User:Locoman/Sandbox/TFRomance - Revision history

BerylRoll at 15:17, 12 May 2026

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn (BW)\|Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla (BW)\|Scylla]], [[Scuba (BW)\|Scuba]], and [[Bighorn (BW)\|Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	Author [[James Roberts]] has commented that, while Transformers ''don't'' have relationships in exactly the same way humans do, "Chromedome and Rewind each regard the other as the most important person in their life."<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=12651&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 James Roberts on Chromedome and Rewind on the IDW forums]</ref> [[Hasbro]] proved "supportive and indeed encouraging" of IDW's efforts. <ref>[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ Moonbase2's second interview with James Roberts - 01:40:47 to 01:41:24]</ref> Other notable male romances from this period include [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Cyclonus]] and [[Tailgate (G1)\|Tailgate]], [[Needlenose (G1)\|Needlenose]] and [[Horri-Bull]], and [[Knock Out (G1)\|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (IDW)\|Breakdown]]—this last pairing likely a wink to those fans of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|Prime]]'' cartoon who interpreted the relationship between [[Knock Out (Prime)\|their]] [[Breakdown (WFC)\|counterparts]] as romantic.		Author [[James Roberts]] has commented that, while Transformers ''don't'' have relationships in exactly the same way humans do, "Chromedome and Rewind each regard the other as the most important person in their life."<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=12651&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 James Roberts on Chromedome and Rewind on the IDW forums]</ref> [[Hasbro]] proved "supportive and indeed encouraging" of IDW's efforts. <ref>[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ Moonbase2's second interview with James Roberts - 01:40:47 to 01:41:24]</ref> Other notable male romances from this period include [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Cyclonus]] and [[Tailgate (G1)\|Tailgate]], [[Needlenose (G1)\|Needlenose]] and [[Horri-Bull]], and [[Knock Out (G1)\|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (IDW)\|Breakdown]]—this last pairing likely a wink to those fans of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|Prime]]'' cartoon who interpreted the relationship between [[Knock Out (Prime)\|their]] [[Breakdown (WFC)\|counterparts]] as romantic.

	As author [[Simon Furman]] initially spearheaded the development of the [[2005 IDW continuity]] under the assumption that Transformers were a naturally "genderless" race who happened to use male pronouns, it took longer before future authors were able to find a way to introduce a sufficient number of [[female Transformer]]s to balance things out. In 2016, ''[[Transformers: Lost Light\|Lost Light]]'' debuted [[Lug (IDW)\|Lug]] and [[Anode]], a pair of transgender female Cybertronians who had fallen in love, and 2018's ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)\|Optimus Prime]]'' comic had [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Arcee]] confess her feelings for [[Aileron]] with a passionate [[kiss]] after Aileron saved her from falling to her death.		As author [[Simon Furman]] initially spearheaded the development of the [[2005 IDW continuity]] under the assumption that Transformers were a naturally "genderless" race who happened to use male pronouns, it took longer before future authors were able to find a way to introduce a sufficient number of [[female Transformer]]s to balance things out. In 2016, ''[[The Transformers: Lost Light\|Lost Light]]'' debuted [[Lug (IDW)\|Lug]] and [[Anode]], a pair of transgender female Cybertronians who had fallen in love, and 2018's ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)\|Optimus Prime]]'' comic had [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Arcee]] confess her feelings for [[Aileron]] with a passionate [[kiss]] after Aileron saved her from falling to her death.

