise]] and [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)\|Rescue Bots]]. Now, [[Lockdown (G1)\|a movie design]] might not feel out of place in a Generation 1 universe, even as [[~~Blackarachnia_~~(BW)#~~IDW_Generation_1_continuity~~\|an Animated design]] might not look out of place in the same universe.		Aesthetic elements, too, became more flexible. The gritty movie-inspired CGI of [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)\|Transformers Prime]] could now coexist with the much lighter [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)\|Robots in Disguise]] and [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (franchise)\|Rescue Bots]]. Now, [[Lockdown (G1)\|a movie design]] might not feel out of place in a Generation 1 universe, even as [[Blackarachnia (BW)#IDW Generation 1 continuity\|an Animated design]] might not look out of place in the same universe.

	The fiction, too, updated to reflect this changing landscape. [[Ask Vector Prime]] would note that [[Arcana\|certain characters]] exist in multiple "reality clusters," the in-fiction analog to a continuity family. [[Aurex 1104.30-JH Zeta\|Other streams]] were noted to be on the borderline between one cluster and another, to the point where they could go either way. Some universes even existed in [[Primax 610.17 Kappa\|two clusters]] [[Primax 400.05 Alpha\|simultaneously]], which [[~~Vector Prime (Cybertron)\|~~Vector Prime]] indicated was rare but not unheard of.		The fiction, too, updated to reflect this changing landscape. [[Ask Vector Prime]] would note that [[Arcana\|certain characters]] exist in multiple "reality clusters," the in-fiction analog to a continuity family. [[Aurex 1104.30-JH Zeta\|Other streams]] were noted to be on the borderline between one cluster and another, to the point where they could go either way. Some universes even existed in [[Primax 610.17 Kappa\|two clusters]] [[Primax 400.05 Alpha\|simultaneously]], which [[Vector Prime]] indicated was rare but not unheard of.

	All of which, in turn, resulted in a great increase in frequency of a character in one continuity family showing up in another virtually unchanged. Though Hasbro does not consider this to be particularly noteworthy, we of the wiki choose to track such instances as examples of '''Multi-family characters'''.		All of which, in turn, resulted in a great increase in frequency of a character in one continuity family showing up in another virtually unchanged. Though Hasbro does not consider this to be particularly noteworthy, we of the wiki choose to track such instances as examples of '''Multi-family characters'''.
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	==See also==		==See also==
	* [[Repurposing]]		*[[Repurposing]]
	* [[User:Giggidy/Sandbox/Multi-Family Toys\|Multi-Family Toys]]		*[[User:Giggidy/Sandbox/Multi-Family Toys\|Multi-Family Toys]]

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	* [[Repurposing]]		* [[Repurposing]]
	* [[User:Giggidy/Sandbox/Multi-Family Toys\|Multi-Family Toys]]		* [[User:Giggidy/Sandbox/Multi-Family Toys\|Multi-Family Toys]]

	~~[[Category:Multi-family characters]]~~

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	==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==		==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==

	*[[Primacron ~~(G1)~~]], ~~[[Primacron (~~Animated~~)]],~~ and ~~the [[Unicron Trilogy]] Primacron~~		*[[Primacron]], who exists in the Animated and Generation 1 continuity families.
	*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.		*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.
	*[[Arcana]] and [[Hi-Q]], who have counterparts in the Unicron Trilogy		*[[Arcana]] and [[Hi-Q]], who have counterparts in the Unicron Trilogy
			*[[Turtler]], who has Generation 1 and [[TransTech]] incarnations
	*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.		*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.
	*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exist in a brick-based world but also represent a G1, Movie, or Aligned character		*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exist in a brick-based world but also represent a G1, Movie, or Aligned character

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	==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==		==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==

	*''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|Lockdown]] and [[Lockdown (G1)\|''Generation 1'' Lockdown]]. {{storylink\|Drift issue 2}}
	*[[Primacron (G1)]], [[Primacron (Animated)]], and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] Primacron		*[[Primacron (G1)]], [[Primacron (Animated)]], and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] Primacron
	*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.		*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.

