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{{bigquote|"A true leader doesn't '''seize''' power. He's '''given''' it by his followers."|[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]|"[[King of the Hill!]]"}} | {{bigquote|"A true leader doesn't '''seize''' power. He's '''given''' it by his followers."|[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]|"[[King of the Hill!]]"}} | ||
[[ | [[File:MarvelUK-111.jpg|200px|thumb|New Dinobots, New Danger!]] | ||
'''Democracy''' is a form of government in which all participants have equal vote on decisions that affect the group. Democracy does not appear to have a prominent place in Transformers society, as the vast majority of their leaders and policy appear to be decided on either by the departing previous leader, the interpreted will of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], or a [[High Council]]. (It is unknown whether any High Council is elected into office, and most known members seem to serve for millions of years, until assassination.) The specter of perpetual war looms large, lending itself to a state of global martial law on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. | '''Democracy''' is a form of government in which all participants have equal vote on decisions that affect the group. Democracy does not appear to have a prominent place in Transformers society, as the vast majority of their leaders and policy appear to be decided on either by the departing previous leader, the interpreted will of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], or a [[High Council]]. (It is unknown whether any High Council is elected into office, and most known members seem to serve for millions of years, until assassination.) The specter of perpetual war looms large, lending itself to a state of global martial law on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. | ||
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==Examples of democracy in Transformers fiction== | ==Examples of democracy in Transformers fiction== | ||
===Marvel Comics continuity=== | ===Marvel Comics continuity=== | ||
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] explains to [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] the terms of his leadership of the [[Autobot | *[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] explains to [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] the terms of his leadership of the [[Autobot]]s. He states that if the Autobots wish him to step down, he will. It is also their right to leave individually. Though Optimus Prime was appointed to Autobot Commander by [[Xaaron|Emirate Xaaron]], {{storylink|And There Shall Come...a Leader!}} he suggests that it is the will of the people that keeps him there, and he would step down if asked. It's not discussed here if this is a real, enforceable policy or just Prime being a nice guy, {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}} but later on we discover that a badly-performing Autobot leader can be stripped of command under the [[Crisis Act]]. As [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], not that high-ranking a figure, was the one threatening to invoke it, it would seem the Act is open to anyone. {{storylink|The Pri¢e of Life!}} | ||
[[ | [[File:Democracykingofthehill.jpg|thumb|300px|So the council of peers is made up of three dudes born on Earth, two guys fresh off the [[Space Bridge]] from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], and... Ratchet. Well, okay, it's not like anyone actually cares about [[Gears (G1)|Gears]]' opinions.]] | ||
*When Optimus Prime dies in battle, the Autobots must select a new leader. The seven Autobots who held a "position of authority" (Perceptor, Jetfire, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]) hold a private conference to nominate a replacement. This practice is not strictly democratic, as not every Autobot present was eligible to participate. If the "positions of authority" were electable positions themselves, the conference could be categorized as republican. [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] was also eligible to participate, as leader of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], but he showed up late only to tell everyone they were stupid and weak, that Optimus Prime was a loser, and to nominate himself. The conference eventually decided on Grimlock, of course. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}} | *When Optimus Prime dies in battle, the Autobots must select a new leader. The seven Autobots who held a "position of authority" (Perceptor, Jetfire, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]) hold a private conference to nominate a replacement. This practice is not strictly democratic, as not every Autobot present was eligible to participate. If the "positions of authority" were electable positions themselves, the conference could be categorized as republican. [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] was also eligible to participate, as leader of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], but he showed up late only to tell everyone they were stupid and weak, that Optimus Prime was a loser, and to nominate himself. The conference eventually decided on Grimlock, of course. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}} | ||