	==Sex==		==Sex==

BerylRoll at 22:06, 10 May 2026

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn (BW)\|Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	Following on from this, 1986's ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' introduced [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] as the franchise's first major female character and established up a quasi-romantic dynamic between film protagonist [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Hot Rod]] and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Arcee]], though season three of the cartoon saw Arcee transfer her affections to swashbuckling hero [[Springer (G1)\|Springer]] instead. The Marvel comic, on the other hand, continued to shy away from anything approaching romance; indeed, [[Recipe for Disaster!\|issue #53]] of the comic had a terrified [[Cloudburst]] narrowly avoid an intimate encounter with the organic [[First One]]—fooled by the outer appearance of his [[Pretender]] shell—by explaining that his race had "no men, no women, no mates". (He got decapitated for his troubles anyway.)		Following on from this, 1986's ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' introduced [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] as the franchise's first major female character and established up a quasi-romantic dynamic between film protagonist [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Hot Rod]] and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Arcee]], though season three of the cartoon saw Arcee transfer her affections to swashbuckling hero [[Springer (G1)\|Springer]] instead. The Marvel comic, on the other hand, continued to shy away from anything approaching romance; indeed, [[Recipe for Disaster!\|issue #53]] of the comic had a terrified [[Cloudburst]] narrowly avoid an intimate encounter with the organic [[First One]]—fooled by the outer appearance of his [[Pretender]] shell—by explaining that his race had "no men, no women, no mates". (He got decapitated for his troubles anyway.)

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	Until recently, same-gender interests between Transformers were comparatively rare and not treated seriously. Of course, ''Transformers'' above all exists [[to sell toys]] to children and so has to play in on the wishes and expectations of the assumed general audience. Even if this attitude has greatly improved in the last few years, heterosexuality is still the default assumption and least controversial option in all-ages fiction. However, the [[IDW Publishing\|IDW]] comics, which utilize a less stringently-monitored medium to entertain an older audience, received more leeway to do as they ~~pleased~~. Thus, in 2012, ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye\|More than Meets the Eye]]'' made history by revealing that the male Transformers [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Chromedome]] and [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Rewind]] shared a committed, loving relationship, a marriage-like bond that the comic dubbed a "Conjunx Endura". Subsequent issues would reveal that the pair had previously romanced other Transformers, and that their romantic bond was a normal, accepted part of Cybertronian culture.		Until recently, same-gender interests between Transformers were comparatively rare and not treated seriously. Of course, ''Transformers'' above all exists [[to sell toys]] to children and so has to play in on the wishes and expectations of the assumed general audience. Even if this attitude has greatly improved in the last few years, heterosexuality is still the default assumption and least controversial option in all-ages fiction. However, the [[IDW Publishing\|IDW]] comics, which utilize a less stringently-monitored medium to entertain an older audience, has received more leeway to do as they please. Thus, in 2012, ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye\|More than Meets the Eye]]'' made history by revealing that the male Transformers [[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Chromedome]] and [[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Rewind]] shared a committed, loving relationship, a marriage-like bond that the comic dubbed a "Conjunx Endura". Subsequent issues would reveal that the pair had previously romanced other Transformers, and that their romantic bond was a normal, accepted part of Cybertronian culture.

	Author [[James Roberts]] has commented that, while Transformers ''don't'' have relationships in exactly the same way humans do, "Chromedome and Rewind each regard the other as the most important person in their life."<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=12651&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 James Roberts on Chromedome and Rewind on the IDW forums]</ref> [[Hasbro]] proved "supportive and indeed encouraging" of IDW's efforts. <ref>[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ Moonbase2's second interview with James Roberts - 01:40:47 to 01:41:24]</ref> Other notable male romances from this period include [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Cyclonus]] and [[Tailgate (G1)\|Tailgate]], [[Needlenose (G1)\|Needlenose]] and [[Horri-Bull]], and [[Knock Out (G1)\|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (IDW)\|Breakdown]]—this last pairing likely a wink to those fans of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|Prime]]'' cartoon who interpreted the relationship between [[Knock Out (Prime)\|their]] [[Breakdown (WFC)\|counterparts]] as romantic.		Author [[James Roberts]] has commented that, while Transformers ''don't'' have relationships in exactly the same way humans do, "Chromedome and Rewind each regard the other as the most important person in their life."<ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=12651&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20 James Roberts on Chromedome and Rewind on the IDW forums]</ref> [[Hasbro]] proved "supportive and indeed encouraging" of IDW's efforts. <ref>[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ Moonbase2's second interview with James Roberts - 01:40:47 to 01:41:24]</ref> Other notable male romances from this period include [[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity\|Cyclonus]] and [[Tailgate (G1)\|Tailgate]], [[Needlenose (G1)\|Needlenose]] and [[Horri-Bull]], and [[Knock Out (G1)\|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (IDW)\|Breakdown]]—this last pairing likely a wink to those fans of the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)\|Prime]]'' cartoon who interpreted the relationship between [[Knock Out (Prime)\|their]] [[Breakdown (WFC)\|counterparts]] as romantic.

