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KrytenKoro: /* Tone policing and other problems */

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	I just wanted to say that you have some very trolling behaviors in the way you interact with others, that you should probably correct if you want to be taken seriously.		I just wanted to say that you have some very trolling behaviors in the way you interact with others, that you should probably correct if you want to be taken seriously.
	:"I voiced my opinion, which I believe is allowed." - No, ~~they~~'re not, and ~~they~~'re not on any non-trash wiki. Talk pages and other forms of communication are meant to suggest how to improve the wiki and articles, and should respect the ''input'' of other editors, as well as the facts. "I'm gonna make up claims about what works for the wiki, while ignoring the evidence of everyone else, and disregarding any one else's input as 'fear'" is none of those things. Opinions are ''worthless'' if not backed up by facts, and they're ''obnoxious'' if given without the commitment to respect those given by others.		:"I voiced my opinion, which I believe is allowed." - No, it's not, and it's not on any non-trash wiki. Talk pages and other forms of communication are meant to suggest how to improve the wiki and articles, and should respect the ''input'' of other editors, as well as the facts. "I'm gonna make up claims about what works for the wiki, while ignoring the evidence of everyone else, and disregarding any one else's input as 'fear'" is none of those things. Opinions are ''worthless'' if not backed up by facts, and they're ''obnoxious'' if given without the commitment to respect those given by others.
	:"You shouldn't be threatened by my opinions," - You need to learn to comprehend that you may not always be right. It's all well and good to say "this is just my opinion", but when ~~you're~~ default response to being told you're wrong is "they must be threatened by my truths", then you don't actually believe it. Saying something like that is evidence that you don't actually respect their opinions, and are trying to shove your opinions down their throats.		:"You shouldn't be threatened by my opinions," - You need to learn to comprehend that you may not always be right. It's all well and good to say "this is just my opinion", but when your default response to being told you're wrong is "they must be threatened by my truths", then you don't actually believe it. Saying something like that is evidence that you don't actually respect their opinions, and are trying to shove your opinions down their throats.
	:"If you don't agree with me, you can present the response in a formal, less aggressive way." - Again, you're ignoring all of their points and writing them off as "aggressive", demanding that they respond the way you want, while all the time ignoring any actual issue of import to spam their talk pages with "I just want an answer, I'm not being rude, I just want an answer, I'm not being rude." That's ''childish'', and obviously aggressive. You are being the aggressive one here.		:"If you don't agree with me, you can present the response in a formal, less aggressive way." - Again, you're ignoring all of their points and writing them off as "aggressive", demanding that they respond the way you want, while all the time ignoring any actual issue of import to spam their talk pages with "I just want an answer, I'm not being rude, I just want an answer, I'm not being rude." That's ''childish'', and obviously aggressive. You are being the aggressive one here.
	:"I'm sorry if you took this the wrong way," - Not only is this not an actual apology, since it has "if", but it's not even a half apology, since you're still blaming them for any disagreement -- "if they had just taken it the right way, they would agree with me". That's tremendously arrogant and obnoxious.		:"I'm sorry if you took this the wrong way," - Not only is this not an actual apology, since it has "if", but it's not even a half apology, since you're still blaming them for any disagreement -- "if they had just taken it the right way, they would agree with me". That's tremendously arrogant and obnoxious.

KrytenKoro: /* Tone policing */ hopefully I didn't break a rule here, if I did, then admins feel free to remove this and block me

2014-07-19T18:30:36Z

Tone policing: hopefully I didn't break a rule here, if I did, then admins feel free to remove this and block me

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	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	== Tone policing ==		== Tone policing and other problems ==

	I just wanted to say that you have some very trolling behaviors in the way you interact with others, that you should probably correct if you want to be taken seriously.		I just wanted to say that you have some very trolling behaviors in the way you interact with others, that you should probably correct if you want to be taken seriously.

