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'''Great War (BW)'''
=The Stage of Battle is the 2nd War... Beast Wars, Maximize!!=
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|title="The Stage of Battle is the 2nd War... Beast Wars, Maximize!!"
|japanese=闘いの舞台は{{ruby|2|セカンド}}戦争... ...ビーストウォーズ、変身!!
|romaji=Tatakai no Butai wa Sekando Sensō...Bīsuto Wōzu, Henshin!!
|date=Spring [[1998]]
|packaged with=Spring 1998 Japanese ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars (Japanese toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toy releases
|continuity=[[Micro-continuity|Its own]] (see "Continuity" below)
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{{disambig3|Great War}}
'''New leaders are appointed as a new war begins.'''
:''The Great War is an historical event from the [[Beast Era]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{TOC}}
Sharing the same name as the legendary [[Great War (G1)|civil war]] fought between the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s, the '''Great War''' was a brief conflict fought between the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] prior to the ratification of the [[Pax Cybertronia]].
==Synopsis==
While [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] are off fighting their own [[Beast Wars (event)|life-or-death struggle]], a new conflict, the "2nd War", is about to unfold on a [[Gaia|planet]] within a [[Solar System|star system]] located in a remote part of the [[Milky Way|galaxy]]. The participants of this conflict are members of the heroic [[Maximal]] Space Guard and the evil [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] Armored Corps, respectively. Their battle is fought over a mysterious weapon hidden in ancient ruins of the planet, a weapon known as the "[[Angolmois Energy|Great King of Angolmois]]". It is said that the victor of this conflict, be it Maximal or Predacon, will be decided in the [[July|seventh month]] of the Cosmic Year [[1999]].


==Fiction==
The leaders of both sides of this new conflict are introduced by each of their immediate predecessors. Megatron introduces [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] as the [[Emperor of Destruction|New Emperor of Destruction]], and recalls a time when, back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the two once disagreed over how to conquer the universe. This led to a fight between the two, in which Galvatron bested Megatron after catching him off guard. Though he now acknowledges Galvatron's ambition and his care for those under his command, Megatron also begrudgingly admits that Galvatron may hold enough dignity to succeed him as Emperor.
===''Timelines''===
The [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] between the Autobots and Decepticons finally came to an end with former defeating the latter. Many Decepticons were either destroyed or in hiding, {{storylink|Razorclaw (G1)#Timelines|BotCon 2009 Razorclaw toy bio}} while those who were granted amnesty simply retired. {{storylink|Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Timelines|BotCon 2006 Laserbeak toy bio}} In this new era of peace, the Autobots' next-generation successors, the Maximals, rose to power {{storylink|Theft of the Golden Disk|TCC website ''Max Cops'' Cryotek profile}} and formed the [[Maximal Imperium]]. {{storylink|Dinobot (BW)/toys#Timelines|BotCon 2005 Darksyde Dinobot toy bio}} {{storylink|Tigatron#Timelines 2|BotCon 2006 Unit 2 (Tigatron) toy bio}} {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past|''Timelines'' #1 Megatron profile}} {{storylink|Airazor (BW)#Timelines|TCC Chromia 10 Pilot (Airazor) toy bio}} {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}} However, some Decepticons were not content to simply live under the new rule of the Autobots and Maximals. {{storylink|Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Timelines|BotCon 2006 Laserbeak toy bio}} Namely, the leader of the original [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]], rallied the next generation of the Decepticons—who were also named the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]—under a new calling. {{storylink|Razorclaw (G1)#Timelines|BotCon 2009 Razorclaw toy bio}} His immediate subordinate, [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]], reached out to other disgruntled Decepticons—like [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]—to join their cause, with the promise of new Predacon bodies and a new purpose. {{storylink|Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Timelines|BotCon 2006 Laserbeak toy bio}}


Under Razorclaw's leadership, the Predacons raised an army and declared themselves the "Predacon Empire". {{storylink|Razorclaw (G1)#Timelines|BotCon 2009 Razorclaw toy bio}} They instigated several wars against the Autobots and Maximals, which climaxed in the what became known as the last "Great War". {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}} During this war, a young Maximal named [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] proved himself on the battlefield multiple times, {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past|''Timelines'' #1 Optimus Primal profile}} while on the opposite side, one of the Predacon army's field commanders was a 'bot named [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past|''Timelines'' #1 Megatron profile}} The Predacons were also supported by a Decepticon army {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}} in an arrangement known as the [[Decepticon/Predacon Alliance]]. One of the Decepticon generals in this army was [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]], the former [[Emperor of Destruction]] {{storylink|Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus toy bio}} who had previously led the Decepticons during the waning years of the Autobot/Decepticon Great War. {{storylink|Theft of the Golden Disk|TCC website ''Max Cops'' Cryotek profile}} Having been recreated to fight in this war, Deathsaurus led several successful campaigns against the Maximals and Autobots. {{storylink|Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus toy bio}}
Meanwhile, Optimus Primal introduces the new Maximal leader, [[Lio Convoy (BW)|Lio Convoy]], who was originally an ace in the Maximal Space Guard. Optimus notes that he is strong, valiant, and even kind, but also, admittedly, a bit too frank at times. Nevertheless, Optimus considers him to be an ideal leader, and remains hopeful that he can count on Lio Convoy to do all that he can to help maintain peace throughout the universe.


