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This might be just me, but has anyone else been experiencing trouble loading pages lately? I'd ignore it completely as the price of having an old laptop, but I have this problem here more frequently than any other site. Is anyone else having such a problem? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:42, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
This might be just me, but has anyone else been experiencing trouble loading pages lately? I'd ignore it completely as the price of having an old laptop, but I have this problem here more frequently than any other site. Is anyone else having such a problem? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:42, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:Bookworm allegedly "moved us to a new server" on March 18m knocking the site offline for several hours and apparently fucking with the site's DNS entries.  (Why you'd need to fuck with the TFwiki DNS entries to swap servers in-house...?)
:Bookworm <strike>allegedly</strike> attempted to move us to a new server on March 18 knocking the site offline for several hours and apparently mucking around with the site's DNS entries.  (Why you'd need to fuck with the TFwiki DNS entries to swap servers in-house...?)
#They are lying.  We're still on the same server.  All the BLC sites still go down at the same time.
#<strike>They are lying.</strike>The move failed.  (I neither know nor particularly care why.) We're still on the same server.  The BLC sites we share space with still go down at the same time.
#We have no idea what they actually ''did'' when they claimed to be "switching TFWiki to another server."
#<strike>We have no idea what when in when they <strike>claimed</strike> attempted to "switch TFWiki to another server."</strike>  <small>I dunno, I think this is still accurate... specially since it seems to correlate witht he next item.</small>
#That server has been having epileptic fits ever since ''whatever'' they did with [http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/38572.html brownouts, blackouts, timeouts and lockouts] occurring off-and-on at ''all hours'' of the day.  This doesn't affect just us; it also affect all the webcomic guys hosted on our server-- thus [http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20090327.html the punchline of the latest Shortpacked!]
#That server has been having epileptic fits ever since ''whatever'' they did with [http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/38572.html brownouts, blackouts, timeouts and lockouts] occurring off-and-on at ''all hours'' of the day.  This doesn't affect just us; it also affect all the webcomic guys hosted on our server-- thus [http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20090327.html the punchline of the latest Shortpacked!]
#The site is still going completely offline for a half-hour every night for the "backup" which apparently doesn't work.
#The site is still going completely offline for a half-hour every night for the "backup" which apparently doesn't work.
#David's being either preoccupied or secretive (or possibly just sullen given the strip) which leaves me in the dark on whether anything new has happened with Bookworm the last 5 days-- but I suspect the answer is "no."
#David's being either preoccupied <strike>or secretive (or possibly just sullen given the strip)</strike> which leaves me in the dark on whether anything new has happened with Bookworm the last 5 days-- but I suspect the answer is "no."
#A new home for the site is being discussed.  The current (very tentative) plan-under-consideration involves a "Safeguard" two-server setup where one server hosts the wiki and a second ''synced'' server acts as backup, with server-bogging tasks like weekly database backups and downloads handled on the second server so that the "live" wiki never skips a beat.  '''Note:''' ''It's not my plan, I know ''nothing'' of the technical issues involved, don't ask me questions about it, and nothing has been <u>decided</u> yet, it's just what people-who-are-not-me are looking at.''
#A new home for the site is being discussed.  The current (very tentative) plan-under-consideration involves a "Safeguard" two-server setup where one server hosts the wiki and a second ''synced'' server acts as backup, with server-bogging tasks like weekly database backups and downloads handled on the second server so that the "live" wiki never skips a beat.  '''Note:''' ''It's not my plan, I know ''nothing'' of the technical issues involved, don't ask me questions about it, and nothing has been <u>decided</u> yet, it's just what people-who-are-not-me are looking at.''
#Scout just fixed some post-caching processing code the wiki's been running since we moved in (a early hack we never got around to setting right) that should ''slightly'' improve TFWiki's responsiveness.  But this isn't related to the downtime.  That's on the ''Houston'' end of the problem.