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	*[[Arcana]] and [[Hi-Q]], who have counterparts in the Unicron Trilogy		*[[Arcana]] and [[Hi-Q]], who have counterparts in the Unicron Trilogy
	*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.		*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.
	*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which ~~exists~~ in a brick-based world but also ~~represents~~ a G1, Movie, or Aligned character		*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exist in a brick-based world but also represent a G1, Movie, or Aligned character

	==See also==		==See also==

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Notes

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	*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.		*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.
	*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exists in a brick-based world but also represents a G1, Movie, or Aligned character		*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exists in a brick-based world but also represents a G1, Movie, or Aligned character

	~~==Notes==~~
	*Individual fans often unofficially, within their [[personal canon]], use a toy in multiple continuity families. This works especially well when toys import previous versions of a character to a new continuity. An example could be using [[Movie (toyline)\|Movie]] [[Big Daddy (Movie)\|Big Daddy]] as Generation 1 [[Big Daddy (G1)\|Big Daddy]], or even Prime Big Daddy.

	==See also==		==See also==

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	==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==		==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==

	*''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ~~Deluxe~~ [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|Lockdown]] and [[Lockdown (G1)\|''Generation 1'' Lockdown]]. {{storylink\|Drift issue 2}}		*''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|Lockdown]] and [[Lockdown (G1)\|''Generation 1'' Lockdown]]. {{storylink\|Drift issue 2}}
	*[[~~Banzai-Tron~~ (G1)]] ~~and~~ [[~~Transformers~~ (~~2010 toyline~~)]] ~~[[Live-action film series\|movie]] [[Banzaitron]] {{storylink\|Transformers Legends (mobile game)}}~~		*[[Primacron (G1)]], [[Primacron (Animated)]], and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] Primacron
	*[[Lugnut (WFC)\|''Aligned'' Lugnut]] and ~~[[Reveal~~ the ~~Shield]] Movie~~ [[~~Lugnut (TF 2010)\|Lugnut~~]] ~~{{Storylink\|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus}}~~
	*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.		*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.
			*[[Arcana]] and [[Hi-Q]], who have counterparts in the Unicron Trilogy
	*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.		*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.
	*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exists in a brick-based world but also represents a G1, Movie, or Aligned character		*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exists in a brick-based world but also represents a G1, Movie, or Aligned character

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	A '''Multi-family Character''' is a character who exists more-or-less unchanged across multiple [[continuity family\|continuity families]].		A '''Multi-family Character''' is a character who exists more-or-less unchanged across multiple [[continuity family\|continuity families]].

			{{quote\|A being can exist, fundamentally unaltered, in multiple streams and even multiple clusters. Have you not observed it to be so? Have you not noticed the enormous similarities between, say, the Knock Out of Primax 1005.19 Gamma and the Knock Out of Uniend 911.05 Alpha? Or the Sky-Byte of Viron 901.8 Alpha and the Sky-Byte of Primax 509.28 Epsilon? Or many of the Lugnuts, or Lockdowns. I could go on, but I trust my point is made?\|[[Vector Prime (Cybertron)\|Vector Prime]]}}

	==Conceptual history==		==Conceptual history==

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	All of which, in turn, resulted in a great increase in frequency of a character in one continuity family showing up in another virtually unchanged. Though Hasbro does not consider this to be particularly noteworthy, we of the wiki choose to track such instances as examples of '''Multi-family characters'''.		All of which, in turn, resulted in a great increase in frequency of a character in one continuity family showing up in another virtually unchanged. Though Hasbro does not consider this to be particularly noteworthy, we of the wiki choose to track such instances as examples of '''Multi-family characters'''.

	==Examples of official Multi-family ~~toys~~==		==Examples of official Multi-family Characters==

	*''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Deluxe [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|Lockdown]] as [[Lockdown (G1)\|''Generation 1'' Lockdown]]. {{storylink\|Drift issue 2}}		*''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)\|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Deluxe [[Lockdown (ROTF)\|Lockdown]] and [[Lockdown (G1)\|''Generation 1'' Lockdown]]. {{storylink\|Drift issue 2}}
	*[[Banzai-Tron (G1)]] ~~from~~ [[Transformers (2010 toyline)]] [[Live-action film series\|movie]] [[Banzaitron]] {{storylink\|Transformers Legends (mobile game)}}		*[[Banzai-Tron (G1)]] and [[Transformers (2010 toyline)]] [[Live-action film series\|movie]] [[Banzaitron]] {{storylink\|Transformers Legends (mobile game)}}
	*[[Lugnut (WFC)\|''Aligned'' Lugnut]] ~~from~~ [[Reveal the Shield]] Movie [[Lugnut (TF 2010)\|Lugnut]] {{Storylink\|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus}}		*[[Lugnut (WFC)\|''Aligned'' Lugnut]] and [[Reveal the Shield]] Movie [[Lugnut (TF 2010)\|Lugnut]] {{Storylink\|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus}}
	*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.		*Hordes of [[Mini-Con]]s as [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] universe.
	*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.		*Every character from the first [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)\|Robots in Disguise]] cartoon, by virtue of it existing simultaneously as its own continuity family and as a part of Generation 1.
	*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exists in a brick-based world but also represents a G1, Movie, or Aligned ~~toy~~		*Virtually every [[Kre-O]] toy, which exists in a brick-based world but also represents a G1, Movie, or Aligned character

