Talk:Dinotron (BM)

Once again, I object to having a "Beast Machines" section under "Fiction". The only Beast Machines fiction is the cartoon (okay, there's the short story in Legends), and it has no Dinobots. Cardback no county. --M Sipher 03:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I strongly disagree. Cardbacks should definately count. It is 100% official fiction attached to the toys and characters and in many cases is unique fiction and backstory unreplicated elsewhere. ZacWilliam 03:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the cardback stuff if going to be there it should either be moved up top above the Fiction section, or at least be given its own sub-section that makes it clear the events being described are not from the cartoon. --KilMichaelMcC 04:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

The cardback BACKSTORY is good for, say, the BM Dinobots' group page (which they should get at some point). But as a part of the individual character pages, frankly, I think it has no place (among other reasons, it contains pretty much no individual character information whatsoever), and certainly not as part of the "fiction" section, which is where the cartoons and comics and storybooks and etc go. Were there a pack-in comic showing the Dinobot backstory, well, then there you go. --M Sipher 05:03, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

BM Dinobots already have a group page, have for a while. Still I maintain the info, which is neither long nor intrusive, definately belongs on the characters pages as well.

It *IS* official backstory for each character, featuring events that happened to them in the past and that anyone researching one of them via the wikki would likely want to know. If someone wanted to use, say Dinotron in particular, for something and looked him up here, they might see the empty or nonexistant BM section and assume there is no BM fiction discribing the character's origins, and they'd be missing fairly important bits of his backstory.

The wikki exists to inform and this is important character info.

As for not including it as Fiction, what's the justification for that? Is it official? Yes. Is it a TF story (albeit a short one)? Yes. That makes it Official Fiction and that's exactly what the Fiction section is for. Why should the location that Official Fiction was presented have any bearing on anything? I can see giving it it's own sub-tag like "cartoon" or "comic" to delinate it's origin but it definately belongs in the catagory.

ZacWilliam 12:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I'd also argue for its inclusion, but not as "Fiction," which I think has a specific meaning in this Wiki's context that precludes information that only appears on toy packaging.--G.B. Blackrock 15:25, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't even say "Beast Machines" on the packaging. If the story-blurb from the packaging is on the page, it ought to be under "Dinobots" or something - it's not from the BM show and it's not from the BM toyline, whether they shared cases and overall design or no. Note that I don't actually care whether the blurb is included or not. -LV 01:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't say "Beast Machines" true. But it is set very much in the heart of the BM story. The Dinobots were clerly released as BM characters so when you're organizing the entry that's where it logically fits. I still argue because of that it fits beast under BM Ficton, perhaps with a sub-heading added to deliniate it's origin. The BW Mutants are another question mark I guess. They were released as BW toys, but set by their package story and bios as part of the BM timeframe/uber-story, got their first more detailed fiction as Wreckers/Universe, and then were moved back to BW era by IDW. ZacWilliam

I disagree that the Mutants were ever set in the BM timefram before the Wreckers comic put them there. Simply because Megatron tested his mode-lock gas on them doesn't mean they had to be on Cybertron, and I never read it that way when they came out. There is no reason to think Megatron wouldn't have been testing it before they ever left Earth, and in fact it makes substantially more sense than he'd have had four random Fuzors hanging around there than back on pre-Reformat Cybertron. -LV 07:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Oracle

The Oracle link sends you to Oracle (disambiguation). Which page is the correct one? It is Vector Sigma? --Loudstone 06:09, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

Technorganic?

Ok, twice I have seen it say that Dinotron is supposedly technorganic, with one saying that all the Dinobots in the toyline are that too, but nowhere on this page does it cover where that info was established canonically. I don't even know if it covers it on the pages for any of the other Beast Machines' Dinobots. So what I am saying is this, first, where in fiction does it cover this? And secondly, since it doesn't state it on Dinotron's page, maybe it should be mentioned on it, as well as on those other Beast Machines' Dinobots' pages that it's missing on. I'm mainly talking about this part: "Despite the toys not looking like it, all of the Beast Machines Dinobots are intended to be technorganic.". Like where's that even coming from? And how do those those reading this know the validity of this thing, without it being mentioned where it came from? Beetle Bug (talk) 05:13, 1 August 2021 (EDT)