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King Starscream: /* Toy writeups */

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	: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)		: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)
	::Thanks for taking it onboard! To clarify the Elita-1 thing, what I meant is that using the word "inaccurate" to describe a ''Cyberworld'' toy doesn't really make sense, because when the toys were being designed, there wasn't anything to ''be'' accurate to. See [https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1964360226133418246 this tweet] from the showrunner. ''Transformers'' cartoons haven't worked this way in ages and I've realised now that when I wrote Optimus Prime's toy entry I also used phrasing which implied the toy had failed to reflect the show. If you want to take a look at [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)]] and [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]], the Notes sections there are the way I'd propose we cover this sort of thing? Dunno. Details are good! —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2025 (EST)		::Thanks for taking it onboard! To clarify the Elita-1 thing, what I meant is that using the word "inaccurate" to describe a ''Cyberworld'' toy doesn't really make sense, because when the toys were being designed, there wasn't anything to ''be'' accurate to. See [https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1964360226133418246 this tweet] from the showrunner. ''Transformers'' cartoons haven't worked this way in ages and I've realised now that when I wrote Optimus Prime's toy entry I also used phrasing which implied the toy had failed to reflect the show. If you want to take a look at [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)]] and [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]], the Notes sections there are the way I'd propose we cover this sort of thing? Dunno. Details are good! —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2025 (EST)
			:::I think I see where you're coming from now and I appreciate the elaboration. I'll try to be more straightforward, especially on simpler stuff. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 December 2025 (EST)

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	Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)		Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)
	: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)		: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)
			::Thanks for taking it onboard! To clarify the Elita-1 thing, what I meant is that using the word "inaccurate" to describe a ''Cyberworld'' toy doesn't really make sense, because when the toys were being designed, there wasn't anything to ''be'' accurate to. See [https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1964360226133418246 this tweet] from the showrunner. ''Transformers'' cartoons haven't worked this way in ages and I've realised now that when I wrote Optimus Prime's toy entry I also used phrasing which implied the toy had failed to reflect the show. If you want to take a look at [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)]] and [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]], the Notes sections there are the way I'd propose we cover this sort of thing? Dunno. Details are good! —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2025 (EST)

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	Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)		Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)
			: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)

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	: Gotcha. Thanks for the tip, I just occassionally blank my page 'cause I don't like the clutter. But if it's better the keep it there I will.		: Gotcha. Thanks for the tip, I just occassionally blank my page 'cause I don't like the clutter. But if it's better the keep it there I will.
	--[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 22:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)		--[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 22:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

			==Toy writeups==
			Hi there. I just visited the entry for [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]] and was surprised and disappointed to see it consisted mostly of comparisons to other, previous Starscream designs, none of which have any sort of direct, tangible influence on the toy itself. This has led me to look at some of your other contributions, and I think there's a pattern of information being added which isn't actually constructive. Here are a few examples:

			:[[Alpha Trion/toys#Age of the Primes]]
			:''In vehicle mode, his shield opens up to become the fins on the sides of his altmode, but the small tabs that are meant to connect them to his knee armor do not actually securely hold.''
			Is this actually a widespread issue, or just something you noticed on your copy of the toy? We'd ideally like to see some citations for forum posts from multiple people running into the same problem. Even if it is the case, this sentence could be phrased much more succinctly: "His cape can be wielded as a shield or attached to the bottom of his altmode, though some of the tabs used are loose." Apart from the looseness, the information about the cape was already in the entry a couple of sentences above! And why start talking about "the fins on the sides of his altmode" as if this is a pre-established element of Alpha Trion's character model?

			:[[Cosmos (G1)#Titans Return]]
			:''If one were to have Payload from the original release of the mold, he can be converted to blaster mode and pegged in under the new tooling's alt mode for a more believeable combined mode while also being able to sit on a flat surface.''
			This writeup was a nightmare to begin with, so it's not strictly your fault. The way to think of it is that all of the ''Combiner Wars'' compatibility is simply an unintended side-effect of the modifications made to the mold for Scrounge, and not actually pertinent to Cosmos, who was not released in the same line as any of the ''Combiner Wars'' toys. He certainly was not officially intended to combine with Mirage or Drag Strip. Describing a random fan-mode, on top of all that, doesn't really help anyone.