[[ | [[File:Blasterbeourleaderplease.jpg|300px|thumb|Less like election, more like mob rule.]] | ||
*During the disastrous rule of Grimlock, the entirety of the Earthbound Autobots (save the Dinobots, of course), rallied together to show their support for Blaster as his replacement. This enthusiasm for regime change disappeared once Blaster turned himself in to Grimlock to guarantee the safe release of the [[Spacehikers|Spacehiker children]]. It is perhaps telling that the Autobots will do nothing to better themselves in the absence of a strong leader. {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} They didn't use the Crisis Act <strike>because Furman made it up later</strike> for unknown reasons, possibly due to a lack of a rallying figure or possibly for fear of Grimlock's loyal Dinobots. | *During the disastrous rule of Grimlock, the entirety of the Earthbound Autobots (save the Dinobots, of course), rallied together to show their support for Blaster as his replacement. This enthusiasm for regime change disappeared once Blaster turned himself in to Grimlock to guarantee the safe release of the [[Spacehikers|Spacehiker children]]. It is perhaps telling that the Autobots will do nothing to better themselves in the absence of a strong leader. {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} They didn't use the Crisis Act <strike>because Furman made it up later</strike> for unknown reasons, possibly due to a lack of a rallying figure or possibly for fear of Grimlock's loyal Dinobots. | ||
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=== | ===''The Transformers'' cartoon=== | ||
{{bigquote|"I say we '''vote!'''"|[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]|"[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3]]"}} | {{bigquote|"I say we '''vote!'''"|[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]|"[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3]]"}} | ||
[[ | [[File:G1 Movie Decepticon brawl.JPG|200px|thumb|If U.S. elections were like this, it would be a lot more interesting!]] | ||
*After suffering heavy losses in the battle for [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], the [[Decepticon]]s take a vote on whether or not to jettison their damaged comrades in order to make it back to Cybertron. The results of the vote are split entirely along the boundaries of who would be personally affected by this decision, but the damaged are outnumbered and tossed into space. (Unsurprisingly, the Decepticons do not appear to have any mechanism to protect the rights of the minority). After this, the Decepticons hold a debate as to who should succeed the ejected [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] as leader of the Decepticons. This is handled by a more traditional Decepticon process: beat the slag out of each other. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} | *After suffering heavy losses in the battle for [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], the [[Decepticon]]s take a vote on whether or not to jettison their damaged comrades in order to make it back to Cybertron. The results of the vote are split entirely along the boundaries of who would be personally affected by this decision, but the damaged are outnumbered and tossed into space. (Unsurprisingly, the Decepticons do not appear to have any mechanism to protect the rights of the minority). After this, the Decepticons hold a debate as to who should succeed the ejected [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] as leader of the Decepticons. This is handled by a more traditional Decepticon process: beat the slag out of each other. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} | ||
*Later, the Decepticons take a vote as to whether or not they should ally themselves with the [[Quintesson | *Later, the Decepticons take a vote as to whether or not they should ally themselves with the [[Quintesson]]s. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness}} | ||
*When the Decepticons invaded [[Paradron]], one native claimed that, since their society was a democracy, they didn't have to obey the Decepticons' commands. As it turns out, [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] didn't particularly care how Paradron's government worked. {{storylink|Fight or Flee}} | *When the Decepticons invaded [[Paradron]], one native claimed that, since their society was a democracy, they didn't have to obey the Decepticons' commands. As it turns out, [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] didn't particularly care how Paradron's government worked. {{storylink|Fight or Flee}} | ||
===''Beast Wars'' cartoon=== | ===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity=== | ||
{{bigquote|"Oh, great system, your "democracy"! No mechanism to break a tie!"|[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]|"[[Chain of Command]]"}} | {{bigquote|"Oh, great system, your "democracy"! No mechanism to break a tie!"|[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]|"[[Chain of Command]]"}} | ||
[[ | [[File:Coc getshorty.jpg|200px|thumb|Every political discussion during an election, ''ever''.]] | ||
