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==Quotes==
==Quotes==
"You're under arrest, '''Sandstorm.''' You're '''guilty''' of murdering '''fourteen Cybertronians''', and attempting to kill '''seven more.'''"<br>
"Seven. '''Really,''' Prime? You really '''care enough''' to count the '''Firecons'''? If '''their''' lives mean so much to you... <big>'''MAYBE YOU ALL DESERVE THE SAME!'''"</big>
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Sandstorm'''
"This is where my future began, built on '''past crimes'''—the kind Cybertron can never escape".<br>
"Don't '''give up''', Optimus. You saved the '''Dinobots"—"<br>
"After I said they should '''die.'''"<br>
"You needed to '''lie big''' to draw Sandstorm out."<br>
"You don't know me very well. I '''never''' lie. At least Sandstorm saw Cybertron '''united''', even if it was united in '''atrocity.''' Slug's refusal to '''change''' is the '''greater threat''' to our future."<br>
"Then '''why''' come here? What did you hope to '''find'''?"<br>
"The memory of '''believing in tomorrow,''' Windblade. No matter what I '''feel'''... Cybertron '''needs''' me to hold on to '''that.'''
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Windblade'''


==Notes==
==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
===Continuity notes===
*In [[Zero Point]], notably Sandstorm was the only one among the Wreckers that didn't try to get [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] to testify for them and absolve them of being acquited over the atrocities committed at Pova. Foreshadowing, people!
*When Sandstorm talks about the things he saw as a Wrecker, he mentions "killing unarmed prisoners"—a clear allusion to the deaths of [[Squadron X]] by [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]]'s hand, as seen in [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' #5]]. Previously, the prose story "[[Zero Point]]" had depicted Sandstorm as the only Wrecker who ''didn't'' try to get [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] to absolve the team of any role in the killings, suggesting that unlike his teammates he did not approve. Foreshadowing!
*In the panel where Sandstorm recalls this, he's correctly drawn to the specifications of his ''Last Stand'' design, looking very different to his appearances in the rest of this mini-series.
*Heavy Barrel and team's crime was the siphoning of "pseudo-[[energon]]" from a mechanoid world; it's not really been elaborated upon, but that seems to be a not-really-the-real-thing variant of energon that occurs on other planets, which we saw before in [[The Hunting Party (IDW)|''Spotlight: Thundercracker'']].
*The Matrix half was given to [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] by Prime back in ''[[Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime]]'' (the other half was given to [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] and wound up being destroyed in [[Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|''More than Meets the Eye'' #21]]. Prime reclaimed 'Bee's half in [[Earthfall Part 2: Detonation Boulevard|''Robots in Disguise'' #29]].
*Prime visits the [[Undergrid]] where he found the Matrix, as chronicled in [[Transformation (issue)|''Autocracy'' #9]].


===Transformers references===
===Transformers references===
*This issue is named after the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episode, "[[Forever Is a Long Time Coming (episode)|Forever Is a Long Time Coming]]".


===Real-world references===
===Covers (2)===
 
*'''Digital cover:''' Optimus Prime's decapitated statue, from the issue's first page, by [[Livio Ramondelli]]
===Errors===
*'''Print cover:''' Optimus Prime and the Dinobots, by Ramondelli
 
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[[Category:Punishment issues]]
[[Category:Punishment issues]]

Revision as of 22:50, 5 February 2015

This article is about the IDW issue. For the Generation 1 episode, see Forever Is a Long Time Coming (episode).
The Transformers: Punishment #5
"Forever Is a Long Time Coming"
Publisher IDW Publishing
First published June 2014
Cover date 2014
Story by John Barber
Art by Livio Ramondelli
Letters by Tom B. Long
Continuity IDW continuity
Chronology Current era (2014)
Price Free (Windows 8 Madefire app, initial)
??? (Other digital platforms)

Optimus Prime has finally fingered the culprit...