Right when it seemed like the Predacon Empire might actually win the war, massive blow came when, suddenly, Razorclaw was assassinated by his own kind: [[Ram Horn|Three]] [[Sea Clamp|treacherous]] [[Cicadacon|generals]] had eliminated Razorclaw to assume control of the Predacons for themselves. Together, they formed the [[Tripredacus Council]]. {{storylink|Razorclaw (G1)#Timelines|BotCon 2009 Razorclaw toy bio}} Seeing a better opportunity for himself, the Decepticon Ravage quit his position of serving under Divebomb and joined up with the Council to become one of their agents. {{storylink|Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Timelines|BotCon 2006 Laserbeak toy bio}} Over time, however, the Maximals and Autobots begin to overwhelm the Decepticon/Predacon Alliance. {{storylink|Deathsaurus (G1)#Timelines 2|BotCon 2005 Deathsaurus toy bio}} Worse still, in the final few years of the war, the Decepticons pretty much bowed out of the conflict and abandoned the Predacons to continue the fight on their own. Without the Decepticons' support, the Tripredacus Council launched one last campaign the [[J'kozian sector]] of space, raiding several planets—[[Chakar]], [[Loneedo]], [[Roliak]], [[Nibari]], [[S'elar]], and more—one by one for their resources. In the end, despite these efforts, the Predacons were still defeated by the combined forces of the Maximals and Autobots. The last Great War ended when the Tripredacus Council was left with no choice but to surrender.
==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] (3)
*[[Lio Convoy (BW)|Lio Convoy]] (4)


In the aftermath of the war, a set of temporary terms were drawn up to maintain peace between the Maximals and Predacons until a formal treaty, the [[Pax Cybertronia]], could be written and signed. Though, a number of field commanders refused to lay down arms during this newfound peace, {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}} such as Deathsaurus {{storylink|Descent into Evil}} {{storylink|Intimidation Game}} and Megatron {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past|''Timelines'' #1 Megatron profile}} Still, the once and former Predacon Empire would eventually adapt to peacetime and become the [[Predacon Alliance]]. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}}
|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (1)
*[[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] (2)
}}


===2006 IDW ''Beast Wars'' continuity===
==Quotes==
{{stub|Everything about this war from the ''Beast Wars Sourcebook''}}
'''Galvatron''': "Your time is over, Megatron!"


==Contentious continuity==
To put it bluntly, the very idea that there was ''ever'' such a war—let alone a "Great War"—fought between the Maximals and Predacons during the three centuries set between the end of the Autobot/Decepticon civil war and the theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] is completely, unquestionably, one-hundred-percent ''antithetical'' to the backstory lore of the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' animated series.


In the [[Beast Wars (Part 1)|first episode]], Optimus Primal made the first mention of a past conflict known as "the Great War", which he spoke of in an ambiguous context, only noting the feared possibility of the Predacons acquiring enough [[energon]] to "start it again." Initially, writer/editor [[Bob Forward]] put this reference into the episode simply as a vague explanation for why the Maximals and Predacons were in conflict with each other, as if to suggest that there was this "Great War" previously fought between the two. This idea was immediately dropped, however, when he and fellow series editor [[Larry DiTillio]] observed the fans' reaction to the episode, in which the [[fandom]] assumed that the "Great War" instead referred to the [[Cybertronian Civil Wars]] fought between the Autobots and Decepticons back in the [[The Transformers (franchise)|previous]] [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|two]] generations of the [[Transformers brand|''Transformers'' brand]].<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foy1lnnUjjE Bob Forward interview] from the [[Rhino Entertainment]] DVD release of ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete First Season</ref> Evidently, Forward and DiTillio latched onto the fans' perception, as all later references to the "Great War" made throughout the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon (in "[[Dark Designs]]", "[[Law of the Jungle]]", "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", and "[[The Agenda (Part III)]]) were ''explicitly'' clear that, indeed, it referred to the war fought between the Autobots and Decepticons, ''not'' one fought between the Maximals and Predacons.
'''Lio Convoy''': "Please leave it to me! Optimus, sir!!"


''Beast Wars'' would also refer to a peace treaty called the "[[Pax Cybertronia]]". As it was only mentioned once, it was left to the fans to fill in the blanks on its history. Of course, the obvious intent is that it was the treaty that ended the Autobot/Decepticon Great War, meaning it would have been ratified, at the very latest, within a few years after the Great War's conclusion. From here, the referenced lore of the cartoon's post-Great War history would see the Autobots and Decepticons succeeded by their descendants, the Maximals and Predacons, as the new dominate factions of Cybertron, in a planetwide restructuring process that the ''Beast Wars'' sequel series ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' would later refer to as "the [[Great Upgrade|great upgrade]] from Autobot to Maximal." The first episode of ''Beast Wars'' would also establish that "There has been peace between the Maximals and Predacons for centuries," (as stated by Optimus Primal), while the episode "Dark Designs" would declare the "Great Wars" to have last been fought "three centuries ago" (stated by [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]). Therefore, the intended post-Great War timeline of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon is supposed to be "the Great War, the Pax Cybertronia, the Maximals and Predacons replace Autobots and Decepticons over three centuries of peace and upgrading, and then the Golden Disk theft".
==Continuity==
This catalog story was originally written for the express purpose of explaining the premise of the then-upcoming Japanese-original series ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers#Beast Wars II|Beast Wars II]]'', which had been created to fill the gap left by the delayed Japanese release of the second and third seasons of the American [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]]. Once the first season had finished airing, it would be succeeded by the ''Beast Wars II'' [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|animated series]], along with an accompanying [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (manga)|manga series]] published by ''[[Comic BomBom]]''. This little story was released about a month ahead the ''Beast Wars II'' cartoon's debut, and attempted to explain just how ''Beast Wars II'' was supposed to fit into the continuity of the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon.


