Talk:Rav (BM)

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Is "canon" really appropriate here, because Transformers has never really had one, and none of the fan club stuff (regardless of which club) will ever trump the mass-released fiction. Maybe there's a better way to phrase it? (And I'm feeling a little too thick at the moment to figure out how, myself.) -TFVanguard 20:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

See Canon. --M Sipher 20:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
You should know better than that, Neale, but I'll answer for the sake of reinforcing common knowledge:
a) TF does have a canon: It's everything that Hasbro and/or Takara have ever put their stamp of approval on. This means there are a bajillion continuities that are all simultaneously canon. This has even been acknowledged in the fiction, thanks to several dimensional-crossover stories in the past few years.
b) "Rav" the blue Deployer is toy-canon. "Chro" the blue Deployer is Wreckers-canon. Since the latter actively disregarded the former, that's the direction of retcon referred to in the article. But all the facts remain on the Wiki; we don't IGNORE blue-Rav or relegate all the information to the Chro article. And it's all still canon, because it all went out with Hasbro's blessing.
- Jackpot 20:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I didn't know that that was the official policy. Since I deal with several major IPs out there, 'canon' is a very muddled mess for me, particularly when doing some fan-oriented gaming work for both Star Trek and Star Wars.
I admit, Everything is canon because nothing is canon is a unique perspective, but I suppose if Transformers must have a canon, then that's the way to go. Otherwise, we would all hate each other or something...
As for Chro, I'm not really sure that being Cryotek's pet actually warrants much more than a side-note for Rav's entry, but I know a lot of you guys are much larger fans of the Wreckers Universe than I am. If there is more to say than he's just the repaint sidekick, then go for it. -TFVanguard 21:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
His very existence as a separate character from Rav means he should have his own entry, especially since both Rav and Chro appear in the Wreckers books as such. As soon as you start trying to argue "relevance", then it's a slippery slope... one could argue quite effectively that G1 Thundercracker doesn't do enough in TF fiction to be more than an addition to G1 Starscream's page if we're talking fictional relevance... and then there's allllllllllll the toy-characters who never got fiction... all the hi-then-die named characters... --M Sipher 21:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)