User talk:Sabrblade/sandbox

Oh hell no, we're not doing this. This is a massive, hand-wringing over-correction that, quite frankly, is making up stuff in the exact same way as the original Robotmasters thing. Escargon (talk) 08:52, 23 November 2022 (EST)

Agreed. Consigning *all* discussion of Sideways's dimension hopping to a dedicated Sideways (AVP) page is ridiculous obfuscation of something that, while it may have been the result of misinterpretation and miscommunication, has been part of the text for almost 10 years at this point — and has been for 12, if you count the deliberate hinting of Animated Sideways. --Riptide (talk) 13:48, 23 November 2022 (EST)

Gag page?

In the concept's present state I am afraid I have to agree with Escargon and Broadside. That said, this pitch did inspire me with an adjacent idea for a gimmick page leaning into Sideways's schtick that might house a couple of his more continuity-agnostic appearances more cleanly without throwing out the baby with the bathwater. See this sandbox for details. --AzimuthAcolyte (talk) 02:21, 24 November 2022 (EST)

I;m not convinced; all this stuff would already be on the Armada Sideways page but in more detail. Escargon (talk) 05:33, 24 November 2022 (EST)

We are better off with the Sideways ourobouros many years behind us. Now that Derik's falsehoods have been exposed and removed, let's just leave it be. The current article goes into impenetrably excessive detail, because the whole point of Sideways is that he never does anything important but he has these deeds described about him in a non-story retro-narrative like The Silmarillion, where attempting to accurately summarize it all in wiki format somehow winds up even longer and less engaging. I sincerely believe the only way to make a reader-friendly summary of all the layers of author-intentist retconnist handwaving would be with color-coded bulletpoints. Writing an even longer essay explanation of "X said Y but actually meant Z" is not going to make a meaningful difference, except perhaps to make it worse. --Thylacine 2000 (talk) 09:05, 24 November 2022 (EST)

For once it seems I get to be on the side of "what? No way Jose". It may be post-facto material from another author based on a fandom misinterpretation, but it's all canon innit? The way things are is fine. That said, the idea of an "(ambiguation)" article is extremely funny to me, and does bring a different kind of utility to the table in collating most of that AVP material (which is very tied up in itself, obviously). So I could probably be swayed. —The Wadapan (talk) 11:14, 24 November 2022 (EST)

For whatever it's worth, and it's probably not much since it's only memory, but there's one bit of Robotmasters ephemera that I vaguely remember about Sideways, which was a chart that I believe held a RID link, but I've not been able to turn it up. Haven't brought it up before now since again, it's only memory, but if anyone knows what I'm talking about, by all means, please share. Escargon (talk) 09:25, 24 November 2022 (EST)