With ''all'' of that said, the existence of a separate "Great War" fought between the Maximals and Predacons at some point during the aforementioned three centuries (''in addition'' to the already-established "Great War" between the Autobots and Decepticons) was brought about in certain pieces of ''Beast Wars'' tie-in media written by fan-turned-writer [[Ben Yee|Benson Yee]]. In the days of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon's production, Yee was one of the fans that Forward and DiTillio had interacted with online, serving as a consultant on ''Transformers'' lore for the two of them. As such, Yee was later brought in by [[Fun Publications]] to write stories for both the official Transformers convention [[BotCon]] and the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]], as well as by [[IDW Publishing]] to co-author, with [[Simon Furman]], the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' series of profile books. When writing for both of these companies from [[2005]] to [[2008]], Yee wrote some [[Descent into Evil|comic]] [[Dawn of Future's Past|stories]], toy bios, [[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|character profiles]], and [[The Razor's Edge|one prose story]] that all connected to the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon in some form or another. In each of these works, Yee fleshed out the lore of the cartoon with various new ideas; some of which were his own while others were recycled from dropped concepts developed for the cartoon by Forward and DiTillio.
===Timeframe===
[[File:MegatronGalvatronBW1.jpg|upright=1.4|left|thumb|This didn't happen.]]
As described above in the Synopsis, it is stated that ''Beast Wars II'' is set concurrent to the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] fought between [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] on what was, at the time, not yet revealed to be prehistoric [[Earth]]<ref>At least, in Japan. By March 1998, the English version of the American cartoon had already [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)|revealed]] the planet to be Earth.</ref> (in Japan, the planet was instead known as "[[Energoa]]" prior to its reveal as Earth). But, it was not initially made clear if this meant it took place during the same timeframe as the Beast Wars (since the time travel aspect had not yet been confirmed in the Japanese dub) or if took place in the far future timeframe that Optimus Primal and Megatron's crews had originally come from before traveling back in time to prehistoric Earth. Needless to say, the latter became the most widespread interpretation once it was made clear on both sides of the Pacific that the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon was set on Earth in prehistoric times. Additional support for this interpretation came from the setting ''Beast Wars II'' itself, [[Gaia]]—a post-apocalyptic planet overrun by plant and wildlife—which bore a strong resemblance to Earth (with the manga making even more explicit hints to the planet's identity by featuring city ruins that heavily resembled [[Tokyo]]). The manga even featured guest appearances by Optimus Primal that depicted him as native to the timeframe of ''Beast Wars II''. This notion even bled back over into some American media, with the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' toy bio for ''[[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]]'' [[Cybershark#TM2|Cybershark]] alluding to the ''Beast Wars II'' [[Seacon (BW)|Seacons]] as his contemporaries, while the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' bio for ''[[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]]'' [[Magmatron (BW)#Beast Machines|Magmatron]] positioned the events of ''Beast Wars Neo'' as having occurred before ''Beast Machines''.  


Specifically, Yee brought back Forward's original idea of "the Great War" referring to a past conflict between the Maximals and Predacons, and distinguished it from the ''other'' "Great War" to enable both to coexist within the same timeline. He also shifted the timeframe of the Pax Cybertronia to have ''not'' ended the Autobot/Decepticon war, but rather the Maximal/Predacon war, repositioning the treaty far later in the timeline. Yee's reasoning for this was the belief that, after the Decepticons surrendered to the Autobots, the Maximals and Predacons would have needed some time to hash out the details of the treaty; during this time, the Maximals and Predacons would have had their own Great War since not all hostilities would have yet fully subsided.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20200203170245/https://www.bwtf.com/comicbooks/idw/bwsourcebook1/ Ben Yee's review of ''Beast Wars Sourcebook'' #1]</ref> In the case of the ''Beast Wars Sourcebook'', this also enabled Yee to slot in events akin to ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' prior to the Pax Cybertronia—a decision that stemmed from a whole ''other'' [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#JBWchronology|fandom belief]] of the time.
By the [[Emissary of the Fourth Planet|thirty-sixth episode]] of ''Beast Wars II'', it was revealed that Gaia's ancient inhabitants hadn't lived on the planet for several tens of thousands of years, which placed ''Beast Wars II'' that far into the future. Conversely, the [[Dark Designs|thirteenth episode]] of the American ''Beast Wars'' cartoon stated that the cast of that show originally hailed from only three centuries into the future.<ref>Though, a later [[Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|episode from the ''Beast Wars'' sequel ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' stated the future era was set "eons" later.</ref> However, the specific "three centuries" line from the English version had actually been omitted from the Japanese dub of the episode, so there was no contradiction there. That said, a few discrepancies did eventually begin to crop up in the immediate sequel series to ''Beast Wars II'', ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]''. Namely, ''Beast Wars Neo'' [[Big Convoy, Move Out|opened]] with explicit confirmation that the Maximals and Predacons were at war with each other, and had been for some time, while in the [[Beast Wars (Part 1)|first episode]] of the American cartoon, Optimus Primal stated that the Maximals and Predacons were instead at peace with each other, and had been for centuries (this line was kept faithfully in the Japanese dub). Likewise, the supercomputer [[Vector Sigma]] was shown to be a known public figure on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], residing in a [[Tower of Light|tower]] as the highest authority on the planet. By contrast, the [[The Reformatting|first episode]] of the American ''Beast Wars'' sequel series ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' showed that Vector Sigma had long ago evolved into a new form called the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], and presented it as a long lost legend hidden deep within the planet (though, to be fair, since ''Beast Wars Neo'' was made first, there was no way the Japanese production staff could have predicted the future developments of ''Beast Machines'').


For the ''many'' reasons given above, however, all of this was ''absolutely'' unnecessary. While it could be argued that these decisions don't explicitly contradict the ''letter'' of the cartoon (as in, ''Beast Wars'' never actually said that there ''wasn't'' a war between the Maximals and Predacons that happened after the Autobot/Decepticon war), they ''do'' completely go against the ''spirit'' of what the cartoon was trying to say about its in-universe history. ''Beast Wars'' never stated outright that there was no Maximal/Predacon war because it didn't ''need'' to. After all, it stated upfront that "There has been peace between the Maximals and Predacons for centuries," a mere ''three'' centuries in total.
===Optimus Primal and Megatron===
[[File:PrimalLioConvoyCatalog01.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|This didn't happen either.]]
Besides the timeframe discrepancies, there were other factors that ended up contradicting this catalog story's depiction of Optimus Primal and Megatron. The two are presented here as Maximal and Predacon authority figures in positions of power that allow them to appoint other individuals with official titles of leadership; Optimus in particular is treated as Lio Convoy's senior officer. This is in stark contrast to how, in the English version of ''Beast Wars'', Optimus was merely the captain of a science vessel, while Megatron was, indeed, originally perceived as the main leader of all Predacons in the cartoon's first season, but [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)#Megatron and the Predacons|changes]] made during the show's second season revealed that he was instead a wannabe tyrant with delusions of grandeur, and was considered a criminal on Cybertron even by his own people (but, like the Vector Sigma contradiction, there was no way the Japanese could have predicted what the second season would change after the first season). Nonetheless, the first-season depiction of Megatron as a true leader likely influenced the depictions of Predacon leaders [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] and [[Magmatron (BW)|Magmatron]] in ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'', respectively. Both were the captains of their own spacefaring vessels, were known by all as fearsome emperors, and answered to no higher authorities within the Predacon ranks. This stood in contrast to how, later in ''Beast Wars'', the [[Tripredacus Council]] was revealed to be the true head of government for the Predacons, with Megatron being labeled a dangerous renegade.


