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Hi, I'm also active as Alienbot on TFW2005. I've written a few fanfics there about [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-fiction/285660-movie-spotlight-megatron.html Megatron] [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-fiction/289223-movie-spotlight-starscream.html Starscream], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-fiction/285115-movieverse-spotlight-soundwave.html Soundwave], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-fiction/318890-spotlight-fallen.html The Fallen] and [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-fan-fiction/321489-spotlight-alpha-trion.html Alpha Trion].
Hi, [https://bsky.app/profile/cctabet.bsky.social my name is Chris], and I wrote several Transformers-related articles during my time at Multiversity Comics.


*[[User:Alientraveller/Alpha Trion]]
* [http://www.multiversitycomics.com/longform/tfs-at-40/ Transformers at 40: What the Robots in Disguise Taught Me About Being Human] - 2024
* [http://www.multiversitycomics.com/longform/live-action-tf-tv/ Ten Transformers Who Deserve a Live-Action Paramount+ Spin-Off] - 2024
* [http://www.multiversitycomics.com/reviews/transformers-beast-wars-1/ ''Transformers: Beast Wars'' #1 review] - 2021
* [http://www.multiversitycomics.com/reviews/bumblebee/ ''Bumblebee'' movie review] - 2018
* [http://www.multiversitycomics.com/longform/idw-transformers-ending/ It’s Over, Finished: The End of IDW’s Transformers] - 2018


IMO, ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)| Prime]]'' will be to ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron|Exodus]]'' and ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron| War for Cybertron]]'' what ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' was to the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|G1 comic]] and [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]]. I have ten predictions for the show:
I'm still writing about Transformers FWIW:


1) The [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]] will be or has been destroyed, as with the films.
* [https://ko-fi.com/post/In-Memoriam-The-TRANSFORMERS-ONE-sequel-well-nev-S6S71LHXH2 Just Imagine: The TRANSFORMERS ONE sequel we'll never get]


2) [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s Ringwraith face and [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]'s [[Michael Jackson]] one is the result of Dark Energon deprivation.
And I had work published about Transformers before that:


3) [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]], [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]], [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] are not dead, just off-world.
* [https://offcolour.org/2017/06/29/transformers-at-10/ ‘Transformers’ at 10: Why I stopped caring about a cinematic universe filled with boundless potential, and how I could again] - 2017


4) [[Unicron]] will only appear in flashback as [[Dark Energon]] is what remains of his body, and [[Liege Maximo]] or the [[Quintesson]]s will be the unholy cosmic big bad instead trying to (re)claim Earth, Cybertron or the Matrix etc. when the show ends.
==Transformers I would like==
*G1 comics Ratchet (complete with realistic ambulance alt mode)
*''Animated'' season four Ironhide, or something like it
*''MTMTE'' Hot Rod
*''MTMTE'' Cyclonus
*Deluxe Rung
*Victorion
*Nautica
*Aileron


5) Alpha will be there as could [[Vector Prime]] and [[Nexus Prime]], what with Vector's face being the Autobot symbol and Nexus dimension-hopping for the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] (which became the Matrix).
==Surprisingly many thoughts about the Thirteen==


6) The Primes's prehistoric battle with [[The Fallen]] (or should I say Megatronus) for humanity's fate will be referenced. He might show up again or be dead, again depends on the timeframe, and make fun of Megatron for taking his name.
I like the Thirteen, who've got me back into collecting the toys, as I'm a big ''Lord of the Rings'' fan; it's nice Transformers effectively has its own take on the Valar, and Megatronus and Solus Prime have huge Sauron/Galadriel energy. (Although I still imagine them being voiced by Virginia Madsen, and the late, great [[Tony Todd]].)


7) Optimus's inevitable death results in Megatron and Starscream battling for the Matrix. Seriously, they both want to be Prime badly. Such a dramatic event would not be relegated to the Movie-style backstory.
I used to think '''Omegatron''' should've have been the name of the Fallen, until I saw ''Transformers One'', and realised it's much easier for a kid to understand how Megatron would be derived from Megatronus.


