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Saix: /* Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers */clean up, replaced: Deathsaurus (Victory) → Deathsaurus (G1)

2021-09-20T01:39:43Z

Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers: clean up, replaced: Deathsaurus (Victory) → Deathsaurus (G1)

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	* "Comvoy", used on the packaging for ''[[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]]''		* "Comvoy", used on the packaging for ''[[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]]''
	* Variations of "[[Decepticon\|Destron]]", including "Deathtron" and "Destoron"		* Variations of "[[Decepticon\|Destron]]", including "Deathtron" and "Destoron"
	* [[Deathsaurus (~~Victory~~)\|Deszaras]]		* [[Deathsaurus (G1)\|Deszaras]]
	* [[Latolata]]		* [[Latolata]]
	* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]		* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]

Saix: /* Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers */clean up, replaced: Rartorata → Latolata

2020-04-23T19:07:52Z

Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers: clean up, replaced: Rartorata → Latolata

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	* Variations of "[[Decepticon\|Destron]]", including "Deathtron" and "Destoron"		* Variations of "[[Decepticon\|Destron]]", including "Deathtron" and "Destoron"
	* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)\|Deszaras]]		* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)\|Deszaras]]
	* [[~~Rartorata~~]]		* [[Latolata]]
	* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]		* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]
	* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robotmasters (franchise)\|Robotmasters]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.		* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robotmasters (franchise)\|Robotmasters]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.

SanityOrMadness: /* Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers */

2015-01-02T02:36:32Z

Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers

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	* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robotmasters (franchise)\|Robotmasters]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.		* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robotmasters (franchise)\|Robotmasters]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.

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Mimi at 06:22, 3 August 2013

2013-08-03T06:22:35Z

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	* [[Rartorata]]		* [[Rartorata]]
	* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]		* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]
	* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[~~Robot Masters~~ (franchise)\|~~Robot Masters~~]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.		* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robotmasters (franchise)\|Robotmasters]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.


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Interrobang at 06:24, 13 September 2011

2011-09-13T06:24:15Z

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	* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)\|Deszaras]]		* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)\|Deszaras]]
	* [[Rartorata]]		* [[Rartorata]]
	* [[Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]		* [[The Transformers Collection\|Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)\|Chear]]
	* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robot Masters]]'', ''[[Alternators ~~(toyline)~~\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.		* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)\|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robot Masters (franchise)\|Robot Masters]]'', ''[[Transformers: Alternators\|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.


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Nevermore: Imported from the main "Romanization" article; to be reworked in the near future.

2010-10-20T16:28:05Z

Imported from the main "Romanization" article; to be reworked in the near future.

New page

[[Image:Romanization minelba.jpg|right|211px|thumb|Minerva; hypercorrecting "r" into "l", while somehow retaining the "b" from Japanese phonemes. Oh, Takara.]]
'''Romanization''' refers to the adaptation of languages or words that do not use Latin letters to the 26-character Latin alphabet used in English (among other, less important languages). Technically, the English-specific term would be "Anglicization".

The proper Romanization of Japanese character names can sometimes be unclear. This wiki notes such ambiguities if they are considered significant.

In fandom the term Romanization is frequently (and incorrectly) used to refer to Japanese misspelling of English words.

==Japanese and English==
Any writing system is (at best) an approximation of the sounds it represents. The Japanese writing system distinguishes between fewer [[Wikipedia:Phoneme|phonemes]] than most. This does not mean the language ''lacks'' those phonemes... English has more than 26 sounds, which is denoted by character-combinations ("ch" makes a sound that is not the combination of the mouth-movements for "c" and "h", but a close cousin), but even those combinations are imperfect; the double-o represents different sounds in "cook" and "spook".

Notably the Japanese script does not distinguish between the sounds "l" and "r", and English-speaking Japanese lack a mechanism for distinguishing the sounds in other languages. Foreign words in Japan frequently acquire ''creative'' spellings as a result of being rendered "down" into the Japanese script then re-Romanized; in such situations "[[Engrish]]" is a perfectly logical rendering. Accuracy is generally a low priority, as English characters are ''generally'' used to look cool, not make sense to Japanese children.

In fairness, we mangled the name of their entire country. [[Drift (G1)|And it's happened back-to-front in Transformers, now]].

{{see|Wikipedia:Romanization of Japanese}}

==Notorious and hilarious Romanizations in Transformers==
Romanization confusion can either be;

# Improper Japanese rendering of English names
# Words whose English spelling is open to interpretation.

* Minelba—Minerva
* Butt—[[Blot (G1)|Blot]]
* Clerken—[[Kraken]]
* "Comvoy", used on the packaging for ''[[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy]]''
* Variations of "[[Decepticon|Destron]]", including "Deathtron" and "Destoron"
* [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deszaras]]
* [[Rartorata]]
* [[Transformers Collection]] [[Kup (G1)|Chear]]
* A questionable case would be the various Japanese [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] toys named "Rijie" (''[[Robot Masters]]'', ''[[Alternators (toyline)|Binaltech]]'')—although the character's name was based on the original toy's vehicle mode, a Ligier racing car, Takara's insistence on using a Romanization of the name that's considerably different from the car manufacturer's name might hint at a willful decision.

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