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: A good number of articles on this wiki are not human-centric.  (For example, [[human]].)  Derik's at least half right, in that there's a difference between "the sun" and "the Sun."  "The sun" can be any star that's the center of whatever solar system you're in.  (Example: Search google for "Return of Optimus Prime sun" and you'll get a whoooole lotta common useage of "sun" to refer to the star that was going nova in that episode.)  Transformers are a space-faring race, so we should at least take that into account.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
: A good number of articles on this wiki are not human-centric.  (For example, [[human]].)  Derik's at least half right, in that there's a difference between "the sun" and "the Sun."  "The sun" can be any star that's the center of whatever solar system you're in.  (Example: Search google for "Return of Optimus Prime sun" and you'll get a whoooole lotta common useage of "sun" to refer to the star that was going nova in that episode.)  Transformers are a space-faring race, so we should at least take that into account.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


::Well, I did create this article specifically to be about Earth's sun. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I did create this article specifically to be about Earth's sun. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)  
:::But what about the Energon Sun? You are ethnocentric.


::Oooh!  Oooh!  Can we move it to [[Sun (Sun)]] to go with [[Moon (moon)]]!?  ^_^  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oooh!  Oooh!  Can we move it to <nowiki>[[Sun (Sun)]]</nowiki> to go with [[Moon (moon)]]!?  ^_^  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I've put a redirect at [[Sun (sun)]].  I figure later on we can make things more confusing by putting another article at [[Sun (star)]] which describes suns in general and mentions a few prominent ones.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 17:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::I've put a redirect at <nowiki>[[Sun (sun)]]</nowiki>.  I figure later on we can make things more confusing by putting another article at <nowiki>[[Sun (star)]]</nowiki> which describes suns in general and mentions a few prominent ones.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 17:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Incidentally, the word "sun" starts to look really weird after you type it enough times.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 17:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>
:::Incidentally, the word "sun" starts to look really weird after you type it enough times.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 17:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
:sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sunsunsunsun.  You're right. When I was little I noticed that this happened if you said most words too many times in a row.  It was an occasional pastime of mine.  Well, I could have broken windows or something...--[[User:69.95.190.147|69.95.190.147]] 14:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 
==TMBG==
I'm not sure exactly what in my rewrite that was reverted to because it has something to do with TMBG, so I unreverted it.  Steve's the astrophysicist.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:The article used to have these lyrics: ''The Sun is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees.''--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::Then you should probably just try to reinsert those lyrics, and not revert Steve-o's entire massive rewrite!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Done. Now, if the lyrics are astrophysically incorrect (and I wouldn't be able to judge), then it should be replaced with an entirely new sentence instead of mangling the reference. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 17:40, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I had no idea that sentence was from a song.  I figured the list of facts was.  Anyway, the line from the song is accurate enough as long it's only talking about main sequence stars like Earth's sun.  I only made any changes in the first place because of Walky's edit where he tried to de-Earthify the article, but it's now back to basically being about only our Sun.  The current arrangement of information is awkward because of this.  If it's going to be a broader article about other stars, there's no sensible way to work in the TMBG line. The list of facts from the song isn't enough?  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Derik's comments - Well, we are humans and this is a TF wiki written by humans on Earth, which is in orbit of a star named Sol, which we usually call 'the Sun' (or literally 'Face of God' in some cultures). Until we get a wiki written by the Transformers where they write about themselves and their 'sun', we can be as Earth-centric as we like. YEAH. --FFN 08:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

A good number of articles on this wiki are not human-centric. (For example, human.) Derik's at least half right, in that there's a difference between "the sun" and "the Sun." "The sun" can be any star that's the center of whatever solar system you're in. (Example: Search google for "Return of Optimus Prime sun" and you'll get a whoooole lotta common useage of "sun" to refer to the star that was going nova in that episode.) Transformers are a space-faring race, so we should at least take that into account. --ItsWalky 08:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I did create this article specifically to be about Earth's sun. --KilMichaelMcC 12:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
But what about the Energon Sun? You are ethnocentric.
Oooh! Oooh! Can we move it to [[Sun (Sun)]] to go with Moon (moon)!? ^_^ --Steve-o 15:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I've put a redirect at [[Sun (sun)]]. I figure later on we can make things more confusing by putting another article at [[Sun (star)]] which describes suns in general and mentions a few prominent ones. --Andrusi 17:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Incidentally, the word "sun" starts to look really weird after you type it enough times. --Andrusi 17:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
sun sun sun sun sun sun sun sunsunsunsun. You're right. When I was little I noticed that this happened if you said most words too many times in a row. It was an occasional pastime of mine. Well, I could have broken windows or something...--69.95.190.147 14:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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I'm not sure exactly what in my rewrite that was reverted to because it has something to do with TMBG, so I unreverted it. Steve's the astrophysicist. --ItsWalky 17:21, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

The article used to have these lyrics: The Sun is a mass of incandescent gas, a gigantic nuclear furnace where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees.--FortMax 17:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Then you should probably just try to reinsert those lyrics, and not revert Steve-o's entire massive rewrite! --ItsWalky 17:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Done. Now, if the lyrics are astrophysically incorrect (and I wouldn't be able to judge), then it should be replaced with an entirely new sentence instead of mangling the reference. - Jackpot 17:40, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I had no idea that sentence was from a song. I figured the list of facts was. Anyway, the line from the song is accurate enough as long it's only talking about main sequence stars like Earth's sun. I only made any changes in the first place because of Walky's edit where he tried to de-Earthify the article, but it's now back to basically being about only our Sun. The current arrangement of information is awkward because of this. If it's going to be a broader article about other stars, there's no sensible way to work in the TMBG line. The list of facts from the song isn't enough? --Steve-o 18:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)