8) Shockwave will betray Megatron, he has forseen it.
Like many, I'm not a fan of the idea of Optimus being the [[Thirteenth Prime]]. I think IDW '05 did well with the concept, but given how different their cosmology was, it really was an exception that proves the rule. (While on the subject: I think it would've absolutely made sense for the Quintessons to be the Transformers' creators in that continuity, especially with how it skewed older.) If I were overseeing my own Transformers series, I'd pick between the following instead:


9) Female Autobots will be explained as the result of the female member of the 13 mentioned in a Q&A. Budding may come into it, but as with G2 it will be explained the AllSpark was created by Primus to replace that method of reproduction.
* [[Rung (G1)|Rung]], bringing them full circle


10) The Dinobots will be once-great warriors who've gone senile as a result of their long stasis-lock on Earth, reconciling their childish cartoon personalities with the "tricking his enemies into believing he's an idiot" comic book Grimlock.
* Rodimus Prime, further preventing the implication a Prime is simply the best because he's a reincarnation


Pretenders will be Technorganic Minicons or monsters like Thunderwing and Bludgeon, they weren't mentioned in ''Exodus'' so it could go either or both ways.
* [[Nova Prime]], although like Zeta and Sentinel, I still see him as an interim Prime (also Nova would lie about being the Thirteenth)


IMO, '''Omegatron''' should have been the name of [[The Fallen]], but at least Megatronus sounds Greek.
* [[Solomus|Solomus/Tyrest]], who is a member of the Thirteen in the pre-Aligned continuities now. However, I think it'd be more interesting to treat the [[Guiding Hand]] as Primus's fellow [[Light God]]s.


==Movieverse classes==
* Omega Supreme, who's certainly old enough, though like Optimus, the character deserves better than the baggage of being an original Prime.
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] / [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Cliffjumper]]
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] / [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] / [[Runamuck (ROTF)|Runamuck]]
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] / [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] / [[Elita-1 (ROTF)|Elita-1]]
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] / [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]]
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] / [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] / [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] / [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]]
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] / [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] / [[Spinister (ROTF)|Spinister]] / [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] / [[Whirl (ROTF)|Whirl]]
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] / [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl / Devastator]] / [[Tankor (ROTF)|Tankor]]
*[[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]] / [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon]]
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] / [[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]] / [[Override (TF 2010)|Override]] / [[Wreckloose (ROTF)|Wreckloose]]
*[[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]] / [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]]
*Bludgeon / [[Banzaitron]]
*[[Depthcharge (ROTF)|Depthcharge]] / [[Sonar (ROTF)|Sonar]]
*[[Incinerator (Movie)|Incinerator]] / [[Ruination (ROTF)|Ruination]] / [[Springer (ROTF)|Springer]] / [[Blades (ROTF)|Blades]] / [[Duststorm (TF 2010)|Duststorm]]
*[[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] / [[Thrust (ROTF)|Thrust]]
*[[Blazemaster]] / Evac / [[Tailwhip]]
*[[Brawn (ROTF)|Brawn]] / [[Rollbar (RPM)|Rollbar]] / [[Fallback (TF 2010)|Fallback]]
*[[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] / [[Gears (ROTF)|Gears]]
*Dead End / [[Nightbeat (ROTF)|Nightbeat]]
*[[Rollbar (ROTF)|Rollbar]] / [[Wideload (ROTF)|Wideload]]
*[[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knock Out]] / [[Reverb (ROTF)|Reverb]] / [[Backfire (TF 2010)|Backfire]]
*[[Scattorshot (ROTF)|Scattorshot]] / [[Flak (TF 2010)|Flak]] / [[Firetrap]]
*[[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]] / [[Sunspot]]
*[[Dirge (ROTF)|Dirge]] / [[Jetblade]]
*[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] / [[Axor]]
*[[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]] / [[Oil Pan]]
*[[Hailstorm (TF 2010)|Hailstorm]] / [[Mindset (TF 2010)|Mindset]]


