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While it is nothing new, photodegradation has become much more common and rapid in products released in the ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' ''[[Earthrise]]'' toyline and thereafter. Several figures' unpaintable plastic has become increasingly susceptible to decay and discoloration even [[MISB|while still inside the packaging]] or mere days after being opened. These figures are also known to "yellow" even when they aren't exposed to direct sunlight - even when inside windowless boxes! - and have been observed to have an accelerated reaction in humid climates.
While it is nothing new, photodegradation has become much more common and rapid in products released in the ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise]]'' toyline and thereafter. Several figures' unpaintable plastic has become increasingly susceptible to decay and discoloration even [[Mint in sealed box|while still inside the packaging]] or mere days after being opened. These figures are also known to "yellow" even when they aren't exposed to direct sunlight—even when inside windowless boxes!—and have been observed to have an accelerated reaction in humid climates.


The precise cause is still unclear. A common theory among the [[fandom]] is that a fire retardant within the nylon chemical buildup is the cause of this and reacts to heat and/or humidity, causing the plastic to yellow. There was even one case in {{SITENAME SHORT}}'s own community [https://discord.gg/N99Bygq Discord server] where the fire retardant chemical seeped out of a seam in an individual's ''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#2020Netflix|Soundwave]]'s knee! Gross. Other proposed explanations blame the {{w|COVID-19}} pandemic: rapid changes in factory staff and cleaning methods, reduced feasibility of Hasbro site-checks, longer time spent on slowed-down Pacific cargo ships, or some mix of the above.
The precise cause is still unclear. A common theory among the [[fandom]] is that a fire retardant within the nylon chemical buildup is the cause of this and reacts to heat and/or humidity, causing the plastic to yellow. There was even one case in {{SITENAME SHORT}}'s own community [https://discord.gg/N99Bygq Discord server] where the fire retardant chemical seeped out of a seam in an individual's ''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#2020Netflix|Soundwave]]'s knee! Gross. Other proposed explanations blame the {{w|COVID-19}} pandemic: rapid changes in factory staff and cleaning methods, reduced feasibility of Hasbro site-checks, longer time spent on slowed-down Pacific cargo ships, or some mix of the above.
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Well documented victims include:
Well documented victims include:


* Every version of the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Megatron]] mold released from 2020 onwards that uses gray or silvery unpaintable plastic
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* Every version of the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Megatron]] mold released<br>from [[2020]] onwards that uses gray or silvery unpaintable plastic
* ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' Warrior Class [[Hammerbyte#Cyberverse|Hammerbyte]]
* ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' Warrior Class [[Hammerbyte#Cyberverse|Hammerbyte]]
* ''Cyberverse'' Deluxe Class [[Arcee (Cyberverse)#Cyberverse|Arcee]]
* ''Cyberverse'' Deluxe Class [[Arcee (Cyberverse)#Cyberverse|Arcee]]
* ''[[Robot Enhanced Design]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|G1 Megatron]]
* ''[[Transformers R.E.D.|R.E.D. [Robot Enhanced Design]]]'' [[Megatron_(G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Megatron (G1)]]
* ''[[Collaborative]]'' [[Maverick (Collaborative)#Toys|Maverick]]
* ''[[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]'' [[Maverick (Collaborative)#Toys|Maverick]]
* ''[[War_for_Cybertron_Trilogy_(toyline)#Transformers:_War_for_Cybertron_Trilogy_.282020-2022.29|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#2020Netflix|Soundwave]]
* ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)#Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (2020-2022)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#2020Netflix|Soundwave]]
* ''[[Generations_Selects_(toyline)|Generations Selects]]'' [[Sandstorm_(G2)#Generations_Selects|G2 Sandstorm]]
* ''[[Generations Selects (toyline)|Generations Selects]]'' [[Sandstorm (G2)#Generations Selects|Decepticon Sandstorm]]
* ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Studio Series|'86 Autobot Jazz]]
* ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Studio Series|'86 Autobot Jazz]]
* ''[[Kingdom]]'' [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Cyclonus]]
* ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom]]'' [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Cyclonus]]
* ''Kingdom'' [[Dinobot (BW)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Dinobot]]
* ''War for Cybertron: Kingdom'' [[Dinobot (BW)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Dinobot]]
* ''Kingdom'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Grimlock]]
* ''War for Cybertron: Kingdom'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Grimlock]]
* ''Generations Selects'' [[Ramjet_(G1)/toys#Generations_Selects|G2 Ramjet]]
* ''Generations Selects'' [[Ramjet (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Ramjet (G2)]]
* ''Generations Selects'' [[Artfire#Generations Selects|Artfire]]
* ''Generations Selects'' [[Artfire#Generations Selects|Artfire]]
* ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)#Shattered Glass Collection|Shattered Glass Collection]]'' [[Starscream (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Starscream]]
* ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)#Shattered Glass Collection|Shattered Glass Collection]]'' [[Starscream (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Starscream]]
* ''Kingdom'' [[Tigatron#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Tigatron]]
* ''War for Cybertron: Kingdom'' [[Tigatron#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Tigatron]]
* ''Kingdom Golden Disk Collection'' [[Tigatron#GDC|Mutant Tigatron]]
* ''War for Cybertron: Kingdom'' [[Tigatron#GDC|Mutant Tigatron]]
* ''Studio Series'' [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#SS82|''Bumblebee'' Ratchet]]
* ''Studio Series'' [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#SS82|Autobot Ratchet (''Bumblebee'')]]
* ''Studio Series'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Studio Series|'86 Coronation Starscream]]
* ''Studio Series'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Studio Series|'86 Coronation Starscream]]
* ''Premium Finish'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Premium Finish|''WFC'' Starscream]]
* ''[[Transformers Premium Finish|Premium Finish]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Premium Finish|Starscream (''War for Cybertron Trilogy'')]]
* ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' [[Motormaster (G1)#Legacy|Motormaster]]
* ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' [[Motormaster (G1)#Legacy|Decepticon Motormaster]]
* ''Generation Selects'' [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Cyclonus]]
* ''Generation Selects'' [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Cyclonus]]
* ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]'' [[Dinobot (BW)/toys#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Heroic Maximal Dinobot]]
* ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]'' [[Dinobot (BW)/toys#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Heroic Maximal Dinobot]]
* ''Legacy'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Legacy|Soundwave]]
* ''Legacy'' Voyager Class [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Legacy|Soundwave]]
* ''Shattered Glass Collection'' [[Soundwave (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Soundwave]]
* ''Shattered Glass Collection'' [[Soundwave (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Soundwave]]
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This list is not definitive; discoloration of varying degrees—from small spots to fully discolored parts—has been seen various other figures since 2020, just less consistently. It should also be noted that sometimes, unpaintable plastic is simply a few shades different from similarly colored plastics and is not always an immediate sign of yellowing.
This list is not definitive; discoloration of varying degrees—from small spots to fully discolored parts—has been seen on various other figures since 2020, just less consistently. It should also be noted that sometimes, unpaintable plastic is simply a few shades different from similarly colored plastics and is not always an immediate sign of yellowing.