#Scout just fixed some post-caching processing code the wiki's been running since we moved in (a early hack we never got around to setting right) that should ''slightly'' improve TFWiki's responsiveness.  But this isn't related to the downtime.  That's on the ''Houston'' end of the problem.
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{{note|Yes, Derik is '''aware''' that the jawbone which everyone thought was useless was eventually given a purpose by Sampson.  Shut up Walky, allow Derik his bombastitude.}}
{{note|Yes, Derik is '''aware''' that the jawbone which everyone thought was useless was eventually given a purpose by Sampson.  Shut up Walky, allow Derik his bombastitude.}}
:{{note|SoM would like to point out to Derik that the biblical guy was "Samson", not "Sampson" :p}}
:{{note|SoM would like to point out to Derik that the biblical guy was "Samson", not "Sampson" :p}}
::{{note|Derik would like to call you a bad word now.  '''Samaritan.''' }}
:Derik, I just want to thank you for sharing all of that.  As I said [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=56439&view=findpost&p=1162718 over on that Allspark thread,] the view from the trenches can be exceedingly foggy.  I'm sure that's in part due to you and Walky and Suki not actually knowing what's going on EITHER, or being too swamped to communicate when you DO... but still, it's really good to get updates whenever possible.  I suggested maybe a setting up a Twitter feed or something.  ''Anything,'' really, so that the rank-and-file can get a better understanding of how the wiki is actually being run. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:11, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:Derik, I just want to thank you for sharing all of that.  As I said [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=56439&view=findpost&p=1162718 over on that Allspark thread,] the view from the trenches can be exceedingly foggy.  I'm sure that's in part due to you and Walky and Suki not actually knowing what's going on EITHER, or being too swamped to communicate when you DO... but still, it's really good to get updates whenever possible.  I suggested maybe a setting up a Twitter feed or something.  ''Anything,'' really, so that the rank-and-file can get a better understanding of how the wiki is actually being run. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:11, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:::I'm not terribly "in the loop" either.  I don't run in the same social circles as these guys, so anything I know comes from poking the guys making these decisions for information (or the lack thereof) in-between fiddling with Deceptitran.  <small>(First sweep 93% complete.  It shoulda been days ago-- but all the brownouts tend to stop the program)</small> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
::What?  Bookworm is NOT lying about moving us to another server.  He told me immediately after FAILING to get this wiki to WORK on a different server, that he'd put it BACK.  We've known that since.  I guess we didn't tell YOU that, but... Jesus Christ, dude.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
::What?  Bookworm is NOT lying about moving us to another server.  He told me immediately after FAILING to get this wiki to WORK on a different server, that he'd put it BACK.  We've known that since.  I guess we didn't tell YOU that, but... Jesus Christ, dude.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:::Or Scout apparently, since she was equally in the dark when we discussed the server-change shutdown on the 19th.
::(Furthermore, the current Shortpacked! punchline has nothing to do with the current situation.  I thought it'd be funny if the strip itself "failed" after Ethan was proved wrong by the guy he makes fun of all of the time.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Man, most of BLC isn't even on the same damn server as us.  It's just me and the BLC forums.  There hasn't been a damn peep from the rest of BLC.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:18, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
::(Furthermore, the current Shortpacked! punchline has nothing to do with the current situation.  I thought it'd be funny if the strip itself "failed" after Ethan was proved wrong by the guy he makes fun of all of the time.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Man, most of BLC isn't even on the same damn server as us.  It's just me and the BLC forums.  There hasn't been a damn peep from the rest of BLC.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:18, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:::Well bravo on the unintended synchronicity!  The server's epileptic episodes tied-in with your punchline hilariously well!  You should totally '''thank''' Bookworm for our downtime, because it's enhanced the realism of the ''Sortpacked!'' experience. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