;[[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]]s
* [[Last Autobot]], another official member of the pre-Aligned Thirteen, who's basically what Omega should've been. I think it would make a lot of sense, if only because it would completely explain his absence.
*'''[[Constructicon Warrior]]s''': [[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]] / [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]]
*'''[[Constructicon Scout|Scout]]s''': [[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]] / [[Scrapmetal (ROTF)|Scrapmetal]]
*[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] / [[Scavenger (ROTF)|Scavenger]]
*[[Scrapper (Movie)|Scrapper]] / [[Dirt Boss (ROTF)|Dirt Boss]] / [[Deadlift]]
*[[Mixmaster (Movie)|Mixmaster 1]]
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster 2]]
*[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]]s / [[Bonecrusher (ROTF Constructicon)|Bonecrusher]]
*[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]] / [[Hook (ROTF)|Hook]]
*[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]]s
*[[Trample]] and [[Tread]]


;[[Protectobot (ROTF)|Protectobot]]s
I wrote this before I read the notes on the Thirteenth's page, where it becomes apparent Hasbro simply forgot about or weren't aware of the Last Autobot when creating the group, so he may've been them if they had been.
*[[Protectobot Scout|Scout]]s
*[[Protectobot Sniper|Sniper]]s
*[[Protectobot Warrior|Warrior]]s
;[[Aerialbot (ROTF)|Aerialbot]]s
*[[Aerialbot Scout 1|Scout 1]]
*[[Aerialbot Scout 2|Scout 2]]
;[[Combaticon (ROTF)|Combaticon]]s
*[[Combaticon Scout|Scout]]
*[[Combaticon Sniper|Sniper]]
*[[Combaticon Warrior|Warrior]]
;[[Stunticon (ROTF)|Stunticon]]s
*[[Stunticon Scout 1|Scout 1]]
*[[Stunticon Scout 2|Scout 2]]
*[[Gold Stunticon Scout 2]]
*[[Stunticon Sniper|Sniper]]
;[[Omnibot (ROTF)|Omnibot]]s


;[[Drone]]s
In any case, it would be nice if AOTP (or the next toy line) included alternate Primes, including a rerelease of the transforming ''Ark'' as the Last Autobot, as well as the ''Legacy'' version of Alpha Trion.
*'''[[Class Alpha drone unit]]s''': [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] / [[Overcast (Movie)|Overcast]] / [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]
*'''[[Class Beta drone unit]]s''': [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]]
*[[Landmine (Movie)|Landmine]] / [[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]] / [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]] / [[Beachcomber (ROTF)|Beachcomber]] / [[Crankstart]]
*[[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] / [[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist]]
*[[Dropkick]] / [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]] / [[Blowpipe (ROTF)|Blowpipe]]
*[[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]] / [[Camshaft (Movie)|Camshaft]]
*[[Seeker Sniper]]


;[[Power Core Combiners]]
==Some corporate crossovers==
*[[Huffer (PCC)|Huffer]] / [[Crankcase (PCC)|Crankcase]]
[[:Category:External properties]]
*[[Caliburst (PCC)|Caliburst]] / [[Darkray]]
 
*[[Searchlight (PCC)|Searchlight]] / [[Windburn]]
*''[[Animorphs]]'' - [[Scholastic]]
*[[Backwind]] / [[Beacon]]
*''[[Catching Fire'' - "
*[[Smolder]] / [[Stakeout (PCC)|Stakeout]]
*''[[Snoopy]]'' - 39% owned by [[Sony]] Music Entertainment, licensed to Apple, and... holy cow, ''The Peanuts Movie'' is owned by Disney!
*[[Chopster]] / [[Razorbeam]]
 
*[[Bombshock (PCC)|Bombshock]] / [[Steelshot]]
;Disney
*[[Skyburst]] / [[Darkstream]]
*''[[Old Soldier|Gargoyles]]''
*''[[Princess Merida|Brave]]''
*''[[Buzz Lightyear|Toy Story]]''
*''[[Herbie]]''/''[[The Love Bug]]''
*''[[The X-Files: Conspiracy: The Transformers|The X-Files]]''*
*''[[Alice in Wonderland]]''
*''The [[Fly]]''*
*''[[Armageddon (film)|Armageddon]]''
*''[[Fight Club]]''*
*''[[Titanic]]''* (Par co-production)
*''[[Omacronian|Futurama]]''*
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki> denotes a property acquired from Fox
 
