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'''It's the end of the road for an ex-Decepticon...'''
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==Quotes==
"As a warrior, I thought the fight was '''everything'''. But there's more to it than that! It's not just fighting and dying, it's doing so to '''help others''' who can't fight!"
:—'''Carnivac''' has an epiphany while ''spin-kicking Bludgeon in the face''


==Notes==
==Notes==
===Artwork and technical errors===
===Continuity errors===
===Continuity notes===
*The Survivors storyline would eventually tie into the alternate continuity of the [[Earthforce]] storyline. It's not clear where one draws the line between the main storyline and this portion of the Earthforce branch.
*The Survivors storyline would eventually tie into the alternate continuity of the [[Earthforce]] storyline. It's not clear where one draws the line between the main storyline and this portion of the Earthforce branch.
*The Mexican town is now identified as [[Los Gravos]].
*The Mexican town is now identified as [[Los Gravos]].
*Octopunch's fate in this issue is unclear but he appears next in "[[Cry Wolf!]]". If the Earthforce continuity branch takes place between this story and then, he appears in several US strips starting with "[[Yesterday's Heroes!]]" but the exact placing of this story to that one is unclear.
*Octopunch's fate in this issue is unclear but he appears next in "[[Cry Wolf!]]". If the Earthforce continuity branch takes place between this story and then, he appears in several US strips starting with "[[Yesterday's Heroes!]]" but the exact placing of this story to that one is unclear.
*This issue features ''[[Transformers AtoZ]]'' profiles for [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]. This makes Ravage the first character to have had three profiles in the UK comics, after a ''[[Fact File]]'' in issue [[The Last Stand|#8]] and a ''Fact File Interface'' in issue [[Showdown!|#73]].


===Covers (4)===
===Real-life references===
 
===Other trivia===
 
===Back-up material===
*'''Additional ''Transformers'' story:''' "[[The Interplanetary Wrestling Championship!]]"
*'''Other strips:''' ''[[Action Force (comic)|Action Force]]'' - "Beginnings... and Endings" and ''[[Combat Colin]]''
*'''[[Transformers AtoZ|AtoZ]]:''' [[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ratchet]] and [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]]
**This makes Ravage the first character to have had three profiles in the UK comics, after a ''[[Fact File]]'' in issue [[The Last Stand|#8]] and a ''Fact File Interface'' in issue [[Showdown!|#73]].
 
===Foreign Localization===
'''Swedish'''
:* ''Title:'' "'''En barbarisk plats'''" ("A Barbaric Place")
 
===Covers (1)===
*'''Issue #239 cover:''' the Mayhems on the rampage, by [[Geoff Senior]].
<gallery>
<gallery>
File:MarvelUK-239.jpg|'''Issue #239''' - Rabble rabble rabble!
File:MarvelUK-239.jpg|'''Issue #239''' - Rabble rabble rabble!
File:Transformers annual 1992.jpg|'''Transformers Annual 1992'''
File:Tfcolcom27.jpg|'''''Winter Special'' 1994'''
File:Titan B&W Compilation-Way of the Warrior.jpg|'''''Way of the Warrior'''''
</gallery>
</gallery>
*'''Issue #239 cover:''' The Mayhems on the rampage, by [[Geoff Senior]].
*'''Transformers Annual 1992 cover:''' The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] on the rampage, by [[Jeff Anderson]].
*'''''Winter Special'' 1994 cover:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] mourns the dying [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], by [[Staz|Stewart Johnson]].
*'''''Way of the Warrior'' cover:''' Carnivac and Springer stand victorious over a [[Limbo]] nightmare creature, by [[Simon Coleby]].


===Reprints===
===Reprints===
*[[1992]] — ''[[Transformers Annual 1992]]''
*'''''[[Transformers Annual 1992]]'':''' the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] on the rampage, by [[Jeff Anderson]].
*[[1994]] — ''[[Transformers Collected Comics|Transformers Winter Special]]''
*'''''[[Transformers Collected Comics|Transformers Winter Special 1994]]'':''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] mourns the dying [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], by [[Staz|Stewart Johnson]].
*[[2005]] — ''[[Transformers: Way of the Warrior]]''
*'''''[[Transformers: Way of the Warrior]]'':''' Carnivac and Springer stand victorious over a [[Limbo]] nightmare creature, by [[Simon Coleby]].
*'''''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection]], Volume 17: Matrix Quest:''''' Nightbeat and Prime's corpse by [[Makoto Ono]] and [[Geoff Senior]].
<gallery>
File:Transformers annual 1992.jpg|'''Transformers Annual 1992''' (Marvel Comics UK, 1992)
File:Tfcolcom27.jpg|'''''Winter Special'' 1994''' (Marvel Comics UK, 1994)
File:Titan B&W Compilation-Way of the Warrior.jpg|'''''Way of the Warrior''''' (Titan Books, 2005)
File:DefinitiveG1Collection v17.jpg|'''''The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 17: Matrix Quest''''' (Hachette Partworks, Ltd., 2018)
</gallery>