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene.		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

Locoman at 21:30, 11 June 2020

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			==References==
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Conceptual origins

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original ~~romantic~~ intent for the scene.		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene.

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron (BW)\|Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	Following on from this, 1986's ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' introduced [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] as the franchise's first major female character and established up a quasi-romantic dynamic between film protagonist [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Hot Rod]] and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Arcee]], though season three of the cartoon saw Arcee transfer her affections to swashbuckling hero [[Springer (G1)\|Springer]] instead. The Marvel comic, on the other hand, continued to shy away from anything approaching romance; indeed, [[Recipe for Disaster!\|issue #53]] of the comic had a terrified [[Cloudburst]] narrowly avoid an intimate encounter with the organic [[First One]]—fooled by the outer appearance of his [[Pretender]] shell—by explaining that his race had "no men, no women, no mates". (He got decapitated for his troubles anyway.)		Following on from this, 1986's ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' introduced [[Arcee (G1)\|Arcee]] as the franchise's first major female character and established up a quasi-romantic dynamic between film protagonist [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Hot Rod]] and [[Arcee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity\|Arcee]], though season three of the cartoon saw Arcee transfer her affections to swashbuckling hero [[Springer (G1)\|Springer]] instead. The Marvel comic, on the other hand, continued to shy away from anything approaching romance; indeed, [[Recipe for Disaster!\|issue #53]] of the comic had a terrified [[Cloudburst]] narrowly avoid an intimate encounter with the organic [[First One]]—fooled by the outer appearance of his [[Pretender]] shell—by explaining that his race had "no men, no women, no mates". (He got decapitated for his troubles anyway.)

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene.		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene. <ref> Japanese magazine editors, responding to letters from confused young fans, gently explained that "some people are just like that". </ref>

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.

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	In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original ~~romantic~~ intent for the scene.		In the mid-1990s, ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon had [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)\|Airazor]] fall in love, and later [[Silverbolt (BW)\|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)\|Blackarachnia]]... but the notorious Japanese dub of the cartoon chose to reinterpret Airazor as a young man and re-contextualized their relationship as a platonic friendship between a samurai warrior and his ward. This approached worked for the first season of the cartoon... however, when the events of "[[Other Visits (Part 1)]]" wrote the two out of the show, their final, unambiguously romantic declaration of their love led the Japanese dub to follow through on the original intent for the scene.

	For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.		For the next few years after the conclusion of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)\|Beast Machines]]'', subsequent iterations of the ''Transformers'' franchise generally avoided any serious explorations of Cybertronian romance in favor of decidedly comedic (or occasionally downright ''uncomfortable'') depictions of love, such as the zany love triangle between [[Scylla]], [[Scuba]], and [[Bighorn]], [[Side Burn (RID)\|Side Burn]]'s obsession with red sports cars, or [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)\|Thunderblast]]'s antics. However, with the debut of [[IDW Publishing]]'s acclaimed "Phase 2" run, older-skewing ''Transformers'' works have once again taken a more thoughtful, serious approach to the topic of love and romance within Cybertronian society, taking into account changing real-world values and an increasingly diverse selection of authors.