Furthermore, character profiles written by Yee for the retail release of the [[BotCon 2006]] comic story "[[Dawn of Future's Past]]" (which were condensed down into toy bios for two of that year's convention exclusives) declared that both Optimus Primal and Megatron were veterans of this Great War, which, again, is ''not'' what they were supposed to be in the cartoon. The first episode presented Optimus as young and untested, ''not'' an experienced combat soldier, while Megatron would later be revealed to have been viewed as a rogue criminal by his own people, not the respected army commander that his profile makes him out to be. This perception of Optimus Primal and Megatron as war veterans (along with "Dawn of Future's Past" [[retcon|retconning]] [[Tigatron|two]] [[Airazor (BW)|characters]] who were born Earth in ''Beast Wars'' into having already existed on Cybertron beforehand) would eventually lead to the [[BotCon 2016]] comic story "[[Dawn of the Predacus]]" (written by [[John-Paul Bove]] for IDW) taking things to an ''absurd'' extreme by depicting nearly ''every'' character from ''Beast Wars'' as having served in the Great War; specifically the Autobot/Decepticon Great War from ''three centuries ago'', when the cartoon was pretty unambiguous about the Maximals and Predacons being several degrees removed from the Autobots and Decepticons, their "''ancient ancestors''" (see that story's article for more).<ref>Though (to be a ''little'' fair), the idea of at least Megatron having been around since the Autobot/Decepticon war was first mentioned in [[2004]]'s ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', written by Simon Furman, but which is no less ridiculous.</ref>
The early Japanese depiction of Optimus Primal and Megatron as high-ranking Maximal and Predacon leaders seems to have stemmed from an early perception of the two that originally pegged them as being the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. When the original [[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Wars'' toyline]] started up in [[1996]], the earliest toy bios and [[Optimus Primal vs Megatron!|pack-in comic]] presented the Maximals and Predacons on present-day Earth and as just [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s having been upgraded by "Bio-Genetic Engineering". While this idea was dropped when the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon came along, it seems Takara hadn't quite gotten the memo over in Japan, as the earliest Japanese toy bios for Optimus and Megatron were based on their earliest American toy bios, with both giving them the lofty titles of "Supreme Commander" and "Emperor of Destruction" just like their namesakes. Optimus Primal was even given the same Japanese name as Optimus Prime, "Convoy", and his toy bio treated him as if he was the same Convoy of old. Special Japanese-only redeco toys even mentioned a "trailer truck" and a "Walther P-38" as having been Primal and Megatron's previous [[alternate mode|altmodes]]. Likewise, the Maximal and Predacon factions themselves were given the same Japanese names as those of the Autobot and Decepticon faction, being "Cybertron" and "Destron", respectively, in a seeming attempt to remove as much distinction between the two sets of factions as possible.


In short, there really isn't ''supposed'' to be a "Great War" that was fought between the Maximals and Predacons (and especially not involving Optimus Primal and Megatron) in the past lore of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, and the fact that there is such a conflict described in ''any'' official ''Transformers'' media is very very very very '''''wrooooooooong.'''''
This perception even appeared to bleed over into other Japanese ''Beast Wars'' media: The [[Free the Captured Matrix!|third chapter]] of the ''Beast Wars II'' manga featured a short bio for Optimus Primal that described him as "A fierce fighter who has fought against the Destron army for thousands of years."<ref>数千年にわたり、デストロン軍と戦いつづけで猛者。コンボイの称号を与える軍の評議会の一員でもある。エネルゴン探索の任務遂行中に消息をたったともいわれていたが...!?</ref> And when he later guest-starred in the [[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!|''Beast Wars II'' movie]], he was depicted as a "legendary Supreme Commander" that everyone knew and was in awe of, complete with his own [[Energon Matrix|Matrix]]. That same movie also had [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]] refer to a "Megatron" as "the greatest and most vicious legendary Transformer in history." But, it was never clarified if this grandiose description was in reference to Generation 1 or ''Beast Wars'' Megatron... likely because, at the time, the movie treated the two as if they were the same person, just as it seemed to do for Optimus (Although, when Lio Convoy and Optimus Primal first interacted with each other in the movie, Lio Convoy at one point asks "Please forgive me. But, who are you?" when looking directly at Optimus, casting some doubt over whether they actually knew each other beforehand like this catalog story claimed).
 
'''''BUT''''', within the Japanese dub of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon's first season itself, this perception was ''not'' the case. While the dub did insert references to Optimus being a Supreme Commander and Megatron being Emperor of Destruction, the dub was more or less accurate on the matter to the original English version. The two were ''never'' described as being the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes, and even when the Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] made his [[Possession|famous guest appearance]], the episode's Japanese dub made it even ''more'' explicit than the English version that Megatron had ''no'' familiarity with him at all.<ref>In the Japanese dub of "[[Possession]]", when hearing [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] describe Starscream's history, Megatron actually says "I've never heard of him."</ref> Consequently, this show of restraint by the dub turned out to be fortuitous in the long run, as the later two seasons of the series made it [[The Agenda (Part III)|abundantly clear]] that Optimus Primal and Megatron were completely separate individuals from Optimus Prime and the original Megatron.
 