KrytenKoro: /* Tone policing */ new section

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Tone policing: new section

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	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

			== Tone policing ==

			I just wanted to say that you have some very trolling behaviors in the way you interact with others, that you should probably correct if you want to be taken seriously.
			:"I voiced my opinion, which I believe is allowed." - No, they're not, and they're not on any non-trash wiki. Talk pages and other forms of communication are meant to suggest how to improve the wiki and articles, and should respect the ''input'' of other editors, as well as the facts. "I'm gonna make up claims about what works for the wiki, while ignoring the evidence of everyone else, and disregarding any one else's input as 'fear'" is none of those things. Opinions are ''worthless'' if not backed up by facts, and they're ''obnoxious'' if given without the commitment to respect those given by others.
			:"You shouldn't be threatened by my opinions," - You need to learn to comprehend that you may not always be right. It's all well and good to say "this is just my opinion", but when you're default response to being told you're wrong is "they must be threatened by my truths", then you don't actually believe it. Saying something like that is evidence that you don't actually respect their opinions, and are trying to shove your opinions down their throats.
			:"If you don't agree with me, you can present the response in a formal, less aggressive way." - Again, you're ignoring all of their points and writing them off as "aggressive", demanding that they respond the way you want, while all the time ignoring any actual issue of import to spam their talk pages with "I just want an answer, I'm not being rude, I just want an answer, I'm not being rude." That's ''childish'', and obviously aggressive. You are being the aggressive one here.
			:"I'm sorry if you took this the wrong way," - Not only is this not an actual apology, since it has "if", but it's not even a half apology, since you're still blaming them for any disagreement -- "if they had just taken it the right way, they would agree with me". That's tremendously arrogant and obnoxious.
			:"I've been told in the past this can come off as pushy or aggressive, but it's not my intent," -- If you've been told in the past that you come off as pushy and aggressive, to the point that you can immediately whip that memory out, and you ''haven't'' made an attempt to change that behavior?...Then yes, that's your intent. You're purposefully being pushy and aggressive, and not giving a damn if you annoy anyone. That's tremendously disrespectful behavior. Being a jerk to other people and disregarding everything they say (not to mention completely making things up like you did a lot earlier) is not "sticking to your principles", it's not respectable. It's pitiable.

			Seriously, stop trying to beat a dead horse and smother everyone with your unfounded opinions. If you want to be a useful member of ''any project'', much less a wiki, you need to learn to accept that you and your opinions are not the center of the universe. The world can and has done quite well at surviving without your input, so if you want to give input, make sure it's actually worth it.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro\|talk]]) 14:29, 19 July 2014 (EDT)

KrytenKoro at 18:16, 19 July 2014

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	:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	:And the humour's been here since the earliest of days on the wiki. The admins even contribute captions, often. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:And the humour's been here since the earliest of days on the wiki. The admins even contribute captions, often. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
			::Also, proper, "professional" captions are complemented by the article ''text'', with captions used to explain crucial info that can only be understood visually like "note the 82nd Highland division coming in from the left" -- the trend of banally copying the text to explain what a decorative image obviously displays is a trend started by amateur-to-the-point-of-incompetence writers. Find an image on this wiki which depicts vitally important information ''not'' covered by the main text or caption, and then you might be able to complain that information is being omitted.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro\|talk]]) 14:16, 19 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Escargon at 01:26, 19 July 2014

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	:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
			:And the humour's been here since the earliest of days on the wiki. The admins even contribute captions, often. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Escargon at 01:22, 19 July 2014

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	:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
			:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Abates at 01:09, 19 July 2014

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	:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	::Said list is now fully up to date. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		::Said list is now fully up to date. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

			:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Jalaguy at 22:14, 18 July 2014

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	:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
			::Said list is now fully up to date. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Abates at 22:05, 18 July 2014