Synopsis

Slug, still fuming after his confrontation with Optimus Prime, takes the Dinobots to the Optimus Prime statue, which he summarily decapitates. Slug threatens to kill Optimus and drags the other Dinobots into following him, just as an explosion goes off and sends the four flying. In reality, exposing the Dinobots' old war crimes was a feint by Optimus; the unknowing Dinobots fall through a trap door with Barricade's help and are caught in mid-air by Windblade and Starscream.

All of this was to draw out the killer—Sandstorm, who Optimus confronts. Gone off the deep end, Sandstorm shoots Prime with an infernus bullet, only to show regret afterwards. Optimus rips the bullet out of his body and places Sandstorm under arrest. Sandstorm tells his side: he had seen too much, too terrible, to allow others to go unpunished for their crimes during the war. All of the Cybertronians he had killed or attempted to kill had all committed unspeakable acts and had to be killed in the name of justice; he only pretended to befriend those in Gutcruncher's bar to make it easier to kill them all. After asking whether Optimus knew of the Autobot atrocities and how he could manage knowing them, Sandstorm tries to flee, but Optimus simply knocks him out and answers that he tries to stay "grounded".

The murders solved, Optimus goes on his personal errand: bringing the remaining half of the Matrix of Leadership to the site where he received it all those years ago. It is the anniversary of when he became Prime. Optimus shares with Windblade that he was honest about his calling out of the Dinobots, believing that bots like them who refuse to change are the greatest threat to the future; but still, he has faith that the future can be a peaceful one.

(Numbers indicate order of appearance.)

Autobots Decepticons Others

Quotes

"You're under arrest, Sandstorm. You're guilty of murdering fourteen Cybertronians, and attempting to kill seven more."
"Seven. Really, Prime? You really care enough to count the Firecons? If their lives mean so much to you... MAYBE YOU ALL DESERVE THE SAME!"

Optimus Prime and Sandstorm


"This is where my future began, built on past crimes—the kind Cybertron can never escape".
"Don't give up, Optimus. You saved the Dinobots"—"
"After I said they should die."
"You needed to lie big to draw Sandstorm out."
"You don't know me very well. I never lie. At least Sandstorm saw Cybertron united, even if it was united in atrocity. Slug's refusal to change is the greater threat to our future."
"Then why come here? What did you hope to find?"
"The memory of believing in tomorrow, Windblade. No matter what I feel... Cybertron needs me to hold on to that.

Optimus Prime and Windblade

Notes

Continuity notes

  • When Sandstorm talks about the things he saw as a Wrecker, he mentions "killing unarmed prisoners"—a clear allusion to the deaths of Squadron X by Impactor's hand, as seen in Last Stand of the Wreckers #5. Previously, the prose story "Zero Point" had depicted Sandstorm as the only Wrecker who didn't try to get Springer to absolve the team of any role in the killings, suggesting that unlike his teammates he did not approve. Foreshadowing!
  • In the panel where Sandstorm recalls this, he's correctly drawn to the specifications of his Last Stand design, looking very different to his appearances in the rest of this mini-series.
  • Heavy Barrel and team's crime was the siphoning of "pseudo-energon" from a mechanoid world; it's not really been elaborated upon, but that seems to be a not-really-the-real-thing variant of energon that occurs on other planets, which we saw before in Spotlight: Thundercracker.
  • The Matrix half was given to Bumblebee by Prime back in The Death of Optimus Prime (the other half was given to Rodimus and wound up being destroyed in More than Meets the Eye #21. Prime reclaimed 'Bee's half in Robots in Disguise #29.
  • Prime visits the Undergrid where he found the Matrix, as chronicled in Autocracy #9.

Transformers references

Covers (2)

  • Digital cover: Optimus Prime's decapitated statue, from the issue's first page, by Livio Ramondelli
  • Print cover: Optimus Prime and the Dinobots, by Ramondelli