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Geewunling: /* Atari captions */

2012-09-26T11:26:50Z

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	:I would like to refrain from answering about the main caption image change for now, because the caption's problems are vast ("harsh" doesn't begin to cover it and all the problems are deeply gendered) and I have a little something in the works that will explain it better once it's done. Though in the meantime, I invite you to ponder on the implications of the joke's "your gender"-part. [http://xkcd.com/385/ This] may help you get started on one, maybe two of them.		:I would like to refrain from answering about the main caption image change for now, because the caption's problems are vast ("harsh" doesn't begin to cover it and all the problems are deeply gendered) and I have a little something in the works that will explain it better once it's done. Though in the meantime, I invite you to ponder on the implications of the joke's "your gender"-part. [http://xkcd.com/385/ This] may help you get started on one, maybe two of them.
	:As for the hamster ear joke, I don't think I so much changed it as rephrased it. And I did that only because I didn't think the old phrasing was particular funny. "X models Y" isn't all that much less dry than "X wears Y", which would be just a description of the image. Maybe I missed a reference and in that case I apologize. Either way, I'm okay if it would be changed back. I only adjusted it because I had set my mind on filling up the Atari captions (and fixing the problematic ones) and that one just came in between. (Though I should say I am thinking on doing a Minerva's swimming class article, which would improve the link part of the current joke.)		:As for the hamster ear joke, I don't think I so much changed it as rephrased it. And I did that only because I didn't think the old phrasing was particular funny. "X models Y" isn't all that much less dry than "X wears Y", which would be just a description of the image. Maybe I missed a reference and in that case I apologize. Either way, I'm okay if it would be changed back. I only adjusted it because I had set my mind on filling up the Atari captions (and fixing the problematic ones) and that one just came in between. (Though I should say I am thinking on doing a Minerva's swimming class article, which would improve the link part of the current joke.)
	:No, I wasn't around when KP happened and I missed any deniers of its troll content (I should note I avoid TF fora ~~like the plague~~ anyway). I don't think I've had to to judge the previous joke, because there's (going to be) a lot of people like me who will only see "You gonna get raped." (which would not be an isolated case of a rape joke or otherwise sexual harrassment approval on this wiki). The disclaimer portion is funny, even without background knowledge, and I've thought about just making that the whole caption. There's too much reading required and too much background knowledge needed to justify that "You gonna get raped." sentence, and the disclaimer's smaller letters don't help anything. But then the Red Riding Hood joke got in my head, and I thought it made for a reasonably non-offensive way to acknowledge the rape and pedosexual context of the image without being ónly about that, so I favored that over just the bare disclaimer. (PS. I have no intention at the moment of going after the other rape jokes attached to the image because they're about the phrase 'raping one's childhood', which is a disgusting phrase, but a phrase anyway and only about the phrase.) [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 06:18, 26 September 2012 (EDT)		:No, I wasn't around when KP happened and I missed any deniers of its troll content (I should note I avoid TF fora anyway). I don't think I've had to to judge the previous joke, because there's (going to be) a lot of people like me who will only see "You gonna get raped." (which would not be an isolated case of a rape joke or otherwise sexual harrassment approval on this wiki). The disclaimer portion is funny, even without background knowledge, and I've thought about just making that the whole caption. There's too much reading required and too much background knowledge needed to justify that "You gonna get raped." sentence, and the disclaimer's smaller letters don't help anything. But then the Red Riding Hood joke got in my head, and I thought it made for a reasonably non-offensive way to acknowledge the rape and pedosexual context of the image without being ónly about that, so I favored that over just the bare disclaimer. (PS. I have no intention at the moment of going after the other rape jokes attached to the image because they're about the phrase 'raping one's childhood', which is a disgusting phrase, but a phrase anyway and only about the phrase.) [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 06:18, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