			:[[Elita-1 (Cyberworld)]]
			:''Her vehicle mode is fairly [[Show-accuracy\|inaccurate compared to her animation model]] compared to other ''Cyberworld'' toys; see the Notes section below.''
			:
			: ''When transforming her into speedboat mode, a small plastic panel slides up to cover her face. Despite her instructions showing to flip over the prow of her boat mode as the last step of her transformation, it is easier to do this before pushing her legs up to activate the sliding mechanism for transformation; the pegs that hold the front panel in place are large enough that it requires pulling her arms far enough apart to partially transform her back into robot mode anyway. She also features several tabs, pegs, and notches to secure her vehicle mode together, which may snag on each other it her arms and legs aren't perfectly straight.''
			: ''She appears to be shortpacked in her assortment case, with only one or two copies being included per box.''
			:''While her robot mode appears to be largely copied directly with few changes, her vehicle mode's animation model has a number of differences. Despite this, her Cyber Changer figure appears to copy Riptide's altmode extremely faithfully in all but color.''
			What are you talking about? All the ''Cyberworld'' animation models are tweaked slightly relative to the toys. Elita-1's is not particularly different; all the shapes are there, just streamlined a little. The phrasing here also implies that the toy is "wrong" for trying to copy Riptide's design instead of your (imagined) Elita-1 character model, when the toy came first? While this ''Cyberworld'' transformation scheme is a little finicky, same as on all the other toys that use it, your description here is verbose to the point of being basically incomprehensible, and very much a case of your-mileage-may-vary; see [[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)#Toys]] for a much more succinct description of basically the same issue. Finally, the remark about the shortpacking needs a citation; every time I've seen this toy in the wild, it's been with one of each of the toys in the wave, so I don't think it's the same for all shipping cases. An Entertainment Earth listing or something would do.

			:[[Wheeljack (Cyberworld)]]
			:''He also possesses 5mm ports on his back, arms and hands, plus a flightstand port.''
			This is fine, but would have benefitted from the same crosslinks seen in other ''Cyberworld'' entries to explain what those ports are for.

			Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)

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	: Gotcha. Thanks for the tip, I just occassionally blank my page 'cause I don't like the clutter. But if it's better the keep it there I will.		: Gotcha. Thanks for the tip, I just occassionally blank my page 'cause I don't like the clutter. But if it's better the keep it there I will.
	--[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 22:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>~~		--[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 22:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

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	I think you may want to know that it could be considered bad form to keep blanking your talk page. Nothing actually wrong has been done, but it can have negative connotations. See the specific [[Transformers Wiki:User_page\|help page]] for more explanation. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I think you may want to know that it could be considered bad form to keep blanking your talk page. Nothing actually wrong has been done, but it can have negative connotations. See the specific [[Transformers Wiki:User_page\|help page]] for more explanation. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

			: Gotcha. Thanks for the tip, I just occassionally blank my page 'cause I don't like the clutter. But if it's better the keep it there I will.
			--[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] 22:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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			Why did you remove the Creat-A-Bots' altmodes? That's important information. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 18:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

			- In the future, please use User talk: pages for corrospondence, rather than putting messages to users on their User: page itself. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 06:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


	I think you may want to know that it could be considered bad form to keep blanking your talk page. Nothing actually wrong has been done, but it can have negative connotations. See the specific [[Transformers Wiki:User_page\|help page]] for more explanation. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I think you may want to know that it could be considered bad form to keep blanking your talk page. Nothing actually wrong has been done, but it can have negative connotations. See the specific [[Transformers Wiki:User_page\|help page]] for more explanation. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		I think you may want to know that it could be considered bad form to keep blanking your talk page. Nothing actually wrong has been done, but it can have negative connotations. See the specific [[Transformers Wiki:User_page\|help page]] for more explanation. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 18:52, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	~~Why did you remove the Creat-A-Bots' altmodes? That's important information. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 18:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)~~		<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