* When [[Optimus Primal]] goes missing, a secret ballot is cast among the four remaining [[Maximal | * When [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] goes missing, a secret ballot is cast among the four remaining [[Maximal]]s. According to [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], voting in this manner is a Maximal tradition. The vote results in a tie; whether Maximals in general can't break a tie or if this is just this one incident (there were only four of them on the whole planet) is unknown. [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] laughs at the process' revealed faults and calls it "your democracy", indicating that the Predacons have no democratic system (what a shock!). Optimus Primal was able to contact them soon after, and he declared [[Rattrap]] the leader in his absence. {{storylink|Chain of Command}} | ||
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{{bigquote|I think I'm going to leave it up to you to decide your own stations. And, uh, if any of you decide to join us and defeat the Decepticons once and for all, that's up to you. Oh, and if any of you decide to stay back here on Earth, that's okay, too."|[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]]|"[[Departure]]"}} | {{bigquote|I think I'm going to leave it up to you to decide your own stations. And, uh, if any of you decide to join us and defeat the Decepticons once and for all, that's up to you. Oh, and if any of you decide to stay back here on Earth, that's okay, too."|[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]]|"[[Departure]]"}} | ||
[[ | [[File:Remorse democracy.jpg|200px|thumb|Slow reflexes? You too can be Autobot leader.]] | ||
* After [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] dies in battle, [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] is given Autobot leadership because the other Autobots think that is what Optimus Prime would have wanted. The deal is sealed when he doesn't flinch when [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] throws a punch at him. {{storylink|Remorse}} | * After [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] dies in battle, [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] is given Autobot leadership because the other Autobots think that is what Optimus Prime would have wanted. The deal is sealed when he doesn't flinch when [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] throws a punch at him. {{storylink|Remorse}} | ||
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* No, seriously. | * No, seriously. | ||
===IDW | ===IDW Generation 1 continuity=== | ||
* When Optimus had surrendered himself, the Earth-stranded Autobots decided to vote on their new commanding officer rather than following the chain of command. This had not been a normal policy before, and appears to be something they had recently adopted. In the end, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] won. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 1: "New Arrivals, Old Encounters"|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} | * When Optimus had surrendered himself, the Earth-stranded Autobots decided to vote on their new commanding officer rather than following the chain of command. This had not been a normal policy before, and appears to be something they had recently adopted. In the end, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] won. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 1: "New Arrivals, Old Encounters"|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} | ||
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==Humans== | ==Humans== | ||
[[ | [[File:Fakkadi.jpg|200px|thumb|"Thank you, citizens, for giving me 95% of the vote!"]] | ||
Humans are also known for having systems of democracy: | Humans are also known for having systems of democracy: | ||
Revision as of 14:34, 20 April 2013
| “ | "A true leader doesn't seize power. He's given it by his followers." | ” |

Democracy is a form of government in which all participants have equal vote on decisions that affect the group. Democracy does not appear to have a prominent place in Transformers society, as the vast majority of their leaders and policy appear to be decided on either by the departing previous leader, the interpreted will of the Matrix, or a High Council. (It is unknown whether any High Council is elected into office, and most known members seem to serve for millions of years, until assassination.) The specter of perpetual war looms large, lending itself to a state of global martial law on Cybertron.
Examples of democracy in Transformers fiction
Marvel Comics continuity
- Optimus Prime explains to Jetfire the terms of his leadership of the Autobots. He states that if the Autobots wish him to step down, he will. It is also their right to leave individually. Though Optimus Prime was appointed to Autobot Commander by Emirate Xaaron, And There Shall Come...a Leader! he suggests that it is the will of the people that keeps him there, and he would step down if asked. It's not discussed here if this is a real, enforceable policy or just Prime being a nice guy, Rock and Roll-Out! but later on we discover that a badly-performing Autobot leader can be stripped of command under the Crisis Act. As Kup, not that high-ranking a figure, was the one threatening to invoke it, it would seem the Act is open to anyone. The Pri¢e of Life!