Geewunling: /* Atari captions */

2012-09-26T10:19:08Z

Atari captions

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	:I would like to refrain from answering about the main caption image change for now, because the caption's problems are vast ("harsh" doesn't begin to cover it and all the problems are deeply gendered) and I have a little something in the works that will explain it better once it's done. Though in the meantime, I invite you to ponder on the implications of the joke's "your gender"-part. [http://xkcd.com/385/ This] may help you get started on one, maybe two of them.		:I would like to refrain from answering about the main caption image change for now, because the caption's problems are vast ("harsh" doesn't begin to cover it and all the problems are deeply gendered) and I have a little something in the works that will explain it better once it's done. Though in the meantime, I invite you to ponder on the implications of the joke's "your gender"-part. [http://xkcd.com/385/ This] may help you get started on one, maybe two of them.
	:As for the hamster ear joke, I don't think I so much changed it as rephrased it. And I did that only because I didn't think the old phrasing was particular funny. "X models Y" isn't all that much less dry than "X wears Y", which would be just a description of the image. Maybe I missed a reference and in that case I apologize. Either way, I'm okay if it would be changed back. I only adjusted it because I had set my mind on filling up the Atari captions (and fixing the problematic ones) and that one just came in between. (Though I should say I am thinking on doing a Minerva's swimming class article, which would improve the link part of the current joke.)		:As for the hamster ear joke, I don't think I so much changed it as rephrased it. And I did that only because I didn't think the old phrasing was particular funny. "X models Y" isn't all that much less dry than "X wears Y", which would be just a description of the image. Maybe I missed a reference and in that case I apologize. Either way, I'm okay if it would be changed back. I only adjusted it because I had set my mind on filling up the Atari captions (and fixing the problematic ones) and that one just came in between. (Though I should say I am thinking on doing a Minerva's swimming class article, which would improve the link part of the current joke.)
	:No, I wasn't around when KP happened and I missed any deniers of its troll content (I should note I avoid TF fora like the plague anyway). I don't think I've had to to judge the previous joke, because there's (going to be) a lot of people like me who will only see "You gonna get raped." (which would not be an isolated case of a rape joke or otherwise sexual harrassment approval on this wiki). The disclaimer portion is funny, even without background knowledge, and I've thought about just making that the whole caption. There's too much reading required and too much background knowledge needed to justify that "You gonna get raped." sentence, and the disclaimer's smaller letters don't help anything. But then the Red Riding Hood joke got in my head, and I thought it made for a reasonably non-offensive way to acknowledge the rape and pedosexual context of the image without being ónly about that, so I favored that over just the bare disclaimer. (PS. I have no intention at the moment of going after the other rape jokes attached to the image because they're about the phrase 'raping one's childhood', which is a disgusting phrase, but a phrase anyway.) [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 06:18, 26 September 2012 (EDT)		:No, I wasn't around when KP happened and I missed any deniers of its troll content (I should note I avoid TF fora like the plague anyway). I don't think I've had to to judge the previous joke, because there's (going to be) a lot of people like me who will only see "You gonna get raped." (which would not be an isolated case of a rape joke or otherwise sexual harrassment approval on this wiki). The disclaimer portion is funny, even without background knowledge, and I've thought about just making that the whole caption. There's too much reading required and too much background knowledge needed to justify that "You gonna get raped." sentence, and the disclaimer's smaller letters don't help anything. But then the Red Riding Hood joke got in my head, and I thought it made for a reasonably non-offensive way to acknowledge the rape and pedosexual context of the image without being ónly about that, so I favored that over just the bare disclaimer. (PS. I have no intention at the moment of going after the other rape jokes attached to the image because they're about the phrase 'raping one's childhood', which is a disgusting phrase, but a phrase anyway and only about the phrase.) [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 06:18, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

