Talk:Cy-Kill (GoBots)
Hikayat al-Amaliqa
The Challenge of the GoBots was dubbed in Arabic (notably long before any Transformers cartoon) and all the characters had distinctedly different names than their English counterparts (in contrast to Transformers, which kept their original names in Arabic, with a few exceptions). I was wondering if I should add the Arabic names to the GoBot articles? I mean, do these articles actually refer to the Challenge of the GoBot characters, or just the GoBots in the TransTech cross-universe story? -- Ziyad 19:35, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
- Since we appear to only be covering the Transformers fiction that the GoBots characters have appeared in, probably neither. --Professor Icepick 20:09, 15 August 2009 (EDT)
Personality Profile?
Ok, I want to get a feel for how deep we want to go into these characters. I know we're sticking to events and story that take place in Transformers fiction only (not sure I always 100% agree with that, but I understand why we're doing it). But what about basic personality? I mean the main "Character Profile" paragraph at the top of the page is really sparse here. If you've watched Go-bots there is certainly more that can be said to flesh out who Cy-kill is, his personality and powers, but he hasn't really demonstrated any of that personality in his VERY brief TF appearence. Is it still fair game to add it here (within reason) to give a better idea of who Cy-kill is? Or do we want to hew really very strict to the "only in TF stuff" guidline? --76.28.72.27 10:51, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
- That's being debated at the Community Portal. ---Blackout- 10:54, 19 October 2009 (EDT)
Since the idea of a separate wiki kinda took off, shouldn't the personality data be dropped in favour of something we can confirm relates to tf? User:Eire 22.00 Nov 5 09
Poor Image Locaton?
Is there a reason there's an image of Cy-kill at the bottom of the page but not the top? I realise there's no "in-universe" pic of him to use, but if we're cool putting a pic from the GoBots toon on here at all, why not put it in the spot where it would look nicer and fill a void? --76.28.72.27 09:31, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
- Trivia/Notes sections are the only place the Wiki allows unofficial imagery. --ItsWalky 09:52, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
Cartoon?
Why didn't we add info on Cy-Kill's appearances in the cartoon?71.255.164.136 01:52, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- We have already added info on all of Cy-Kill's appearances in the Transformers cartoon. --ItsWalky 02:00, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Where? I only see his appearance in the timelines comic, not the gobots or transformers cartoon.
- I refer you to what I just said. This is a Transformers wiki, not a Gobots wiki. We do not catalog Gobots fiction, only Transformers fiction. If Cy-Kill shows up in Transformers stuff, we catalog that. And we have. --ItsWalky 15:23, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- But Gobots and Transformers were both created by Hasbro, and Gobots are related to Transformers somehow. If you watched the documentuary Triple Changer, then you'd see that Gobots inspired Transformers. So basically, more info belongs here.71.255.164.136 15:47, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Read GoBots (franchise)#Pre-GoBots and get back to me. --ItsWalky 16:23, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- They are CURRENTLY in the same company.71.255.164.136 16:28, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- No they aren't. Hasbro doesn't own all of Go-Bots. They merely bought Tonka. That doesn't mean they own all of the intellectual property involved. Rival toy company Bandai still owns the toys and Hanna-Barbara still owns the cartoon. At best, Hasbro owns some names. --ItsWalky 16:45, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Not to agree with this guy per say, but I just want to remind folks: 1) We did hold a vote of users, who at the time overwhelmingly approved that they wanted to do a separate-but-linked Go-Bots wiki as a sister thing under the TFwiki.net banner. And 2) Since that vote the Allspark Almanac officially established that the much interlinked franchise is a part of the TF Multiverse (if there was any doubt) and MORE that GoBotron is their universes body of Primus and the Go-Bots are their universes TFs. Soooo... Why keep them out? It's not like they'd even add THAT much. They've had nothing to talk about that's not here already in 20 years, and were fairly small then. I really can't think of a valid reason to ignore the retcon that they are and have always been TFs. I kinda feel they belong here. They didn't always, but now? Yes.--99.103.104.77 17:04, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- The AllSpark Almanac may claim that GoBots are fictionally linked to TFs, but that only makes that statement canonical, it doesn't make a cartoon that is not licensed fiction and does not belong to Hasbro canonical and Wiki-worthy. As for the GoBots Wiki... it was attempted, but nothing really came of it. --Detour 17:17, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- G.I. Joe and Jem are also in the Transformers multiverse. Probably also Spider-Man and Avengers. The AllSpark Almanac connects like a dozen series to the Transformers multiverse. WE ARE NOT ADDING ALL OF THOSE SERIES TO THE TRANSFORMERS WIKI. --ItsWalky 17:19, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- It linked a lot of series Hasbro has ZERO rights to as well. So um... yeah. --71.70.225.1 19:18, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- I