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*[[Galvatron II|Galvatron]] (21)
*[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (21)
*[[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]] (25)
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==Quotes==
"It begins with screams.  Thick.  The air is thick with them.  A symphony of pain and death.  I am drowning in an ocean of corpses.  Running.  Fleeing from something unspeakably ancient and evil.  Only to find...  ...that it is right in front of me!  One touch, one moment of terrible emptiness and I crumble to dust!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''', has some very morbid dreams.
"Look at 'em, you wouldn't think we'd just risked life and limb to save their scrawny necks!"
"You're surprised?!  If I were them, I think I'd be a little wary of you, Blades.  I noticed a certain... zeal in the way you went about your work!"
"Is that so?  Well, for your information, Mister Holier-Than-Thou, the creep you thought was surrendering was about to nail your worthless hide to the wall!  And you know what, Hound?  I should have let him do it... because you're a liability to yourself and to us!  You're soft, weak! And I won't"
"Enough!  There are too many of the enemy to waste time fighting among ourselves!  Just remember that we the good guys!  Remember we the Autobots!"
:—'''Blades''' and '''Hound''', having some mild disagreements over each other's ethics before being interrupted by '''Grimlock'''.


==Notes==
==Notes==
* In the first draft of the fold-out cover's battle scene, G1 [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] was used rather than the G2 tank model.
* In the first draft of the fold-out cover's battle scene, Generation 1 [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] was used rather than the ''Generation 2'' tank model.
* Seen in flashbacks: [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], Megatron [in his original body], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], [[Unicron]], [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]].
* Grimlock and others revived with [[Nucleon]] can transform again, with no explanation. Since "[[Another Time & Place]]" doesn't fit into this continuity, we are to assume they found some other way of canceling Nucleon's effects. A later letters page briefly explained that upon retaking Cybertron the Autobots had found a proper energy source, restoring their transformation.
* Grimlock and others revived with [[Nucleon]] can transform again, with no explanation. Since "[[Another Time & Place]]" doesn't fit into this continuity, we are to assume they found some other way of canceling Nucleon's effects. A later letters page briefly explained that upon retaking Cybertron the Autobots had found a proper energy source, restoring their transformation.
* The [[Last Autobot]] was activated at the end of the Generation 1 comic to watch over the [[Transformer|children of Primus]]. He appears to be no longer around.
* The [[Last Autobot]] was activated at the end of the Generation 1 comic to watch over the [[Transformer|children of Primus]]. He appears to be no longer around.
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* Optimus Prime is depicted on the cover as having bullet casings lodged in his head, despite the fact that bullets are not fired in their entirety from the barrel of a weapon.
* Optimus Prime is depicted on the cover as having bullet casings lodged in his head, despite the fact that bullets are not fired in their entirety from the barrel of a weapon.
* Optimus Prime mentions [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] among the threats the Autobots have overcome. In the U.S. continuity, most of the people who actually encountered [[Galvatron II|one Galvatron]] ended up dead, and the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|few]] that survived didn't learn his name. So how does Prime know it? (In the UK continuity, Optimus encountered Galvatron (or Galvatrons) on several occasions, but whether ''this'' issue has a place in UK continuity is debatable.)
* Optimus Prime mentions [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] among the threats the Autobots have overcome. In the U.S. continuity, most of the people who actually encountered [[Galvatron II|one Galvatron]] ended up dead, and the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|few]] that survived didn't learn his name. So how does Prime know it? (In the UK continuity, Optimus encountered Galvatron (or Galvatrons) on several occasions, but whether ''this'' issue has a place in UK continuity is debatable.)
* [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] is strangely absent from the list of old ghosts laid to rest despite also being one of the Autobots' most significant threats.
* And does [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] deserve a place in that list? He died an ally of Optimus Prime's in the battle against [[Unicron]], unless Optimus Prime was lying to Scorponok about him being an 'old friend'.