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Man, we all had so much hope for New Caprica.

Page load issues

This might be just me, but has anyone else been experiencing trouble loading pages lately? I'd ignore it completely as the price of having an old laptop, but I have this problem here more frequently than any other site. Is anyone else having such a problem? -- SFH 17:42, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Bookworm allegedly attempted to move us to a new server on March 18 knocking the site offline for several hours and apparently mucking around with the site's DNS entries. (Why you'd need to fuck with the TFwiki DNS entries to swap servers in-house...?)
  1. They are lying.The move failed. (I neither know nor particularly care why.) We're still on the same server. The BLC sites we share space with still go down at the same time.
  2. We have no idea what when in when they claimed attempted to "switch TFWiki to another server." I dunno, I think this is still accurate... specially since it seems to correlate witht he next item.
  3. That server has been having epileptic fits ever since whatever they did with brownouts, blackouts, timeouts and lockouts occurring off-and-on at all hours of the day. This doesn't affect just us; it also affect all the webcomic guys hosted on our server-- thus the punchline of the latest Shortpacked!
  4. The site is still going completely offline for a half-hour every night for the "backup" which apparently doesn't work.
  5. David's being either preoccupied or secretive (or possibly just sullen given the strip) which leaves me in the dark on whether anything new has happened with Bookworm the last 5 days-- but I suspect the answer is "no."
  6. A new home for the site is being discussed. The current (very tentative) plan-under-consideration involves a "Safeguard" two-server setup where one server hosts the wiki and a second synced server acts as backup, with server-bogging tasks like weekly database backups and downloads handled on the second server so that the "live" wiki never skips a beat. Note: It's not my plan, I know nothing of the technical issues involved, don't ask me questions about it, and nothing has been decided yet, it's just what people-who-are-not-me are looking at.
  7. Scout just fixed some post-caching processing code the wiki's been running since we moved in (a early hack we never got around to setting right) that should slightly improve TFWiki's responsiveness. But this isn't related to the downtime. That's on the Houston end of the problem.

So yes- you're not imagining it. The site's experiencing intermittent downtime. It seems ot be getting worse, we don't know what's causing it, and Bookworm has been about as helpful, useful and informative as the jawbone of an ass. That's right-- biblically useless. -Derik 18:59, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

Yes, Derik is aware that the jawbone which everyone thought was useless was eventually given a purpose by Sampson. Shut up Walky, allow Derik his bombastitude.
SoM would like to point out to Derik that the biblical guy was "Samson", not "Sampson" :p
Derik would like to call you a bad word now. Samaritan.
Derik, I just want to thank you for sharing all of that. As I said over on that Allspark thread, the view from the trenches can be exceedingly foggy. I'm sure that's in part due to you and Walky and Suki not actually knowing what's going on EITHER, or being too swamped to communicate when you DO... but still, it's really good to get updates whenever possible. I suggested maybe a setting up a Twitter feed or something. Anything, really, so that the rank-and-file can get a better understanding of how the wiki is actually being run. - Jackpot 19:11, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
I'm not terribly "in the loop" either. I don't run in the same social circles as these guys, so anything I know comes from poking the guys making these decisions for information (or the lack thereof) in-between fiddling with Deceptitran. (First sweep 93% complete. It shoulda been days ago-- but all the brownouts tend to stop the program) -Derik 22:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
What? Bookworm is NOT lying about moving us to another server. He told me immediately after FAILING to get this wiki to WORK on a different server, that he'd put it BACK. We've known that since. I guess we didn't tell YOU that, but... Jesus Christ, dude. --ItsWalky 19:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
Or Scout apparently, since she was equally in the dark when we discussed the server-change shutdown on the 19th.
(Furthermore, the current Shortpacked! punchline has nothing to do with the current situation. I thought it'd be funny if the strip itself "failed" after Ethan was proved wrong by the guy he makes fun of all of the time. Nothing more, nothing less. Man, most of BLC isn't even on the same damn server as us. It's just me and the BLC forums. There hasn't been a damn peep from the rest of BLC.) --ItsWalky 19:18, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
Well bravo on the unintended synchronicity! The server's epileptic episodes tied-in with your punchline hilariously well! You should totally thank Bookworm for our downtime, because it's enhanced the realism of the Sortpacked! experience. -Derik 22:15, 27 March 2009 (EDT)