Talk:Vector Oracle

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This guy MIGHT be DOTM, not Prime. --M Sipher 19:33, 24 February 2012 (EST)

I was working on the assumption that all of the Arms Microns were Prime. I don't think their paperwork has any specific franchise? —Interrobang 20:00, 24 February 2012 (EST)
We don't have paperwork yet. But the webpage explaining him makes no mention of Prime anywhere, and in fact the campaign where you get him is called "Limited Movie Micron Present Campaign!!". So... not saying change it, jsut a heads-up. --M Sipher 05:29, 25 February 2012 (EST)

G1 character?

So, in this Tornado status update, he mentions looking like 'the smelting Vector Oracle' when covered in green goo. Can we take that as establishing VO as a G1 guy, or merely that an alternate G1 VO also exists? Jalaguy (talk) 13:32, 18 June 2014 (EDT)

The latter seems a little extraneous, so I'd go with the former. --ItsWalky (talk) 17:47, 18 June 2014 (EDT)
As Vector Oracle was originally advertised as a Prime character, and AVP this year has firmly established multi-continuity family characters, should we change the heading to identify Vector Oracle as both Aligned and G1? S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk) 17:31, 19 October 2015 (EDT)

Merging

Disagree with merging. People are comparing it to a Rung situation but the different there is that, at least presumably, Roberts always intended for Rung to be Primus. Vector Oracle was just created as a random toy for the early stages of promoting the upcoming Prime toyline. Escargon (talk) 13:24, 11 April 2021 (EDT)

Also notable is that Primus isn't regarded as existing in the Wings stories until the future era of the Beast Wars. Escargon (talk) 13:29, 11 April 2021 (EDT)

I think it's fine to merge because Vector Oracle... has no fiction. We lose nothing by combining the two. The single thing we know about him that he is Primus. --ItsWalky (talk) 13:31, 11 April 2021 (EDT)

But the toy wasn't designed with that intent. It was applied post hoc. Escargon (talk) 13:35, 11 April 2021 (EDT)
That doesn't really matter to me. This wiki is full of characters organized by how they were actually used rather than original intent. --ItsWalky (talk) 13:41, 11 April 2021 (EDT)
For serious, so much of what fiction does with blank slate characters is enshrined by us. Beast Wars Sonar had no pronouns in her bio. Then 3H gave her a gender. Guess what, we default to those pronouns even though they were not the original intent. I see no difference versus our situation here: a complete nothing of a Nightstick redeco whose only point of interest is that his name is a portmanteau of Vector Sigma and the Oracle, two Primus-aligned entities, who was later confirmed by fiction to be Primus himself. Keeping them separate just feels like we're being purposefully obtuse. Again, there's no nuance we're losing by keeping them separate. --ItsWalky (talk) 13:48, 11 April 2021 (EDT)
Well, in this particular case, this article is wholly misleading for labeling him as a G1 guy because of one Facebook post, versus the fact that he was sold in the Prime toyline. Escargon (talk) 13:43, 11 April 2021 (EDT)
The first note indicates that his labeling is more complicated than that. --ItsWalky (talk) 13:50, 11 April 2021 (EDT)