===References===
===References===
* The cover tagline "This is not your father's Autobot!" is a play on the then-current advertising slogan for Oldsmobile cars.
* The cover tagline "This is not your father's Autobot!" is a play on the then-current advertising slogan for Oldsmobile cars.
* On page 16, Optimus Prime reflects on threats faced in the original Marvel comic series. Optimus later refers to Bludgeon's claim to be taking the Decepticons into voluntary exile from [[End of the Road! (US)|the final G1 issue]].  
* On page 16, Optimus Prime reflects on threats faced in the original Marvel comic series. Optimus later refers to Bludgeon's claim to be taking the Decepticons into voluntary exile from [[End of the Road! (US)|the final Generation 1 issue]].  
* Pages 25–26 tie in to the [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] comics tie-in from issues #138–142.   
* Pages 25–26 tie in to the [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] comics tie-in from issues #138–142.   
* Page 28 shows [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]] in a flashback, describing him as a "small-minded tyrant."  
* Page 28 shows [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]] in a flashback, describing him as a "small-minded tyrant".   
* Page 31 depicts a flashback of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] attacking [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], presumably from issue #37 of the U.S. series.
* Page 31 depicts a flashback of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] attacking [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], presumably from issue #37 of the U.S. series.


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The name or term "War Without End" refers to more than one character or idea. For a list of other meanings, see War Without End (disambiguation).
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"War Without End!"
Publisher Marvel Comics
First published September 1993
Cover date November 1993
Script Simon Furman
Art Derek Yaniger
Colors Sarra Mossoff
Lettering Richard Starkings with Gaushell
Editor Rob Tokar
Continuity Marvel Comics continuity

They're baaaaaack...

Synopsis

A group of Autobots led by Grimlock destroys a group of Decepticons in the deepest reaches of space. They have unearthed a different kind of Cybertronians intent on colonizing all the worlds within their grasp. Jhiaxus, the leader of this group of Decepticons, has decided to take matters into his own hands, and captures Grimlock's group in order to demonstrate to them the futility of fighting against his forces. Discouraged by the apparent limitlessness of the threat they now face, the Autobots nonetheless decide to fight back. But, as terrible as this new threat is, Optimus Prime is having visions of something even worse on the horizon...



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Notes

  • In the first draft of the fold-out cover's battle scene, Generation 1 Megatron was used rather than the Generation 2 tank model.
  • Grimlock and others revived with Nucleon can transform again, with no explanation. Since "Another Time & Place" doesn't fit into this continuity, we are to assume they found some other way of canceling Nucleon's effects. A later letters page briefly explained that upon retaking Cybertron the Autobots had found a proper energy source, restoring their transformation.
  • The Last Autobot was activated at the end of the Generation 1 comic to watch over the children of Primus. He appears to be no longer around.

Errors

  • Optimus Prime is depicted on the cover as having bullet casings lodged in his head, despite the fact that bullets are not fired in their entirety from the barrel of a weapon.
  • Optimus Prime mentions Galvatron among the threats the Autobots have overcome. In the U.S. continuity, most of the people who actually encountered one Galvatron ended up dead, and the few that survived didn't learn his name. So how does Prime know it? (In the UK continuity, Optimus encountered Galvatron (or Galvatrons) on several occasions, but whether this issue has a place in UK continuity is debatable.)

References

  • The cover tagline "This is not your father's Autobot!" is a play on the then-current advertising slogan for Oldsmobile cars.
  • On page 16, Optimus Prime reflects on threats faced in the original Marvel comic series. Optimus later refers to Bludgeon's claim to be taking the Decepticons into voluntary exile from the final Generation 1 issue.
  • Pages 25–26 tie in to the G.I. Joe comics tie-in from issues #138–142.
  • Page 28 shows Straxus in a flashback, describing him as a "small-minded tyrant".
  • Page 31 depicts a flashback of Ratbat attacking Buster Witwicky, presumably from issue #37 of the U.S. series.

Covers (2)

  • Cover A: Optimus Prime with bullets in his head by Derek Yaniger
  • RI cover: foil version of cover A

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