remember being told that the GoBots wiki still had some technical details to work out before it was really ready to go live and then never heard anything more. Was it ever actually open for general editing? --Khajidha 18:22, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Derik had one set up on his own site (before it died) as a temporary measure while one got sorted out here. A GoBots wiki doesn't absolutely have to be hosted in the same place as TFWiki. If there's sufficient interest, one could be set up elsewhere. --abates 19:05, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Well, 1) the retcon did more than place GoBots in the TF multiverse. It said they ARE Transformers and Primus IS Gobotron. That's different in my opinion than a crossover with Spidey or JEM. It's an apotheosis., which makes them and all about them valid material for us retroactively imo. But hey, I'm not gonna argue with the powers that be if they disagree. 2) Yeah, the GoBot sister wiki wasn't really tried as far as I've heard. It was voted for. Approved. And there was then never any movement to make it as far as I ever saw here. Derik was cool enough to make a placeholder site, but nothing ever moved here. Not a criticism, just saying If it had started I would have, and totally still would, contribute. --76.28.76.206 19:37, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- If AllSpark Almanac claimed Pandora was another body of Primus, that wouldn't mean we'd start putting Avatar stuff in the wiki. The claim is canonical, but the fiction isn't. Simple as that. --Detour 19:42, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- I completely disagree. But I also don't care enough to argue the point. So... Meh, I guess. I'd rather the discussion moved to the voted for sister wiki. Cool idea I would have loved to have happened. --76.28.76.206 19:53, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- If AllSpark Almanac claimed Pandora was another body of Primus, that wouldn't mean we'd start putting Avatar stuff in the wiki. The claim is canonical, but the fiction isn't. Simple as that. --Detour 19:42, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Well, 1) the retcon did more than place GoBots in the TF multiverse. It said they ARE Transformers and Primus IS Gobotron. That's different in my opinion than a crossover with Spidey or JEM. It's an apotheosis., which makes them and all about them valid material for us retroactively imo. But hey, I'm not gonna argue with the powers that be if they disagree. 2) Yeah, the GoBot sister wiki wasn't really tried as far as I've heard. It was voted for. Approved. And there was then never any movement to make it as far as I ever saw here. Derik was cool enough to make a placeholder site, but nothing ever moved here. Not a criticism, just saying If it had started I would have, and totally still would, contribute. --76.28.76.206 19:37, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Derik had one set up on his own site (before it died) as a temporary measure while one got sorted out here. A GoBots wiki doesn't absolutely have to be hosted in the same place as TFWiki. If there's sufficient interest, one could be set up elsewhere. --abates 19:05, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Not to agree with this guy per say, but I just want to remind folks: 1) We did hold a vote of users, who at the time overwhelmingly approved that they wanted to do a separate-but-linked Go-Bots wiki as a sister thing under the TFwiki.net banner. And 2) Since that vote the Allspark Almanac officially established that the much interlinked franchise is a part of the TF Multiverse (if there was any doubt) and MORE that GoBotron is their universes body of Primus and the Go-Bots are their universes TFs. Soooo... Why keep them out? It's not like they'd even add THAT much. They've had nothing to talk about that's not here already in 20 years, and were fairly small then. I really can't think of a valid reason to ignore the retcon that they are and have always been TFs. I kinda feel they belong here. They didn't always, but now? Yes.--99.103.104.77 17:04, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- No they aren't. Hasbro doesn't own all of Go-Bots. They merely bought Tonka. That doesn't mean they own all of the intellectual property involved. Rival toy company Bandai still owns the toys and Hanna-Barbara still owns the cartoon. At best, Hasbro owns some names. --ItsWalky 16:45, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- They are CURRENTLY in the same company.71.255.164.136 16:28, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- Read GoBots (franchise)#Pre-GoBots and get back to me. --ItsWalky 16:23, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- But Gobots and Transformers were both created by Hasbro, and Gobots are related to Transformers somehow. If you watched the documentuary Triple Changer, then you'd see that Gobots inspired Transformers. So basically, more info belongs here.71.255.164.136 15:47, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
- I refer you to what I just said. This is a Transformers wiki, not a Gobots wiki. We do not catalog Gobots fiction, only Transformers fiction. If Cy-Kill shows up in Transformers stuff, we catalog that. And we have. --ItsWalky 15:23, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive49#Gobots_on_the_wiki..._again --Thylacine 2000 23:28, 9 October 2011 (EDT)
Note
I notice a note on this page that we will not be covering Renegade Rhetoric, as it falls outside the scope of the wiki. Yet, the mainpage includes a heading for it? This makes no sense to me. RAKninja (talk) 19:05, 26 January 2016 (EST)