===The Great King of Angolmois===
One last contradiction in this catalog story is the fact that it refers to a "weapon" called the "Great King of Angolmois" (アンゴルモアの大王 ''Angorumoa no Daiō'') that lies within ancient ruins of the planet. In both the cartoon and manga, it was instead a lava-like substance called "[[Angolmois Energy]]". Evidently, this was an early concept for the main plot device that was to be fought over by the forces of Lio Convoy and Galvatron, and even made it into the bio for [[Megastorm (BW)#Toys|Megastorm's toy]]; bios for later toys would instead reflect the cartoon and manga by referring to "Angolmois Energy".
 
Interestingly, the concept of a powerful weapon hidden deep within ancient ruins on Earth would later be recycled wholesale and fully utilized just two years later in the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|''Car Robots'' cartoon]], with [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] being said weapon.
 
===Conclusion===
In the mid-2000s, [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] began to make some serious efforts to organize the ever-growing [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon timeline]] that included all of the cartoons from the [[Beast Era]]. Due to all of the contradictions laid out above, Takara made the decision to ignore this catalog story entirely, throwing out every claim and character-depiction it made in order to clean up all of the issues between the American and Japanese cartoons. Opting to lean into  "several tens of thousands of years" statement given by ''Beast Wars II'', it was decided to relocate the two American cartoons away from the two Japanese ones, by acknowledging the "three centuries" statement given by the English version of ''Beast Wars'' that the Japanese dub had originally omitted. When fans in the west first learned of this timeline, the placement of ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' being set so long ''after'' the ''Beast Machines'' cartoon came as quite a startling shock, having long since taken both this catalog story and the ''Beast Machines'' Magmatron toy bio as gospel, since all the continuity issues described above were virtually unknown to anyone outside of Japan due to ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'' having not yet been fully translated into English at the time.
 
There was, however, one ''more'' discrepancy created by this attempt to fix all of the others: With the relocation of ''Beast Machines'' set before ''Beast Wars II'' and ''Neo'', this now placed the [[Great Transformation|technorganic reformatting]] Cybertron underwent at the end of ''Beast Machines'' as happening ''before'' its appearances in ''Beast Wars Neo'' as a metallic planet. This last hole would be filled in [[2019]] by a ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]]'' [[LG-EX Blue Big Convoy|pack-in comic]], which explained how and why Cybertron was turned back into a metallic world several eons after the end of ''Beast Machines''.
 
Thus, with the discarding of this catalog story from the [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]], its events have since been relegated to a little [[micro-continuity]] all unto itself. If anything, it still somewhat fits with the ''Beast Wars II'' and ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (manga)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' manga, which stuck to the catalog story's placing all the characters in the same timeframe. Though, the subsequent ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals (manga)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' manga still treats Optimus Primal and Megatron as separate individuals from Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron, meaning they'd just be high-ranking Maximals and Predacons all on their own without any inherent ties to their namesakes.
 
==Notes==
===Transformers references===
*The "Maximize" in the title of this story is actually "Henshin" (変身), a Japanese word for "transformation" that was used in the Japanese dub of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]] as the Japanese equivalent/replacement for both "Maximize" and "Terrorize" in the original English version. "Maximize", rather than "Transform", is used here to reflect that dubbing decision, and also because ''Beast Wars II'' would distinguish "Henshin" from "Transform" by specifically using the former for those with [[beast mode]]s, while the latter would be used by those with mechanical vehicle modes.
*Also included in this catalog is a brief recap of the final events of "[[Other Voices, Part 2]]", which had, at the time, recently aired in Japan on [[March 25]], [[1998]]. Said recap is given the title of '''~Convoy's Great Explosion~''' (〜コンボイ大爆発編〜 ''~Konboi Dai Bakuhatsu-hen~''). At the bottom of this recap is also an ad for the then-new ''Beast Wars II'' [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|animated series]] and [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (manga)|manga series]].
 
===Real-world references===
*The "seventh month of the Cosmic Year 1999" and "Great King of Angolmois" are both derived from ''{{w|Les Prophéties|The Prophecies}}'' of [[France|French]] seer {{w|Nostradamus}},<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20170430004120/http://www.maar.us/tenth_century_nostradamus_quatrains.html The text of Nostradamus's ''Prophecies'', Century X, in the original French with an English translation.] See Quatrain 72.</ref> whose prophecies were popular in [[Japan]] at the time. What these two bits actually ''mean'', however, is a ''lot'' to unpack, but most interpretations basically boil down to either a prophecy of doom brought about by either a tyrannical warlord like {{w|Genghis Khan}} or by terrorism, or a prophecy of prosperity brought about by either a rich philanthropist or a king like {{w|Francis I of France}}, occurring at some point in [[July]]–[[September]] of the year [[1999]].<ref>[https://books.google.com/books?id=PSiN-CVROJYC&q=Angolmois+mongolian&pg=PA67#v=snippet&q=Angolmois%20mongolian&f=false ''Saint Germain's Prophecy for the New Millennium: Includes Dramatic Prophecies from Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce and Mother Mary''] at Google Books</ref> In reality, it is still not entirely certain what, if anything, this prophecy referred to.
*[[Lio Convoy (BW)|Lio Convoy]] addresses [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] with the honorific of "{{w|Senpai and kōhai|senpai}}", which is used to refer to a person of senior experience, hierarchy, level, and/or age, who offers guidance, friendship, and general assistance to a newer, younger, and/or inexperienced person (known as the "{{w|Senpai and kōhai|kōhai}}") belonging to the same group, like a personal mentor. It is commonly used in the Japanese education system to refer to older students of higher grades by younger students of lower grades. In this case, it is used to indicate that Optimus Primal is Lio Convoy's personal mentor/superior (and is translated in the Quotes section above as "sir").
 