- When Optimus Prime dies in battle, the Autobots must select a new leader. The seven Autobots who held a "position of authority" (Perceptor, Jetfire, Blaster, Hot Spot, Silverbolt, Omega Supreme, and Ratchet) hold a private conference to nominate a replacement. This practice is not strictly democratic, as not every Autobot present was eligible to participate. If the "positions of authority" were electable positions themselves, the conference could be categorized as republican. Grimlock was also eligible to participate, as leader of the Dinobots, but he showed up late only to tell everyone they were stupid and weak, that Optimus Prime was a loser, and to nominate himself. The conference eventually decided on Grimlock, of course. King of the Hill!

- During the disastrous rule of Grimlock, the entirety of the Earthbound Autobots (save the Dinobots, of course), rallied together to show their support for Blaster as his replacement. This enthusiasm for regime change disappeared once Blaster turned himself in to Grimlock to guarantee the safe release of the Spacehiker children. It is perhaps telling that the Autobots will do nothing to better themselves in the absence of a strong leader. Spacehikers! They didn't use the Crisis Act
because Furman made it up laterfor unknown reasons, possibly due to a lack of a rallying figure or possibly for fear of Grimlock's loyal Dinobots.
The Transformers cartoon
| “ | "I say we vote!" | ” |
- After suffering heavy losses in the battle for Autobot City, the Decepticons take a vote on whether or not to jettison their damaged comrades in order to make it back to Cybertron. The results of the vote are split entirely along the boundaries of who would be personally affected by this decision, but the damaged are outnumbered and tossed into space. (Unsurprisingly, the Decepticons do not appear to have any mechanism to protect the rights of the minority). After this, the Decepticons hold a debate as to who should succeed the ejected Megatron as leader of the Decepticons. This is handled by a more traditional Decepticon process: beat the slag out of each other. The Transformers: The Movie
- Later, the Decepticons take a vote as to whether or not they should ally themselves with the Quintessons. Five Faces of Darkness
- When the Decepticons invaded Paradron, one native claimed that, since their society was a democracy, they didn't have to obey the Decepticons' commands. As it turns out, Cyclonus and Scourge didn't particularly care how Paradron's government worked. Fight or Flee
Beast Wars cartoon continuity
| “ | "Oh, great system, your "democracy"! No mechanism to break a tie!" | ” |

- When Optimus Primal goes missing, a secret ballot is cast among the four remaining Maximals. According to Rhinox, voting in this manner is a Maximal tradition. The vote results in a tie; whether Maximals in general can't break a tie or if this is just this one incident (there were only four of them on the whole planet) is unknown. Dinobot laughs at the process' revealed faults and calls it "your democracy", indicating that the Predacons have no democratic system (what a shock!). Optimus Primal was able to contact them soon after, and he declared Rattrap the leader in his absence. Chain of Command
Armada cartoon
| “ | I think I'm going to leave it up to you to decide your own stations. And, uh, if any of you decide to join us and defeat the Decepticons once and for all, that's up to you. Oh, and if any of you decide to stay back here on Earth, that's okay, too." | ” |

- After Optimus Prime dies in battle, Hot Shot is given Autobot leadership because the other Autobots think that is what Optimus Prime would have wanted. The deal is sealed when he doesn't flinch when Scavenger throws a punch at him. Remorse
- No, seriously.
IDW Generation 1 continuity
- When Optimus had surrendered himself, the Earth-stranded Autobots decided to vote on their new commanding officer rather than following the chain of command. This had not been a normal policy before, and appears to be something they had recently adopted. In the end, Bumblebee won. New Arrivals, Old Encounters
- Once the war had ended, Metalhawk and Starscream, both unelected faction leaders (civilian and Decepticon), began pushing for a free election to determine a new Cybertronian government. Dinobot Hunt
Transformers: Prime
- The Decepticon troops on the Nemesis held a vote on whether or not Megatron should get specialist treatment, overruling the wishes of the acting-commander. Deus ex Machina
Humans

Humans are also known for having systems of democracy:
- The United States of America elect a President.
- Japan has a Prime Minister.
- The United Kingdom also has a Prime Minister, one of whom has spoken of a desire to consult with Optimus Prime. This has made him a Decepticon target. #24's Star Screams
- The Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya makes claim to being democratic, but really isn't.

