Talk:Echoes and Fragments

If ever we were given cause to kill individual GoBots pages, this disgusting masturbatory horseshit is it. If ever there was doubt that these things were being done to end-run and abuse the wiki, it's dead. Jesus fucking Christ. --M Sipher (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2016 (EST)

Finding it hard to argue with you. I mean.. geez. This is a lot of effort put into something for inconsequential stuff... Imagine if people put this much effort into... making a Go-Bots wiki. --Ascendron (talk) 02:46, 1 March 2016 (EST)

Jesus. I mean, I was in favour of this story getting its own page, but this is just... not good. I might try clearing it up and cutting it down, significantly, because oh dear. --Riptide (talk) 03:04, 1 March 2016 (EST)

I admit that if this page were to be deleted, I would probably not care. S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 03:06, 1 March 2016 (EST)

I hate to bring emotions into my decision, and I might regret just posting this but, at this point, I want to suggest going one step further and just having the Gobots links just go to the appropriate pages on Wikipedia. If a Gobots wiki is ever made, we can change them then to go to that wiki. For goodness's sake, we're a Transformers wiki. That's what I WANT to do here. And it's starting to drain me being in the middle of this. --Ascendron (talk) 03:07, 1 March 2016 (EST)

For what it's worth, Jim told me not to bother writing up this article because the wiki had instituted its no-GoBot rule. I told him he was wrong, that it was only Renegade Rhetoric that was considered out of scope, and even checked on community portal. He said the community had decided it didn't like GoBots and just respect their right to ignore the bits it doesn't like. Is that what's happening here? Is this the wiki of all the Transformers canon except the parts we don't like? Because if so there's some really creepy misogynistic bits I wouldn't mind removing/just linking to Wikipedia for. --Giggidy (talk) 03:30, 1 March 2016 (EST)

The difference is, those warts in transformers fiction is still Tranformers fiction. This is like... really stretching the definition? There's a few other character's I've considered suggesting collapsing into a single list article. Kamen Riders being one of them. --Ascendron (talk) 03:44, 1 March 2016 (EST)

(Yes, I edited a part of my previous post because it came off WAY more mean than I wanted it to). Really, alright, saying we should link them off might be going too far. In my ideal world, where everything would be perfect, the Gobots wiki would be a sister wiki of this one in every way. It would have the same layout, the same policies, and you could segway from one to the other easy as pie. But no matter how much people SAY they want to make a GoBots wiki, no one actually DOES. Surely you can understand how frustrating it is that people seem so intent to just force this wiki to bear the load of TWO franchises? --Ascendron (talk) 03:55, 1 March 2016 (EST)

I don't think that's what's going on here. Jim seemed perfectly fine with this stuff not being on the wiki. I really think he just has fun writing GoBots stories and is happy that Hasbro lets him. I guess it's my own OCD that makes me want to write up the GoBots who meet Transformers here, just like we do with Marvel heroes and G.I. Joe characters.

And as to this "stretching the definition" of a story... does it? Did you read it? I laughed out loud at several parts and found the juxtaposition of GoBots elements with the overly familiar Transformers The Movie story rather clever. Blaster getting swapped for Blaster, Leader-1's corny response to "why throw away your life so recklessly", Fracture and Deadlift as Unicron upgrades for Crasher and Deadlift. It's a good read, and virtually every scene has a traditional Transformer in it. So, to call it not a Transformers story seems unfair. --Giggidy (talk) 04:13, 1 March 2016 (EST)