https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=User_talk%3ATrousleUser talk:Trousle - Revision history2026-09-12T07:56:53ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692826&oldid=prevCyberlink420 at 18:58, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:58:25Z<p></p>
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</table>Cyberlink420https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692823&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:47, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:47:50Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, nor was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny made an assumption Hetalia (saying that it is based off of ww2 which it isn't) and I just added that that it isn't just the axis nor is it focused on them despite the name, its a comedic historical allegory set throughout time featuring various countries (not just ww2, the american revolution also makes an appearance and even the Holy Roman Empire). It would do well for research to be done on it before it is brought up as evidence of any sort.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, nor was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny made an assumption Hetalia (saying that it is based off of ww2 which it isn't) and I just added that that it isn't just the axis nor is it focused on them despite the name, its a comedic historical allegory set throughout time featuring various countries (not just ww2, the american revolution also makes an appearance and even the Holy Roman Empire)<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. When I posted that screenshot it was after having done my research into it, as I too was worried about the title--do not think I ignored that</ins>. It would do well for research to be done on it before it is brought up as evidence of any sort.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692822&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:46, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:46:44Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, nor was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny made an assumption Hetalia (saying that it is based off of ww2 which it isn't) and I just added that that it isn't just the axis nor is it focused on them despite the name, its a comedic allegory set throughout time featuring various countries (not just ww2, the american revolution also makes an appearance and even the Holy Roman Empire). It would do well for research to be done on it before it is brought up as evidence of any sort.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, nor was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny made an assumption Hetalia (saying that it is based off of ww2 which it isn't) and I just added that that it isn't just the axis nor is it focused on them despite the name, its a comedic <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">historical </ins>allegory set throughout time featuring various countries (not just ww2, the american revolution also makes an appearance and even the Holy Roman Empire). It would do well for research to be done on it before it is brought up as evidence of any sort.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692821&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:46, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:46:04Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, nor was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is due to all the times they have ever spoken to me, even outside of moderation. I had no reason to believe Shiny would bother to listen to me. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, nor was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Shiny made an assumption Hetalia (saying that it is based off of ww2 which it isn't) and I just added that that it isn't just the axis nor is it focused on them despite the name, its a comedic allegory set throughout time featuring various countries (not just ww2, the american revolution also makes an appearance and even the Holy Roman Empire). It would do well for research to be done on it before it is brought up as evidence of any sort.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad any more, I merely brought it up for context on our interaction. After all I did say "The only people I have ever had conflicts with were the mods Shiny and Sam, and possibly Cooone and Jess" and that is true, I haven't had any conflict with any other mod or user.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad any more, I merely brought it up for context on our interaction. After all I did say "The only people I have ever had conflicts with were the mods Shiny and Sam, and possibly Cooone and Jess" and that is true, I haven't had any conflict with any other mod or user.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td></tr>
</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692819&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:37, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:37:11Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Sorry, but over your time in the server you consistently responded to any and all moderation with extreme defensiveness, and whenever a staff member gave you any form of warning you went and complained to another moderator about them being mean to you - as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes now! You were ultimately banned because you decided to complain to a mod about Shiny doing nothing more than pointing out how distasteful the manga "Axis Powers Hetalia" - a name that should give anybody with a normal moral compass pause! - was, and deleting the art of it that you posted. You have shown nothing but contempt for the idea of moderating your behaviour as part of a shared space and so we will not be allowing you to rejoin the Discord server. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 22:30, 13 May 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Sorry, but over your time in the server you consistently responded to any and all moderation with extreme defensiveness, and whenever a staff member gave you any form of warning you went and complained to another moderator about them being mean to you - as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes now! You were ultimately banned because you decided to complain to a mod about Shiny doing nothing more than pointing out how distasteful the manga "Axis Powers Hetalia" - a name that should give anybody with a normal moral compass pause! - was, and deleting the art of it that you posted. You have shown nothing but contempt for the idea of moderating your behaviour as part of a shared space and so we will not be allowing you to rejoin the Discord server. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 22:30, 13 May 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">not </del>was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">in response </del>to all the times they have ever spoken to me, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">modding or otherwise</del>. I had no reason to believe Shiny <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">wouldn't </del>bother to listen. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">nor </ins>was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">due </ins>to all the times they have ever spoken to me, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">even outside of moderation</ins>. I had no reason to believe Shiny <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">would </ins>bother to listen <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to me</ins>. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad any more, I merely brought it up for context on our interaction. After all I did say "The only people I have ever had conflicts with were the mods Shiny and Sam, and possibly Cooone and Jess" and that is true, I haven't had any conflict with any other mod or user.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad any more, I merely brought it up for context on our interaction. After all I did say "The only people I have ever had conflicts with were the mods Shiny and Sam, and possibly Cooone and Jess" and that is true, I haven't had any conflict with any other mod or user.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td></tr>
</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692818&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:36, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:36:02Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is in response to all the times they have ever spoken to me, modding or otherwise. I had no reason to believe Shiny wouldn't bother to listen. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is in response to all the times they have ever spoken to me, modding or otherwise. I had no reason to believe Shiny wouldn't bother to listen. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad any more, I merely brought it up for context on <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">out </del>interaction. After all I did say "The only people I have ever had conflicts with were the mods Shiny and Sam, and possibly Cooone and Jess" and that is true, I haven't had any conflict with any other mod or user.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad any more, I merely brought it up for context on <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">our </ins>interaction. After all I did say "The only people I have ever had conflicts with were the mods Shiny and Sam, and possibly Cooone and Jess" and that is true, I haven't had any conflict with any other mod or user.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td></tr>
</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692817&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:35, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:35:28Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Sorry, but over your time in the server you consistently responded to any and all moderation with extreme defensiveness, and whenever a staff member gave you any form of warning you went and complained to another moderator about them being mean to you - as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes now! You were ultimately banned because you decided to complain to a mod about Shiny doing nothing more than pointing out how distasteful the manga "Axis Powers Hetalia" - a name that should give anybody with a normal moral compass pause! - was, and deleting the art of it that you posted. You have shown nothing but contempt for the idea of moderating your behaviour as part of a shared space and so we will not be allowing you to rejoin the Discord server. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 22:30, 13 May 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Sorry, but over your time in the server you consistently responded to any and all moderation with extreme defensiveness, and whenever a staff member gave you any form of warning you went and complained to another moderator about them being mean to you - as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes now! You were ultimately banned because you decided to complain to a mod about Shiny doing nothing more than pointing out how distasteful the manga "Axis Powers Hetalia" - a name that should give anybody with a normal moral compass pause! - was, and deleting the art of it that you posted. You have shown nothing but contempt for the idea of moderating your behaviour as part of a shared space and so we will not be allowing you to rejoin the Discord server. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 22:30, 13 May 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is in response to all the times they have ever spoken to me, modding or otherwise. I <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">didn't </del>believe <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">they </del>wouldn't bother to listen <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">to what I had to say</del>. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to someone is in response to all the times they have ever spoken to me, modding or otherwise. I <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">had no reason to </ins>believe <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Shiny </ins>wouldn't bother to listen. I was only asking for advice, I wasn't complaining about Shiny.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692816&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:33, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:33:07Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">another mod </del>is in response to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">al </del>the times they have ever spoken to me, modding or otherwise. I didn't believe they <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">would </del>bother to listen to what I had to say.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">someone </ins>is in response to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">all </ins>the times they have ever spoken to me, modding or otherwise. I didn't believe they <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">wouldn't </ins>bother to listen to what I had to say. I <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">was only asking for advice</ins>, I <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">wasn</ins>'t <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">complaining about </ins>Shiny.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad at them any longer, I merely brought them up because I am worried. Sam made an assumption of my person and would not believe my apology nor would he believe that it was possible for me to not know. And I am worried that such a thing will repeat on another innocent.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Also, how is it "as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes"? That I do not understand. I am not mad at them any longer, I merely brought them up because I am worried. Sam made an assumption of my person and would not believe my apology nor would he believe that it was possible for me to not know. And I am worried that such a thing will repeat on another innocent.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I do not have contempt for being moderated. Its just so happened that the only times it has happened it was by two people who were extremally aggressive. Yes I was overly defensive, however extreme defensiveness came in response to extreme aggression. I do not mind being moderated, I just prefer it to be a peaceful talk.</div></td></tr>
