Talk:Order of the Witwiccans

Not sure whether or not to count Sam or his grandfather as members. I mean on the one hand Burton says he's the last Witwiccan which would suggest Sam isn't one, but then Burton also says Stephen Hawking is a Witwiccan, and Hawking is still alive... --abates (talk) 08:08, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Also members of the order should probably just get redirected to this page unless they have other fiction to cover. --abates (talk) 08:12, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

If Rick Astley can get an article from being mentioned in a letters page from the U.K., surely people mentioned in a movie seen worldwide deserve an article as well? Escargon (talk) 08:25, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Not if it's a one-sentence smug-cute article to say "we know nothing about this mystery person except they were a Witwiccan!" It's. just. pointless. - Chris McFeely (talk) 09:35, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Well then, we should really re-evaluate our old articles. Lee Iacocca, Princess Diana, Elton John, the like, because they have nothing to them as well. And while I think it's probably needed, I know Wallky thinks otherwise. Escargon (talk) 09:55, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Hawking is still alive IRL. Do we know he's still alive in Bayverse? - TBR (talk) 08:34, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

I don't think we do. Though there's also the possibility he retired or was kicked out, I guess. --abates (talk) 18:00, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Well I created Winston Churchill's article after the news report on Nazi banners at his house, but since his name isn't mentioned at all in the finished film, should Churchill still get an article? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 11:29, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

His picture's up on the wall. I mean, I don't think Queen Victoria is name-checked, but there's a picture of her on the wall, so I included her in the list. --abates (talk) 18:00, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

It's articles like these that really suffer from a lack of a proper novelization. --Jimsorenson (talk) 18:20, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

01:12:30 On the movie if anyone has it. Sir Burton literally says "This is the Witwiccan family tree: Merlin, Viviana, goes back 40 generations," indicating that Witwiccans are descendants of Merlin. Vivane is the last Witwiccan, not Burton. He even says seconds later, "My own family had some small part in all this," indicating that he is not a Witwiccan. That's also why all his family portraits are in a separate wing of the castle. You've got all your Witwiccan pages wrong. Every single mention of Witwiccan needs to be checked and corrected. Startop (talk) 6:35, 2 June 2018 (EDT)

A moment later, Burton says "we were quite the club," including himself in the Witwiccan organization. He is authorized and able to induct Simmons into the organization, and introduces him to the Prime Minister as a member of it. Not all members of the Witwiccans are descendants of Merlin. - Chris McFeely (talk) 09:48, 3 June 2018 (EDT)