===Other trivia===
*Galvatron is depicted here mostly in shadow because, at the time, the color scheme for his toy had not yet been finalized. Indeed, his toy pictured elsewhere in the catalog is represented by an unpainted gray [[prototype|hardcopy]].


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In the very beginning, when the toyline debuted in 1996, the line presented itself as a complete reinvention of the ''Transformers'' brand, but one that was still set on [[Earth]] in the present day. Numerous references to "Bio-Genetic Engineering" being the source of the Maximals' and Predacons' organic [[beast mode]]s were given in the toys' packaging blurb, in a short [[Optimus Primal vs Megatron!|comic]] [[pack-in material|included]] with the very first [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Optimus Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars|Megatron]] toys, and in many of the toys' [[bio]]s. Combined with the bio for that first Optimus Primal toy closely paraphrasing the motto of the original [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#The Transformers|Optimus Prime toy]] from [[1984]] ("Freedom is the right of all sentient beings."), the original implication was that ''Beast Wars'' was simply another continuation of the [[The Transformers (franchise)|first]] [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|two]] iterations of the ''Transformers'' brand, with the Maximals and Predacons merely being genetically-enhanced Autobots and Decepticons, and Optimus Primal and Megatron being the very same individuals as their [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1]] [[Megatron (G1)|namesakes]].
Granted, the line wasn't ''explicit'' about this connection at the time, but there was no reason ''not'' to think so. Plus, the [[1997]] release of the Maximal [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|Grimlock]] toy featured a bio that made it abundantly clear that he was, indeed, the very same Autobot [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] of old, which further reinforced these implications. But after the cartoon took off and cemented itself as the dominant ''Beast Wars'' fiction, the toyline gradually shifted away from its original continuity to one more closely resembling that of the cartoon. A number of 1997 toy bios mentioned "[[energon crystal]]s" (a prominent part of the cartoon's first season), while [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]]'s bio referred to the ''Beast Wars'' setting not as "Earth" but instead "the mysterious planet" (as it was known in the cartoon's first season). By [[1998]], the original toy continuity was practically dropped entirely, with the packaging blurbs for the [[Transmetal]]s, [[Fuzor]]s, and [[1999]]'s [[Transmetal 2|Transmetals 2]] directly mentioning events specific to the cartoon's second and third seasons.
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*'''''[[The Transformers: Super Spychanger Lottery]]''''' (2003)
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*'''''[[Transformers: Dinobots]]''''' (2003)
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*'''''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Transformers: Universe]]''''' (2003–[[2008]])
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*'''''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]''''' ([[2004]]–[[2006]])
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*'''''[[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Transformers: Timelines]]''''' ([[2005]]–[[2016]]) / '''''[[Combiner Wars (franchise)|Transformers: Combiner Wars]]''''' ([[2015]]–[[2018]])
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*'''''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]''''' ([[2014]]–2016)
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The Stage of Battle is the 2nd War... Beast Wars, Maximize!!

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Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers catalog story

You have NO idea how much strife this one little catalog story has caused.
"The Stage of Battle is the 2nd War... Beast Wars, Maximize!!"
闘いの舞台は2 (セカンド)戦争... ...ビーストウォーズ、変身!!
(Tatakai no Butai wa Sekando Sensō...Bīsuto Wōzu, Henshin!!)
First published Spring 1998
Continuity Its own (see "Continuity" below)
Packaged with Spring 1998 Japanese Beast Wars toy releases

New leaders are appointed as a new war begins.

Synopsis

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While Optimus Primal and Megatron are off fighting their own life-or-death struggle, a new conflict, the "2nd War", is about to unfold on a planet within a star system located in a remote part of the galaxy. The participants of this conflict are members of the heroic Maximal Space Guard and the evil Predacon Armored Corps, respectively. Their battle is fought over a mysterious weapon hidden in ancient ruins of the planet, a weapon known as the "Great King of Angolmois". It is said that the victor of this conflict, be it Maximal or Predacon, will be decided in the seventh month of the Cosmic Year 1999.

The leaders of both sides of this new conflict are introduced by each of their immediate predecessors. Megatron introduces Galvatron as the New Emperor of Destruction, and recalls a time when, back on Cybertron, the two once disagreed over how to conquer the universe. This led to a fight between the two, in which Galvatron bested Megatron after catching him off guard. Though he now acknowledges Galvatron's ambition and his care for those under his command, Megatron also begrudgingly admits that Galvatron may hold enough dignity to succeed him as Emperor.

Meanwhile, Optimus Primal introduces the new Maximal leader, Lio Convoy, who was originally an ace in the Maximal Space Guard. Optimus notes that he is strong, valiant, and even kind, but also, admittedly, a bit too frank at times. Nevertheless, Optimus considers him to be an ideal leader, and remains hopeful that he can count on Lio Convoy to do all that he can to help maintain peace throughout the universe.

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(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)

Quotes

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Galvatron: "Your time is over, Megatron!"


Lio Convoy: "Please leave it to me! Optimus, sir!!"

Continuity

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This catalog story was originally written for the express purpose of explaining the premise of the then-upcoming Japanese-original series Beast Wars II, which had been created to fill the gap left by the delayed Japanese release of the second and third seasons of the American Beast Wars cartoon. Once the first season had finished airing, it would be succeeded by the Beast Wars II animated series, along with an accompanying manga series published by Comic BomBom. This little story was released about a month ahead the Beast Wars II cartoon's debut, and attempted to explain just how Beast Wars II was supposed to fit into the continuity of the American Beast Wars cartoon.

Timeframe

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This didn't happen.

