User talk:Alientraveller/Alpha Trion - Revision history

https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=User_talk%3AAlientraveller%2FAlpha_Trion User talk:Alientraveller/Alpha Trion - Revision history 2026-09-14T22:25:28Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=609941&oldid=prev ItsWalky: /* Take 2 */ 2011-07-16T00:03:59Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Take 2</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:03, 16 July 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l15">Line 15:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 15:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I made some tweaks to the article for a less in-universe stance on Alpha Trion being one of the Thirteen. As Hasbro has declared the Alignedverse separate from the old multiverse at BotCon, I feel Alpha Trion ought to be covered in one article as a universal concept much like the other members of the Thirteen and objects like the Matrix, AllSpark, Energon et al. I'm happy to wait, but hopefully I've reshaped this sandbox to others' liking. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:35, 15 July 2011 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I made some tweaks to the article for a less in-universe stance on Alpha Trion being one of the Thirteen. As Hasbro has declared the Alignedverse separate from the old multiverse at BotCon, I feel Alpha Trion ought to be covered in one article as a universal concept much like the other members of the Thirteen and objects like the Matrix, AllSpark, Energon et al. I'm happy to wait, but hopefully I've reshaped this sandbox to others' liking. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:35, 15 July 2011 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: The problem with Alpha Trion being one of the Thirteen is that that's only a fact within the "Alignedverse." Alpha Trion is not stated to be one of the Thirteen in the original Multiverse. As you said, they were stated to be separate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:03, 15 July 2011 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=609930&oldid=prev Alientraveller: /* Take 2 */ new section 2011-07-15T23:35:28Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Take 2: </span> new section</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:35, 15 July 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Been a couple of days, we need more opinions. As I noted on your talk page David, if we are to wait, we should wait for a good reason regarding SG Trion rather than denying Alpha Trion's otherwise consistent character. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:04, 13 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Been a couple of days, we need more opinions. As I noted on your talk page David, if we are to wait, we should wait for a good reason regarding SG Trion rather than denying Alpha Trion's otherwise consistent character. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:04, 13 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Take 2 ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I made some tweaks to the article for a less in-universe stance on Alpha Trion being one of the Thirteen. As Hasbro has declared the Alignedverse separate from the old multiverse at BotCon, I feel Alpha Trion ought to be covered in one article as a universal concept much like the other members of the Thirteen and objects like the Matrix, AllSpark, Energon et al. I'm happy to wait, but hopefully I've reshaped this sandbox to others' liking. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 19:35, 15 July 2011 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Alientraveller https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=490219&oldid=prev Alientraveller at 16:04, 13 August 2010 2010-08-13T16:04:41Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:04, 13 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Lastly, yes, SG Alpha Trion's actions do need to reappraised if this revelation holds. Afterall, is he not trying to overcome the evil Optimus, and prevent Nexus from recovering the very sword they cut him up to hide? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:20, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Lastly, yes, SG Alpha Trion's actions do need to reappraised if this revelation holds. Afterall, is he not trying to overcome the evil Optimus, and prevent Nexus from recovering the very sword they cut him up to hide? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:20, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::He was trying to kill both Megatron and Optimus, so that he and Rodimus could rule the universe. Given that just a year ago Alpha Trion was definitely not one of the 13 according to Forest, and suddenly he is, I think some basic things that we know have been changed, or the old information is sometimes irrelevant to this new continuity. Again, we wait until we have better information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::::He was trying to kill both Megatron and Optimus, so that he and Rodimus could rule the universe. Given that just a year ago Alpha Trion was definitely not one of the 13 according to Forest, and suddenly he is, I think some basic things that we know have been changed, or the old information is sometimes irrelevant to this new continuity. Again, we wait until we have better information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Been a couple of days, we need more opinions. As I noted on your talk page David, if we are to wait, we should wait for a good reason regarding SG Trion rather than denying Alpha Trion's otherwise consistent character. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:04, 13 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Alientraveller https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489469&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 17:25, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T17:25:57Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:25, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::The One's been dropped? Sounds unlikely. Also I think it's clear it hasn't been dropped what with; The Fallen referring to his brothers as transdimensional beings in the comics; the mention in ''Exodus'' that their war lasted billions of cycles; the one Vector Prime guarding time and space; Nexus being scattered across the multiverse with no counterparts; and Prima's retconned appearance in the cartoon universe. Just the very fact of Hasbro's emphasis on the importance on "Once Upon a Time on Cybertron" as ''the'' backstory for the mythology, so clearly all Alpha Trions share this backstory as he sits scribbling in his Covenant, unaware of his duplicates as timeline on his homeworld diverge... while the others strive on outside of such constraints as time, space and physical bodies. :) I would agree with ItsWalky that maybe we should wait on it, but it's inevitable and currently I see four against two.