	==Notes==		==Notes==

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	In the beginning, there was [[The Transformers (franchise)\|The Transformers]]. There were multiple branches and even significant differences between characters [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|from one continuity]] to [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|another]], but there was one franchise in the west. In time, it would come to be called [[Generation 1 continuity family\|Generation 1]]. Japan, in 1987, began to introduce new franchises, starting with [[Transformers: The Headmasters (franchise)\|The Headmasters]] and continuing on with many more, but each subsequent franchise was related to what had gone before. They all fell under the overarching umbrella of what we of the wiki would eventually come to call a '''[[continuity family]]'''. Eventually the west adopted a similar attitude, starting with [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]] and continuing through [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]. Each of these disparate franchises shared a common lore, a lore originating in Generation 1.		In the beginning, there was [[The Transformers (franchise)\|The Transformers]]. There were multiple branches and even significant differences between characters [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|from one continuity]] to [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity\|another]], but there was one franchise in the west. In time, it would come to be called [[Generation 1 continuity family\|Generation 1]]. Japan, in 1987, began to introduce new franchises, starting with [[Transformers: The Headmasters (franchise)\|The Headmasters]] and continuing on with many more, but each subsequent franchise was related to what had gone before. They all fell under the overarching umbrella of what we of the wiki would eventually come to call a '''[[continuity family]]'''. Eventually the west adopted a similar attitude, starting with [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)\|Generation 2]] and continuing through [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)\|Beast Machines]]. Each of these disparate franchises shared a common lore, a lore originating in Generation 1.

	In 2001, that began to change. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)\|Robots in Disguise]], the English-language dub of Car Robots (itself an ambiguously-placed series, later clarified as a definitively Japanese G1 series) was changed in a number of ways that made it fundamentally incompatible with the lore that had gone before. Names reuse began in a serious way, with some applied to characters [[Grimlock (RID)\|completely unlike]] their Generation 1 counterparts. This trend continued with the next new reboot, the [[Unicron Trilogy]], starting with [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)\|Armada]]. Ironhide could now be [[Ironhide (Armada)\|a female Mini-Con]] and then, in the sequel series, a different Ironhide could be [[Ironhide (Energon)\|a young doofus]].		In 2001, that began to change. [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)\|Robots in Disguise]], the English-language dub of Car Robots (itself an ambiguously-placed series, later clarified as a definitively Japanese G1 series) was changed in a number of ways that made it fundamentally incompatible with the lore that had gone before. Names reuse began in a serious way, with some applied to characters [[Grimlock (RID 2001)\|completely unlike]] their Generation 1 counterparts. This trend continued with the next new reboot, the [[Unicron Trilogy]], starting with [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)\|Armada]]. Ironhide could now be [[Ironhide (Armada)\|a female Mini-Con]] and then, in the sequel series, a different Ironhide could be [[Ironhide (Energon)\|a young doofus]].

	In response, the Wiki adopted as a useful organizational element, formalizing the idea of "[[continuity family\|continuity families]]". Though there are multiple distinct franchise within Generation 1 as well as within the Unicron Trilogy, they're all related in some way, all tying together in a loose overall mythology. This model continued to work well as the reboots continued, starting with [[Transformers Animated (franchise)\|Transformers Animated]] and the [[Live-action film series]]. Each newly rebooted "continuity family" introducing its own shared aesthetic, mythology, and theme. The concept of "continuity families" even bled into [[universal stream\|official fiction]] to a certain extent, though it remained primarily a wiki-defined organizational scheme, a useful model for taxonomy.		In response, the Wiki adopted as a useful organizational element, formalizing the idea of "[[continuity family\|continuity families]]". Though there are multiple distinct franchise within Generation 1 as well as within the Unicron Trilogy, they're all related in some way, all tying together in a loose overall mythology. This model continued to work well as the reboots continued, starting with [[Transformers Animated (franchise)\|Transformers Animated]] and the [[Live-action film series]]. Each newly rebooted "continuity family" introducing its own shared aesthetic, mythology, and theme. The concept of "continuity families" even bled into [[universal stream\|official fiction]] to a certain extent, though it remained primarily a wiki-defined organizational scheme, a useful model for taxonomy.