;Par
*''[[Kenny McCormick|South Park]]''
*''[[Gunfight at the O.K. Corral]]''
*''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' (1953 and 2005)
*''[[Zulu]]''
*''[[The Honeymooners]]'' ([[CBS]])
*''The [[Twilight Zone]]''
 
;Universal
*''The [[40-Year Old Virgin]]''
*''[[Cats]]''
*''[[Cheers]]''
*''[[Community]]''
*''[[Quantum Leap]]''
 
;Warner Bros.
*''[[Babylon 5]]''
*''[[C-beams|Blade Runner]]''
*''[[Sherlock Holmes]]''
*''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' (pre-2009)
 
;MGM
*''[[High Noon (film)|High Noon]]''
*''[[Spaceballs]]''
*''[[Mattel|Masters of the Universe]]'' (1987 and 2026)
 
*''[[Transformers vs. The Terminator|Terminator]]'' - MGM (via Orion), Sony, WB, Par, Fox
*''[[ALF]]'' - co-produced by WB, broadcast by NBC
*''[[Pikachu Car|Pokémon]]'' co-owned by [[Nintendo]], several movies distributed by WB

Latest revision as of 14:52, 20 September 2025

Hi, my name is Chris, and I wrote several Transformers-related articles during my time at Multiversity Comics.

I'm still writing about Transformers FWIW:

And I had work published about Transformers before that:

Transformers I would like

[edit]
  • G1 comics Ratchet (complete with realistic ambulance alt mode)
  • Animated season four Ironhide, or something like it
  • MTMTE Hot Rod
  • MTMTE Cyclonus
  • Deluxe Rung
  • Victorion
  • Nautica
  • Aileron

Surprisingly many thoughts about the Thirteen

[edit]

I like the Thirteen, who've got me back into collecting the toys, as I'm a big Lord of the Rings fan; it's nice Transformers effectively has its own take on the Valar, and Megatronus and Solus Prime have huge Sauron/Galadriel energy. (Although I still imagine them being voiced by Virginia Madsen, and the late, great Tony Todd.)

I used to think Omegatron should've have been the name of the Fallen, until I saw Transformers One, and realised it's much easier for a kid to understand how Megatron would be derived from Megatronus.

Like many, I'm not a fan of the idea of Optimus being the Thirteenth Prime. I think IDW '05 did well with the concept, but given how different their cosmology was, it really was an exception that proves the rule. (While on the subject: I think it would've absolutely made sense for the Quintessons to be the Transformers' creators in that continuity, especially with how it skewed older.) If I were overseeing my own Transformers series, I'd pick between the following instead:

  • Rung, bringing them full circle
  • Rodimus Prime, further preventing the implication a Prime is simply the best because he's a reincarnation
  • Nova Prime, although like Zeta and Sentinel, I still see him as an interim Prime (also Nova would lie about being the Thirteenth)
  • Solomus/Tyrest, who is a member of the Thirteen in the pre-Aligned continuities now. However, I think it'd be more interesting to treat the Guiding Hand as Primus's fellow Light Gods.
  • Omega Supreme, who's certainly old enough, though like Optimus, the character deserves better than the baggage of being an original Prime.
  • Last Autobot, another official member of the pre-Aligned Thirteen, who's basically what Omega should've been. I think it would make a lot of sense, if only because it would completely explain his absence.

I wrote this before I read the notes on the Thirteenth's page, where it becomes apparent Hasbro simply forgot about or weren't aware of the Last Autobot when creating the group, so he may've been them if they had been.

In any case, it would be nice if AOTP (or the next toy line) included alternate Primes, including a rerelease of the transforming Ark as the Last Autobot, as well as the Legacy version of Alpha Trion.

Some corporate crossovers

[edit]

Category:External properties

  • Animorphs - Scholastic
  • [[Catching Fire - "
  • Snoopy - 39% owned by Sony Music Entertainment, licensed to Apple, and... holy cow, The Peanuts Movie is owned by Disney!
Disney

* denotes a property acquired from Fox

Par
Universal
Warner Bros.
MGM
  • Terminator - MGM (via Orion), Sony, WB, Par, Fox
  • ALF - co-produced by WB, broadcast by NBC
  • Pokémon co-owned by Nintendo, several movies distributed by WB
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