	~~In the future, please use User talk: pages for corrospondence, rather than putting messages to users on their User: page itself. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 06:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)~~<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	Why did you remove the Creat-A-Bots' altmodes? That's important information. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 18:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>		Why did you remove the Creat-A-Bots' altmodes? That's important information. --[[User:M Sipher\|M Sipher]] 18:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

			In the future, please use User talk: pages for corrospondence, rather than putting messages to users on their User: page itself. --[[User:Sntint\|Sntint]] 06:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

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	: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)		: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)
	::Thanks for taking it onboard! To clarify the Elita-1 thing, what I meant is that using the word "inaccurate" to describe a ''Cyberworld'' toy doesn't really make sense, because when the toys were being designed, there wasn't anything to ''be'' accurate to. See [https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1964360226133418246 this tweet] from the showrunner. ''Transformers'' cartoons haven't worked this way in ages and I've realised now that when I wrote Optimus Prime's toy entry I also used phrasing which implied the toy had failed to reflect the show. If you want to take a look at [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)]] and [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]], the Notes sections there are the way I'd propose we cover this sort of thing? Dunno. Details are good! —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2025 (EST)		::Thanks for taking it onboard! To clarify the Elita-1 thing, what I meant is that using the word "inaccurate" to describe a ''Cyberworld'' toy doesn't really make sense, because when the toys were being designed, there wasn't anything to ''be'' accurate to. See [https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1964360226133418246 this tweet] from the showrunner. ''Transformers'' cartoons haven't worked this way in ages and I've realised now that when I wrote Optimus Prime's toy entry I also used phrasing which implied the toy had failed to reflect the show. If you want to take a look at [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)]] and [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]], the Notes sections there are the way I'd propose we cover this sort of thing? Dunno. Details are good! —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2025 (EST)
			:::I think I see where you're coming from now and I appreciate the elaboration. I'll try to be more straightforward, especially on simpler stuff. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:42, 1 December 2025 (EST)

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	Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)		Basically, what I'm getting at is that sometimes less is more. I've looked over your edits from the last month or so but don't have time to check anything older than that; you might want to take a look yourself with some of these points in mind. You really want to try to stick to objective facts—development info, intentional features accidentally left out of the instructions, direct inspiration, that sort of thing. You don't need to tell people how to play with their toys for them! Sorry if this is a lot, I hope some of it is helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 08:33, 23 November 2025 (EST)
	: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)		: I appreciate the constructive criticism. I'll go back over what I've done recently and think about if there are ways to improve what I was trying to say or if they are better off being left out entirely. However, to the point of Elita's Cyberworld figure, I am definitely not trying to imply anything is "wrong" with how it was designed. As for the accuracy of other characters, it seemed like for them their toy vs show accuracy came down largely to paint rather than scupt, with Elita's being notably different in the overall appearance of her vehicle mode. And I'm not telling people "how to play with their toys" so much as trying to provide what should amount to troubleshooting for common hiccups that I have heard other people mentioning. Either way, I had only been either making edits similar to information I've seen on other articles or trying to expand on extremely breif, pre-release descriptions, but if I overshot than I accept that and will try to do better in the future. --[[User:King Starscream\|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream\|talk]]) 10:16, 24 November 2025 (EST)
			::Thanks for taking it onboard! To clarify the Elita-1 thing, what I meant is that using the word "inaccurate" to describe a ''Cyberworld'' toy doesn't really make sense, because when the toys were being designed, there wasn't anything to ''be'' accurate to. See [https://x.com/HedlesChkn/status/1964360226133418246 this tweet] from the showrunner. ''Transformers'' cartoons haven't worked this way in ages and I've realised now that when I wrote Optimus Prime's toy entry I also used phrasing which implied the toy had failed to reflect the show. If you want to take a look at [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)]] and [[Starscream (Cyberworld)]], the Notes sections there are the way I'd propose we cover this sort of thing? Dunno. Details are good! —[[User:The Wadapan\|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan\|talk]]) 16:18, 24 November 2025 (EST)