==Notes==
==Notes==

Revision as of 07:36, 5 February 2023

Due to Prowl's mold layout, changing the outer shell of the car while leaving the limbs white for Sideswipe left a white part on the roof that had to be covered by a sticker. All of Sideswipe's white plastic (and the corresponding parts on other versions of the mold) cannot hold paint.

Just what its name implies, unpaintable plastic is plastic to which the type of paint Hasbro and TakaraTomy use will not properly adhere, due to the chemical compositions of said plastic. This plastic is sometimes used on Transformers toys for structural reasons, due to its durability, flexibility, or resilience.

The two most common plastics that are unpaintable and often used in Transformers are Polyoxymethylene (POM) and Polyamide (PA). The vast majority of Transformers toys have at least one mold that is unpaintable.


Examples

Photodegradation

Main article: Photodegradation

While it is nothing new, photodegradation has become much more common and rapid in products released in the War for Cybertron: Earthrise toyline and thereafter. Several figures' unpaintable plastic has become increasingly susceptible to decay and discoloration even while still inside the packaging or mere days after being opened. These figures are also known to "yellow" even when they aren't exposed to direct sunlight—even when inside windowless boxes!—and have been observed to have an accelerated reaction in humid climates.

The precise cause is still unclear. A common theory among the fandom is that a fire retardant within the nylon chemical buildup is the cause of this and reacts to heat and/or humidity, causing the plastic to yellow. There was even one case in TFWiki.net's own community Discord server where the fire retardant chemical seeped out of a seam in an individual's War for Cybertron Trilogy Soundwave's knee! Gross. Other proposed explanations blame the COVID-19 pandemic: rapid changes in factory staff and cleaning methods, reduced feasibility of Hasbro site-checks, longer time spent on slowed-down Pacific cargo ships, or some mix of the above.

Well documented victims include:

This list is not definitive; discoloration of varying degrees—from small spots to fully discolored parts—has been seen on various other figures since 2020, just less consistently. It should also be noted that sometimes, unpaintable plastic is simply a few shades different from similarly colored plastics and is not always an immediate sign of yellowing.

Notes

  • Yes, you can probably get commercially available hobbyist paints to stick to this plastic. You are not a multi-million dollar toy corporation and you are beholden to different budget constraints, not to mention your alterations do not have to hold up to the same testing and durability standards their mass-retail toys do. This fundamental disconnect is pretty much the entire driving force behind customizing.