As described above in the Synopsis, it is stated that Beast Wars II is set concurrent to the Beast Wars fought between Optimus Primal and Megatron on what was, at the time, not yet revealed to be prehistoric Earth[1] (in Japan, the planet was instead known as "Energoa" prior to its reveal as Earth). But, it was not initially made clear if this meant it took place during the same timeframe as the Beast Wars (since the time travel aspect had not yet been confirmed in the Japanese dub) or if took place in the far future timeframe that Optimus Primal and Megatron's crews had originally come from before traveling back in time to prehistoric Earth. Needless to say, the latter became the most widespread interpretation once it was made clear on both sides of the Pacific that the American Beast Wars cartoon was set on Earth in prehistoric times. Additional support for this interpretation came from the setting Beast Wars II itself, Gaia—a post-apocalyptic planet overrun by plant and wildlife—which bore a strong resemblance to Earth (with the manga making even more explicit hints to the planet's identity by featuring city ruins that heavily resembled Tokyo). The manga even featured guest appearances by Optimus Primal that depicted him as native to the timeframe of Beast Wars II. This notion even bled back over into some American media, with the Beast Wars toy bio for Transmetals 2 Cybershark alluding to the Beast Wars II Seacons as his contemporaries, while the Beast Machines bio for Dinobots Magmatron positioned the events of Beast Wars Neo as having occurred before Beast Machines.

By the thirty-sixth episode of Beast Wars II, it was revealed that Gaia's ancient inhabitants hadn't lived on the planet for several tens of thousands of years, which placed Beast Wars II that far into the future. Conversely, the thirteenth episode of the American Beast Wars cartoon stated that the cast of that show originally hailed from only three centuries into the future.[2] However, the specific "three centuries" line from the English version had actually been omitted from the Japanese dub of the episode, so there was no contradiction there. That said, a few discrepancies did eventually begin to crop up in the immediate sequel series to Beast Wars II, Beast Wars Neo. Namely, Beast Wars Neo opened with explicit confirmation that the Maximals and Predacons were at war with each other, and had been for some time, while in the first episode of the American cartoon, Optimus Primal stated that the Maximals and Predacons were instead at peace with each other, and had been for centuries (this line was kept faithfully in the Japanese dub). Likewise, the supercomputer Vector Sigma was shown to be a known public figure on Cybertron, residing in a tower as the highest authority on the planet. By contrast, the first episode of the American Beast Wars sequel series Beast Machines showed that Vector Sigma had long ago evolved into a new form called the Oracle, and presented it as a long lost legend hidden deep within the planet (though, to be fair, since Beast Wars Neo was made first, there was no way the Japanese production staff could have predicted the future developments of Beast Machines).

Optimus Primal and Megatron

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This didn't happen either.

Besides the timeframe discrepancies, there were other factors that ended up contradicting this catalog story's depiction of Optimus Primal and Megatron. The two are presented here as Maximal and Predacon authority figures in positions of power that allow them to appoint other individuals with official titles of leadership; Optimus in particular is treated as Lio Convoy's senior officer. This is in stark contrast to how, in the English version of Beast Wars, Optimus was merely the captain of a science vessel, while Megatron was, indeed, originally perceived as the main leader of all Predacons in the cartoon's first season, but changes made during the show's second season revealed that he was instead a wannabe tyrant with delusions of grandeur, and was considered a criminal on Cybertron even by his own people (but, like the Vector Sigma contradiction, there was no way the Japanese could have predicted what the second season would change after the first season). Nonetheless, the first-season depiction of Megatron as a true leader likely influenced the depictions of Predacon leaders Galvatron and Magmatron in Beast Wars II and Neo, respectively. Both were the captains of their own spacefaring vessels, were known by all as fearsome emperors, and answered to no higher authorities within the Predacon ranks. This stood in contrast to how, later in Beast Wars, the Tripredacus Council was revealed to be the true head of government for the Predacons, with Megatron being labeled a dangerous renegade.

The early Japanese depiction of Optimus Primal and Megatron as high-ranking Maximal and Predacon leaders seems to have stemmed from an early perception of the two that originally pegged them as being the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes, Optimus Prime and Megatron. When the original Beast Wars toyline started up in 1996, the earliest toy bios and pack-in comic presented the Maximals and Predacons on present-day Earth and as just Autobots and Decepticons having been upgraded by "Bio-Genetic Engineering". While this idea was dropped when the Beast Wars cartoon came along, it seems Takara hadn't quite gotten the memo over in Japan, as the earliest Japanese toy bios for Optimus and Megatron were based on their earliest American toy bios, with both giving them the lofty titles of "Supreme Commander" and "Emperor of Destruction" just like their namesakes. Optimus Primal was even given the same Japanese name as Optimus Prime, "Convoy", and his toy bio treated him as if he was the same Convoy of old. Special Japanese-only redeco toys even mentioned a "trailer truck" and a "Walther P-38" as having been Primal and Megatron's previous altmodes. Likewise, the Maximal and Predacon factions themselves were given the same Japanese names as those of the Autobot and Decepticon faction, being "Cybertron" and "Destron", respectively, in a seeming attempt to remove as much distinction between the two sets of factions as possible.

This perception even appeared to bleed over into other Japanese Beast Wars media: The third chapter of the Beast Wars II manga featured a short bio for Optimus Primal that described him as "A fierce fighter who has fought against the Destron army for thousands of years."[3] And when he later guest-starred in the Beast Wars II movie, he was depicted as a "legendary Supreme Commander" that everyone knew and was in awe of, complete with his own Matrix. That same movie also had Galvatron refer to a "Megatron" as "the greatest and most vicious legendary Transformer in history." But, it was never clarified if this grandiose description was in reference to Generation 1 or Beast Wars Megatron... likely because, at the time, the movie treated the two as if they were the same person, just as it seemed to do for Optimus (Although, when Lio Convoy and Optimus Primal first interacted with each other in the movie, Lio Convoy at one point asks "Please forgive me. But, who are you?" when looking directly at Optimus, casting some doubt over whether they actually knew each other beforehand like this catalog story claimed).

BUT, within the Japanese dub of the Beast Wars cartoon's first season itself, this perception was not the case. While the dub did insert references to Optimus being a Supreme Commander and Megatron being Emperor of Destruction, the dub was more or less accurate on the matter to the original English version. The two were never described as being the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes, and even when the Decepticon Starscream made his famous guest appearance, the episode's Japanese dub made it even more explicit than the English version that Megatron had no familiarity with him at all.[4] Consequently, this show of restraint by the dub turned out to be fortuitous in the long run, as the later two seasons of the series made it abundantly clear that Optimus Primal and Megatron were completely separate individuals from Optimus Prime and the original Megatron.