Latest revision as of 12:41, 17 September 2024

« The Transformers (UK) #239 »
"A Savage Place!"
Publisher Marvel Comics
First published 7th October 1989
Cover date 15th October 1989
Writer Simon Furman
Art Geoff Senior
Letterer Helen Stone
Cover Geoff Senior
Continuity Marvel Comics continuity (Marvel UK)
Chronology 1989

It's the end of the road for an ex-Decepticon...

Synopsis

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In Los Gravos, Mexico, Octopunch prepares to execute Carnivac, recounting his crime of siding with the Autobots when a human called Jose crashes a truck into him. As the Decepticon collapses in the flames, both Carnivac and other humans ask Jose why he risked his life when it isn't his fight. But Jose responds that Carnivac was ready to sacrifice himself for his family and Jose can only do the same. Suddenly, the remaining members of the Mayhem Attack Squad arrive, and Carnivac decides to stop running and leaving them to others, but instead to fight.

Elsewhere, Springer and Broadside search fruitlessly for Carnivac. Springer is furious at himself for refusing to help when Catilla asked for it, and worries they won't find Carnivac before it's too late, but Broadside suggests Inferno and Skids may have had more success.

Death of a Decepticon.

Carnivac is holding his own well, having tricked Snarler into headbutting a wall and then blasting down Stranglehold. He is in the process of subduing Bludgeon when Spinister transforms to his helicopter mode and threatens the humans. Carnivac leaps in front of them, taking several blasts.

Spinister lands and put his gun to Carnivac's head, preparing to execute him. But Catilla has arrived, and pushes Spinister aside. Bludgeon has recovered and throws his sword at Catilla, impaling and killing him. As Carnivac lashes out at Bludgeon, the Autobot Survivors arrive, forcing the Mayhems to retreat.

Carnivac kneels by Catilla's corpse and swears that he will avenge his former comrade, and that the Mayhems are as good as dead.

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(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)

Autobots Decepticons Humans

Quotes

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"As a warrior, I thought the fight was everything. But there's more to it than that! It's not just fighting and dying, it's doing so to help others who can't fight!"

—Carnivac has an epiphany while spin-kicking Bludgeon in the face

Notes

[edit]

Artwork and technical errors

[edit]

Continuity errors

[edit]

Continuity notes

[edit]
  • The Survivors storyline would eventually tie into the alternate continuity of the Earthforce storyline. It's not clear where one draws the line between the main storyline and this portion of the Earthforce branch.
  • The Mexican town is now identified as Los Gravos.
  • Octopunch's fate in this issue is unclear but he appears next in "Cry Wolf!". If the Earthforce continuity branch takes place between this story and then, he appears in several US strips starting with "Yesterday's Heroes!" but the exact placing of this story to that one is unclear.

Real-life references

[edit]

Other trivia

[edit]

Back-up material

[edit]

Foreign Localization

[edit]

Swedish

  • Title: "En barbarisk plats" ("A Barbaric Place")

Covers (1)

[edit]
  • Issue #239 cover: the Mayhems on the rampage, by Geoff Senior.
  • Issue #239 - Rabble rabble rabble!
    Issue #239 - Rabble rabble rabble!

Reprints

[edit]
  • Transformers Annual 1992 (Marvel Comics UK, 1992)
    Transformers Annual 1992 (Marvel Comics UK, 1992)
  • Winter Special 1994 (Marvel Comics UK, 1994)
    Winter Special 1994 (Marvel Comics UK, 1994)
  • Way of the Warrior (Titan Books, 2005)
    Way of the Warrior (Titan Books, 2005)
  • The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 17: Matrix Quest (Hachette Partworks, Ltd., 2018)
    The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 17: Matrix Quest (Hachette Partworks, Ltd., 2018)
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