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::The One's been dropped? Sounds unlikely. Also I think it's clear it hasn't been dropped what with; The Fallen referring to his brothers as transdimensional beings in the comics; the mention in ''Exodus'' that their war lasted billions of cycles; the one Vector Prime guarding time and space; Nexus being scattered across the multiverse with no counterparts; and Prima's retconned appearance in the cartoon universe. Just the very fact of Hasbro's emphasis on the importance on "Once Upon a Time on Cybertron" as ''the'' backstory for the mythology, so clearly all Alpha Trions share this backstory as he sits scribbling in his Covenant, unaware of his duplicates as timeline on his homeworld diverge... while the others strive on outside of such constraints as time, space and physical bodies. :) I would agree with ItsWalky that maybe we should wait on it, but it's inevitable and currently I see four against two.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Lastly, yes, SG Alpha Trion's actions do need to reappraised if this revelation holds. Afterall, is he not trying to overcome the evil Optimus, and prevent Nexus from recovering the very sword they cut him up to hide? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:20, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::::Lastly, yes, SG Alpha Trion's actions do need to reappraised if this revelation holds. Afterall, is he not trying to overcome the evil Optimus, and prevent Nexus from recovering the very sword they cut him up to hide? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:20, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::::He was trying to kill both Megatron and Optimus, so that he and Rodimus could rule the universe. Given that just a year ago Alpha Trion was definitely not one of the 13 according to Forest, and suddenly he is, I think some basic things that we know have been changed, or the old information is sometimes irrelevant to this new continuity. Again, we wait until we have better information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489468&oldid=prev Alientraveller at 17:20, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T17:20:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:20, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Until we get explicit in-fiction revelation that the 13 are still multiversal singularities--and that this isn't an abandoned concept akin to "The One" and Logos Prime and lotsa other stuff over the years--I vote we keep things as they are. It's too important a step to base on "Forrest Says," especially since what Forrest Says would have required that Alpha Trion in Axiom Nexus not be evil anymore as that would have been only a temporary characteristic imposed upon him by the SG dimension. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:16, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Until we get explicit in-fiction revelation that the 13 are still multiversal singularities--and that this isn't an abandoned concept akin to "The One" and Logos Prime and lotsa other stuff over the years--I vote we keep things as they are. It's too important a step to base on "Forrest Says," especially since what Forrest Says would have required that Alpha Trion in Axiom Nexus not be evil anymore as that would have been only a temporary characteristic imposed upon him by the SG dimension. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:16, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::The One's been dropped? Sounds unlikely. Also I think it's clear it hasn't been dropped what with; The Fallen referring to his brothers as transdimensional beings in the comics; the mention in ''Exodus'' that their war lasted billions of cycles; the one Vector Prime guarding time and space; Nexus being scattered across the multiverse with no counterparts; and Prima's retconned appearance in the cartoon universe. Just the very fact of Hasbro's emphasis on the importance on "Once Upon a Time on Cybertron" as ''the'' backstory for the mythology, so clearly all Alpha Trions share this backstory as he sits scribbling in his Covenant, unaware of his duplicates as timeline on his homeworld diverge... while the others strive on outside of such constraints as time, space and physical bodies. :) I would agree with ItsWalky that maybe we should wait on it, but it's inevitable and currently I see four against two.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::::Lastly, yes, SG Alpha Trion's actions do need to reappraised if this revelation holds. Afterall, is he not trying to overcome the evil Optimus, and prevent Nexus from recovering the very sword they cut him up to hide? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:20, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Alientraveller https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489449&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000 at 15:18, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T15:18:03Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:18, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Until we get explicit in-fiction revelation that the 13 are multiversal singularities<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </del>I vote we keep things as they are. It's too important a step to base on "Forrest Says," especially since what Forrest Says would have required that Alpha Trion in Axiom Nexus not be evil anymore as that would have been only a temporary characteristic imposed upon him by the SG dimension. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:16, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::::Until we get explicit in-fiction revelation that the 13 are <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">still </ins>multiversal singularities<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--and that this isn't an abandoned concept akin to "The One" and Logos Prime and lotsa other stuff over the years--</ins>I vote we keep things as they are. It's too important a step to base on "Forrest Says," especially since what Forrest Says would have required that Alpha Trion in Axiom Nexus not be evil anymore as that would have been only a temporary characteristic imposed upon him by the SG dimension. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:16, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489448&oldid=prev Thylacine 2000 at 15:16, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T15:16:52Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:16, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::Until we get explicit in-fiction revelation that the 13 are multiversal singularities, I vote we keep things as they are. It's too important a step to base on "Forrest Says," especially since what Forrest Says would have required that Alpha Trion in Axiom Nexus not be evil anymore as that would have been only a temporary characteristic imposed upon him by the SG dimension. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:16, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Thylacine 2000 https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489445&oldid=prev ItsWalky at 14:45, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T14:45:27Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:45, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it. I never did think that most of the A3s were that cumbersome to merge, you have proven me correct. I think as we go forward and learn more about the multiversal singularities and the new "aligned continuity" many past objections will be handled by the fiction.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:05, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it. I never did think that most of the A3s were that cumbersome to merge, you have proven me correct. I think as we go forward and learn more about the multiversal singularities and the new "aligned continuity" many past objections will be handled by the fiction.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:05, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::: I think we can afford to hold off on this until later, when we have more information. I have a feeling that Things Are Afoot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

ItsWalky https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489444&oldid=prev Khajidha at 14:14, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T14:14:24Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:14, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it and would have no problem with this merger. Our current note-dependent version was a compromise to assuage a few vocal opponents of cross-continuity, but I always thought that was a rather silly viewpoint so mergers cool with me. -ZacWilliam (not signed in) --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:58, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it and would have no problem with this merger. Our current note-dependent version was a compromise to assuage a few vocal opponents of cross-continuity, but I always thought that was a rather silly viewpoint so mergers cool with me. -ZacWilliam (not signed in) --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:58, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it. I never did think that most of the A3s were that cumbersome to merge, you have proven me correct. I think as we go forward and learn more about the multiversal singularities and the new "aligned continuity" many past objections will be handled by the fiction.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:05, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it. I never did think that most of the A3s were that cumbersome to merge, you have proven me correct. I think as we go forward and learn more about the multiversal singularities and the new "aligned continuity" many past objections will be handled by the fiction.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:05, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Note: if/when this goes live we need to remember to merge all of the talk pages as well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:14, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Khajidha https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Alientraveller/Alpha_Trion&diff=489434&oldid=prev Khajidha at 13:05, 11 August 2010 2010-08-11T13:05:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:05, 11 August 2010</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I for one am in favour of this. I don't think any of the Alpha Trion pages are so long that combining them creates an unwieldy or infeasible article. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:56, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I for one am in favour of this. I don't think any of the Alpha Trion pages are so long that combining them creates an unwieldy or infeasible article. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:56, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it and would have no problem with this merger. Our current note-dependent version was a compromise to assuage a few vocal opponents of cross-continuity, but I always thought that was a rather silly viewpoint so mergers cool with me. -ZacWilliam (not signed in) --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:58, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:I like it and would have no problem with this merger. Our current note-dependent version was a compromise to assuage a few vocal opponents of cross-continuity, but I always thought that was a rather silly viewpoint so mergers cool with me. -ZacWilliam (not signed in) --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:58, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:I like it. I never did think that most of the A3s were that cumbersome to merge, you have proven me correct. I think as we go forward and learn more about the multiversal singularities and the new "aligned continuity" many past objections will be handled by the fiction.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:05, 11 August 2010 (EDT)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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