Geewunling: /* Atari captions */

2012-09-26T10:18:42Z

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	I am, conversely, confused as to why you changed the hamster-ear picture's caption, as she is actually in a Japanese elementary school swimsuit... and a little by the change to the one that called her a blight upon this franchise and her gender, as, while it was admittedly harsh, she is not exactly a shining example of human ''Transformers'' characters or women in general. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 04:15, 26 September 2012 (EDT)		I am, conversely, confused as to why you changed the hamster-ear picture's caption, as she is actually in a Japanese elementary school swimsuit... and a little by the change to the one that called her a blight upon this franchise and her gender, as, while it was admittedly harsh, she is not exactly a shining example of human ''Transformers'' characters or women in general. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 04:15, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
			:Not just gender neutral, but I suppose that's the main effect.
			:I would like to refrain from answering about the main caption image change for now, because the caption's problems are vast ("harsh" doesn't begin to cover it and all the problems are deeply gendered) and I have a little something in the works that will explain it better once it's done. Though in the meantime, I invite you to ponder on the implications of the joke's "your gender"-part. [http://xkcd.com/385/ This] may help you get started on one, maybe two of them.
			:As for the hamster ear joke, I don't think I so much changed it as rephrased it. And I did that only because I didn't think the old phrasing was particular funny. "X models Y" isn't all that much less dry than "X wears Y", which would be just a description of the image. Maybe I missed a reference and in that case I apologize. Either way, I'm okay if it would be changed back. I only adjusted it because I had set my mind on filling up the Atari captions (and fixing the problematic ones) and that one just came in between. (Though I should say I am thinking on doing a Minerva's swimming class article, which would improve the link part of the current joke.)
			:No, I wasn't around when KP happened and I missed any deniers of its troll content (I should note I avoid TF fora like the plague anyway). I don't think I've had to to judge the previous joke, because there's (going to be) a lot of people like me who will only see "You gonna get raped." (which would not be an isolated case of a rape joke or otherwise sexual harrassment approval on this wiki). The disclaimer portion is funny, even without background knowledge, and I've thought about just making that the whole caption. There's too much reading required and too much background knowledge needed to justify that "You gonna get raped." sentence, and the disclaimer's smaller letters don't help anything. But then the Red Riding Hood joke got in my head, and I thought it made for a reasonably non-offensive way to acknowledge the rape and pedosexual context of the image without being ónly about that, so I favored that over just the bare disclaimer. (PS. I have no intention at the moment of going after the other rape jokes attached to the image because they're about the phrase 'raping one's childhood', which is a disgusting phrase, but a phrase anyway.) [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 06:18, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

Monzo at 08:15, 26 September 2012

2012-09-26T08:15:16Z

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	==WFC Bluestreak==		==WFC Bluestreak==
	There's no information on either his page or the uploaded art as to where he was revealed or where his art came from. I think sourcing this is kind of important. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 16:24, 11 November 2011 (EST)		There's no information on either his page or the uploaded art as to where he was revealed or where his art came from. I think sourcing this is kind of important. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 16:24, 11 November 2011 (EST)

			==Atari captions==
			Okay, so you are kind of on a one-person mission to produce a more gender-neutral TFWiki. This is a fair thing to do. With regards to the captions on Atari's page, though... the one that had been under the image of her being attacked by a Legion was, if I recall correctly, created to make fun of the people who ''didn<nowiki>'</nowiki>t'' see rape imagery in Kiss Players - or tried to write it off as a facet of Japanese culture - when, well, the Legion's tongue is pretty obviously drawn to resemble a urethral opening. I do not believe the caption was meant to be a joke ''about'' rape, per se, but an attempt to lampshade those in the fandom who were sticking their fingers in their ears and going "lalala, not listening, that underage-looking girl being attacked by a tongue-phallus is perfectly normal". So... I'm not really sure whether the caption should be changed back or not, here, but I thought some context would be helpful, as I don't know if you were in the fandom at the time KissPlay hit to see the volleys that went back and forth about its subject matter.