</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692814&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:31, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:31:58Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust, based on how they have been helpful in the past, to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity. The reason I brought up Shiny to another mod is in response to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">al </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">times </ins>they have <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ever spoken </ins>to me, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">modding or otherwise</ins>. I didn't believe they would bother to listen to what I had to say.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The reason I brought up Shiny to another mod is in response to the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">last time </del>they <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">modded me, which included deleting something they could </del>have <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">just asked me to remove myself or edit, and as mentioned, when I tried </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be peaceful with Shiny in dms so as to not bother others, they called </del>me <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a whiner for not wanting to bother others. Furthermore I wasn't mad at them complaining about Hetlaia</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I was worried about how aggressive they were being as they deleted and cussed unnecessarily which only reminded me the last time Shiny modded they did the aforementioned "whiner" comment--the post that they deleted didn't matter to me it was that they did an action that only served to remeind me the time they scared me</del>. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Plus, based on how they generally act </del>I didn't believe they would bother to listen to what I had to say.</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr>
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</table>Trouslehttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Trousle&diff=1692813&oldid=prevTrousle at 18:30, 14 May 20232023-05-14T18:30:55Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Sorry, but over your time in the server you consistently responded to any and all moderation with extreme defensiveness, and whenever a staff member gave you any form of warning you went and complained to another moderator about them being mean to you - as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes now! You were ultimately banned because you decided to complain to a mod about Shiny doing nothing more than pointing out how distasteful the manga "Axis Powers Hetalia" - a name that should give anybody with a normal moral compass pause! - was, and deleting the art of it that you posted. You have shown nothing but contempt for the idea of moderating your behaviour as part of a shared space and so we will not be allowing you to rejoin the Discord server. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 22:30, 13 May 2023 (EDT)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: Sorry, but over your time in the server you consistently responded to any and all moderation with extreme defensiveness, and whenever a staff member gave you any form of warning you went and complained to another moderator about them being mean to you - as demonstrated by how you're bringing back these old gripes now! You were ultimately banned because you decided to complain to a mod about Shiny doing nothing more than pointing out how distasteful the manga "Axis Powers Hetalia" - a name that should give anybody with a normal moral compass pause! - was, and deleting the art of it that you posted. You have shown nothing but contempt for the idea of moderating your behaviour as part of a shared space and so we will not be allowing you to rejoin the Discord server. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 22:30, 13 May 2023 (EDT)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I wasn't complaining to Shiny about Hetalia, not was I complaining to another mod about Shiny. Shiny has scared me in the past by being very aggressive and this seemed like just another aggressive moment, not a modding. So I was asking for advice, the mod I talked to was someone I thought I could trust<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, based on how they have been helpful in the past, </ins>to give me advice on how to deal with someone being aggressive. Neither users mod status mattered to me nor did it factor in any capacity.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The reason I brought up Shiny to another mod is in response to the last time they modded me, which included deleting something they could have just asked me to remove myself or edit, and as mentioned, when I tried to be peaceful with Shiny in dms so as to not bother others, they called me a whiner for not wanting to bother others. Furthermore I wasn't mad at them complaining about Hetlaia, I was worried about how aggressive they were being as they deleted and cussed unnecessarily which only reminded me the last time Shiny modded they did the aforementioned "whiner" comment--the post that they deleted didn't matter to me it was that they did an action that only served to remeind me the time they scared me. Plus, based on how they generally act I didn't believe they would bother to listen to what I had to say.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The reason I brought up Shiny to another mod is in response to the last time they modded me, which included deleting something they could have just asked me to remove myself or edit, and as mentioned, when I tried to be peaceful with Shiny in dms so as to not bother others, they called me a whiner for not wanting to bother others. Furthermore I wasn't mad at them complaining about Hetlaia, I was worried about how aggressive they were being as they deleted and cussed unnecessarily which only reminded me the last time Shiny modded they did the aforementioned "whiner" comment--the post that they deleted didn't matter to me it was that they did an action that only served to remeind me the time they scared me. Plus, based on how they generally act I didn't believe they would bother to listen to what I had to say.</div></td></tr>
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