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	:Regarding your response [[User talk:Abates#Response\|here]], this wiki has an established style and mood decided on by the existing community here. We don't strive to give a dry retelling of events as Wikipedia would do, and if anything I've seen more people expressing approval of the site's nature than disapproval. I've also noticed that other smaller Transformers wikis that pop up, and even some non-Transformers wikis, have also adopted the humorous captions by default. So, basically I don't think there's likely to be any change here, as the community prefers it that way. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 17:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Regarding your response [[User talk:Abates#Response\|here]], this wiki has an established style and mood decided on by the existing community here. We don't strive to give a dry retelling of events as Wikipedia would do, and if anything I've seen more people expressing approval of the site's nature than disapproval. I've also noticed that other smaller Transformers wikis that pop up, and even some non-Transformers wikis, have also adopted the humorous captions by default. So, basically I don't think there's likely to be any change here, as the community prefers it that way. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 17:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

			:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Abates at 21:43, 18 July 2014

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	:Stop it. Now. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Stop it. Now. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	:Also no we're not getting rid of the humor in the articles just cause you think it gets in the way of information. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Also no we're not getting rid of the humor in the articles just cause you think it gets in the way of information. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

			:Regarding your response [[User talk:Abates#Response\|here]], this wiki has an established style and mood decided on by the existing community here. We don't strive to give a dry retelling of events as Wikipedia would do, and if anything I've seen more people expressing approval of the site's nature than disapproval. I've also noticed that other smaller Transformers wikis that pop up, and even some non-Transformers wikis, have also adopted the humorous captions by default. So, basically I don't think there's likely to be any change here, as the community prefers it that way. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 17:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)


	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

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	:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	:And the humour's been here since the earliest of days on the wiki. The admins even contribute captions, often. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:And the humour's been here since the earliest of days on the wiki. The admins even contribute captions, often. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
			::Also, proper, "professional" captions are complemented by the article ''text'', with captions used to explain crucial info that can only be understood visually like "note the 82nd Highland division coming in from the left" -- the trend of banally copying the text to explain what a decorative image obviously displays is a trend started by amateur-to-the-point-of-incompetence writers. Find an image on this wiki which depicts vitally important information ''not'' covered by the main text or caption, and then you might be able to complain that information is being omitted.[[User:KrytenKoro\|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro\|talk]]) 14:16, 19 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

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	:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Also, when you talk about the largest and most succesful of wiki's: We ARE the largest and most successful wiki on Transformers. And most of the captions you take issue with have been there for years. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:22, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
			:And the humour's been here since the earliest of days on the wiki. The admins even contribute captions, often. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

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	:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Hi, there's a (currently incomplete) list of admins on [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal]]. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 18:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	::Said list is now fully up to date. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		::Said list is now fully up to date. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 18:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

			:I should point out that it's not me you have to convince on the humour issue, it's the community at large. As Escargon says, the image description page, which the user can see by clicking on the picture, will give an accurate description of what's happening in an image. Please keep in mind that most of the community here has built up the site over a number of years, and are for the most part pretty happy with the tone. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 21:09, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

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	:Stop it. Now. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Stop it. Now. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
	:Also no we're not getting rid of the humor in the articles just cause you think it gets in the way of information. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		:Also no we're not getting rid of the humor in the articles just cause you think it gets in the way of information. [[User:Escargon\|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon\|talk]]) 17:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

			:Regarding your response [[User talk:Abates#Response\|here]], this wiki has an established style and mood decided on by the existing community here. We don't strive to give a dry retelling of events as Wikipedia would do, and if anything I've seen more people expressing approval of the site's nature than disapproval. I've also noticed that other smaller Transformers wikis that pop up, and even some non-Transformers wikis, have also adopted the humorous captions by default. So, basically I don't think there's likely to be any change here, as the community prefers it that way. --[[User:Abates\|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates\|talk]]) 17:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)


	==Intro sections==		==Intro sections==
	Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)		Putting aside the issue of humour, article intros should describe the subject in-universe; i.e. it shouldn't be talking about how they're from this-and-that Transformers series. [[User:Jalaguy\|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy\|talk]]) 16:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)