File talk:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg

"Note, this picture is actually Backwards." Uhh, what? No it's not.--86.87.28.191 15:50, 12 June 2010 (EDT)

Shockwave's gun arm should be on his left hand. It certainly is in the commercial. --ItsWalky 15:55, 12 June 2010 (EDT)

Except for one thing, left-handed guns do not exist in the game.--86.87.28.191 15:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

What ItsWalky means is, Shockwaves arm that is itself a gun is supposed to be Shockwaves left arm.--Roni134730 15:46, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Supposed to be doesn't mean that it is. Devastator is supposed to be crazy weird green and purple but that doesn't mean his ROTF incarnation is that either. He assumed something and after being pointed out that he's incorrect he slips into immediate defense instead of just admitting that everyone makes mistakes sometimes.--86.87.28.191 16:18, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

But those are different universes, and for now it seems War for Cybertron Shockwave is the G1 character, who had a gun on his left hand. --NCZ 16:21, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with different incarnations. Walky just said his gun is on his left arm in the commercial. Either the image is wrong or the commercial is. - Cattleprod 16:22, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

The commercial definitely is. As there is no support for left-handed shooting in WFC.--86.87.28.191 16:40, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

In the commercial, Shockwave is firing a gun he is holding in his right hand rather than his gun arm. --abates 16:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

I really feel this entire discussion could have been avoided if we were paying attention to what we were talking about to begin with. --ItsWalky 17:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Shockwave's gun-arm is just an arm shaped like a gun in WFC, since all characters only carry guns in their right hands. The picture is backwards, the commercial/game isn't.--Carrion 18:05, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Okay, let me try to get across the entirety of what I and others have been trying to say: In War For Cybertron Shockwave's trailers he has his gun arm (as in the arm that is a gun) on his left side. In the trailers he only fires using the gun that he is holding in his right hand, he never uses the gun that is his left arm. Since the trailers show proof that Shockwave's left arm is the one that is a gun, this picture is backwards. I know I used a lot of bold, but I hope this message was clear enough that this debate will end--Roni134730 18:15, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

I think it's actually over now, unless 86.87.28.191 wants to try to keep claiming that this picture is not backwards. --abates 18:24, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

Wow. You just posted a comment entirely as flaimbait. Are you proud of that? But yeah it's over. If Walky had posted an actual description instead of sloppy keywords, or heck, even if he had just replied with a decent answer, then it would have been clear that he has both a gun and a gun-arm at the same time, and this whole thing would have been avoided.--86.87.28.191 15:33, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

If you actually looked at the image's history, you would have noted that I had nothing to do with the uploading of this image nor its description. I do not know about the game's weapon-handedness, and I only responded to you with what I know: Shockwave's gun arm is on the left in his commercial, and on the right on the image as it was presented to us. I cannot explain to you things I am not familiar with, only what I observe in the materials being discussed. --ItsWalky 16:18, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

86.87.28.191 are you saying you didn't know Shockwave both uses a gun and has a gun attached to his arm? P.S. ItsWalky seemed perfectly clear to me, and what do you mean "flamebait"?--Roni134730 19:19, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, that's what caused the misunderstanding. --86.87.28.191 12:28, 15 June 2010 (EDT)

I'm sorry. My comment was not intended as flamebait, and I apologise if it came across that way. I'll try to watch how I word things in future. --abates 19:49, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, i'm sorry too. For some reason TFWiki brings out the worst in me and i always tend to get cranky and a pain in the ass here.--86.87.28.191 12:28, 15 June 2010 (EDT)