			I am, conversely, confused as to why you changed the hamster-ear picture's caption, as she is actually in a Japanese elementary school swimsuit... and a little by the change to the one that called her a blight upon this franchise and her gender, as, while it was admittedly harsh, she is not exactly a shining example of human ''Transformers'' characters or women in general. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 04:15, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

Monzo at 21:24, 11 November 2011

2011-11-11T21:24:25Z

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	[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]		[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]
	Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

			==WFC Bluestreak==
			There's no information on either his page or the uploaded art as to where he was revealed or where his art came from. I think sourcing this is kind of important. --[[User:Monzo\|Monzo]] 16:24, 11 November 2011 (EST)

TX55: Um.. nevermind

2011-10-17T15:09:25Z

Um.. nevermind

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	Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

	: Purple, as being retconnned and confirmed in [[Flames of Yesterday]] and is mentioned in the page [[Strika (BM)]]. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 11:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

TX55: /* Strikas identity issue */

2011-10-17T15:08:42Z

Strikas identity issue

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	Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

	Purple, as being retconnned and confirmed in [[Flames of Yesterday]] and is mentioned in the page [[Strika (BM)]]. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 11:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)		: Purple, as being retconnned and confirmed in [[Flames of Yesterday]] and is mentioned in the page [[Strika (BM)]]. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 11:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

TX55: /* Strikas identity issue */

2011-10-17T15:08:24Z

Strikas identity issue

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	[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]		[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]
	Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

			Purple, as being retconnned and confirmed in [[Flames of Yesterday]] and is mentioned in the page [[Strika (BM)]]. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 11:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

Geewunling: /* Strikas identity issue */

2011-10-17T11:50:38Z

Strikas identity issue

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	== Strikas identity issue ==		== Strikas identity issue ==
			[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]
	[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]] ~~{{G1cap\|[[Strika (BM)\|Strikas]] and [[Glyph (G1)\|Glyph]], apparently.\|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4\|6}} hey~~, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway?		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

Jazzerprime at 10:48, 17 October 2011

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	I like the work you did organizing this, but you realize that I've published about two more years worth of [[The_Ark_series#The_Ark_Addendum\|Addendums]], right? --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:37, 23 August 2011 (EDT)		I like the work you did organizing this, but you realize that I've published about two more years worth of [[The_Ark_series#The_Ark_Addendum\|Addendums]], right? --[[User:Jimsorenson\|Jimsorenson]] 15:37, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
	:I most certainly do, and I plan to add the rest soon enough. But I wanted to wait and see if me doing something with the page would not cause any more "should we list this" debates, as I didn't feel like catching up listing two years of Ark Addenda if people potentially wouldn't like the new list or would want to get rid of it altogether. [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 15:42, 23 August 2011 (EDT)		:I most certainly do, and I plan to add the rest soon enough. But I wanted to wait and see if me doing something with the page would not cause any more "should we list this" debates, as I didn't feel like catching up listing two years of Ark Addenda if people potentially wouldn't like the new list or would want to get rid of it altogether. [[User:Geewunling\|Geewunling]] 15:42, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

			== Strikas identity issue ==

			[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]] {{G1cap\|[[Strika (BM)\|Strikas]] and [[Glyph (G1)\|Glyph]], apparently.\|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4\|6}} hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway?

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	Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

	: Purple, as being retconnned and confirmed in [[Flames of Yesterday]] and is mentioned in the page [[Strika (BM)]]. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 11:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)

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	[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]		[[Image:FFOD4-StrikaGlyph.jpg\|thumb\|right\|200px\|]]
	Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}		Hey, do u know which one is Strika in this pic? purple or pink, cuz it'd make more sense if it was the pink one in the pic please inform & by the way how was it confirmed that this was Strika anyway? {{unsigned\|Jazzerprime}}

			Purple, as being retconnned and confirmed in [[Flames of Yesterday]] and is mentioned in the page [[Strika (BM)]]. --'''[[User:TX55\|<span style= "color:#00FA9A">TX55</span>]]'''<small><SUP>''[[User talk:TX55\|<span style= "color:#0000CD">TALK</span>]]''</SUP></small> 11:08, 17 October 2011 (EDT)