The Great King of Angolmois

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One last contradiction in this catalog story is the fact that it refers to a "weapon" called the "Great King of Angolmois" (アンゴルモアの大王 Angorumoa no Daiō) that lies within ancient ruins of the planet. In both the cartoon and manga, it was instead a lava-like substance called "Angolmois Energy". Evidently, this was an early concept for the main plot device that was to be fought over by the forces of Lio Convoy and Galvatron, and even made it into the bio for Megastorm's toy; bios for later toys would instead reflect the cartoon and manga by referring to "Angolmois Energy".

Interestingly, the concept of a powerful weapon hidden deep within ancient ruins on Earth would later be recycled wholesale and fully utilized just two years later in the Car Robots cartoon, with Brave Maximus being said weapon.

Conclusion

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In the mid-2000s, Takara began to make some serious efforts to organize the ever-growing Japanese Generation 1 cartoon timeline that included all of the cartoons from the Beast Era. Due to all of the contradictions laid out above, Takara made the decision to ignore this catalog story entirely, throwing out every claim and character-depiction it made in order to clean up all of the issues between the American and Japanese cartoons. Opting to lean into "several tens of thousands of years" statement given by Beast Wars II, it was decided to relocate the two American cartoons away from the two Japanese ones, by acknowledging the "three centuries" statement given by the English version of Beast Wars that the Japanese dub had originally omitted. When fans in the west first learned of this timeline, the placement of Beast Wars II and Neo being set so long after the Beast Machines cartoon came as quite a startling shock, having long since taken both this catalog story and the Beast Machines Magmatron toy bio as gospel, since all the continuity issues described above were virtually unknown to anyone outside of Japan due to Beast Wars II and Neo having not yet been fully translated into English at the time.

There was, however, one more discrepancy created by this attempt to fix all of the others: With the relocation of Beast Machines set before Beast Wars II and Neo, this now placed the technorganic reformatting Cybertron underwent at the end of Beast Machines as happening before its appearances in Beast Wars Neo as a metallic planet. This last hole would be filled in 2019 by a Transformers Legends pack-in comic, which explained how and why Cybertron was turned back into a metallic world several eons after the end of Beast Machines.

Thus, with the discarding of this catalog story from the Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity, its events have since been relegated to a little micro-continuity all unto itself. If anything, it still somewhat fits with the Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo manga, which stuck to the catalog story's placing all the characters in the same timeframe. Though, the subsequent Beast Wars Metals manga still treats Optimus Primal and Megatron as separate individuals from Optimus Prime and G1 Megatron, meaning they'd just be high-ranking Maximals and Predacons all on their own without any inherent ties to their namesakes.

Notes

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Transformers references

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  • The "Maximize" in the title of this story is actually "Henshin" (変身), a Japanese word for "transformation" that was used in the Japanese dub of the Beast Wars cartoon as the Japanese equivalent/replacement for both "Maximize" and "Terrorize" in the original English version. "Maximize", rather than "Transform", is used here to reflect that dubbing decision, and also because Beast Wars II would distinguish "Henshin" from "Transform" by specifically using the former for those with beast modes, while the latter would be used by those with mechanical vehicle modes.
  • Also included in this catalog is a brief recap of the final events of "Other Voices, Part 2", which had, at the time, recently aired in Japan on March 25, 1998. Said recap is given the title of ~Convoy's Great Explosion~ (〜コンボイ大爆発編〜 ~Konboi Dai Bakuhatsu-hen~). At the bottom of this recap is also an ad for the then-new Beast Wars II animated series and manga series.

Real-world references

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  • The "seventh month of the Cosmic Year 1999" and "Great King of Angolmois" are both derived from The Prophecies of French seer Nostradamus,[5] whose prophecies were popular in Japan at the time. What these two bits actually mean, however, is a lot to unpack, but most interpretations basically boil down to either a prophecy of doom brought about by either a tyrannical warlord like Genghis Khan or by terrorism, or a prophecy of prosperity brought about by either a rich philanthropist or a king like Francis I of France, occurring at some point in JulySeptember of the year 1999.[6] In reality, it is still not entirely certain what, if anything, this prophecy referred to.
  • Lio Convoy addresses Optimus Primal with the honorific of "senpai", which is used to refer to a person of senior experience, hierarchy, level, and/or age, who offers guidance, friendship, and general assistance to a newer, younger, and/or inexperienced person (known as the "kōhai") belonging to the same group, like a personal mentor. It is commonly used in the Japanese education system to refer to older students of higher grades by younger students of lower grades. In this case, it is used to indicate that Optimus Primal is Lio Convoy's personal mentor/superior (and is translated in the Quotes section above as "sir").

Other trivia

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  • Galvatron is depicted here mostly in shadow because, at the time, the color scheme for his toy had not yet been finalized. Indeed, his toy pictured elsewhere in the catalog is represented by an unpainted gray hardcopy.

References

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  1. At least, in Japan. By March 1998, the English version of the American cartoon had already revealed the planet to be Earth.
  2. Though, a later [[Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|episode from the Beast Wars sequel Beast Machines stated the future era was set "eons" later.
  3. 数千年にわたり、デストロン軍と戦いつづけで猛者。コンボイの称号を与える軍の評議会の一員でもある。エネルゴン探索の任務遂行中に消息をたったともいわれていたが...!?
  4. In the Japanese dub of "Possession", when hearing Blackarachnia describe Starscream's history, Megatron actually says "I've never heard of him."
  5. The text of Nostradamus's Prophecies, Century X, in the original French with an English translation. See Quatrain 72.
  6. Saint Germain's Prophecy for the New Millennium: Includes Dramatic Prophecies from Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce and Mother Mary at Google Books

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