Talk:Brawn (G1)

Noticed the note about the fandom's disscussion/debate of Brawn's death was just removed. I understand the impulse to do so, but at the same time I question if it might not be better left in. There are other pages motivated by and/or explaining aspects of frequent/repeated fandom debate (FIRRIB and the reverse) and the "Brawn Lives" debate/movement/annoyance IS a recurring and frequent aspect of the fandom. I feel like maybe it should get a mention. Or maybe it belongs on the Fandom page? In some sort of "repeating tropes" section. I don't know. Thoughts? 71.235.142.128 20:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I removed it because I don't care for noting every time the fandom decides to be retarded. Where's the line? Do we include "Animated Swoop was rumored to be a girl because people have no reading comprehension"? "Energon Starscream is a retool of Smokejumper"? Articles like Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers are fine; what I don't like is dedicating an entire section in a character's article to fans being in denial. —Interrobang 14:59, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Lampooning of the "Brawn Lives" meme made it into official material, so I think it's worth mentioning. --ItsWalky 15:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

It did? A mention is fine then, I suppose. But does the section honestly have to be bigger than his Marvel section and half the size of the cartoon's? —Interrobang 15:59, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

No, it doesn't have to be bigger. Because obviously his comic and cartoon sections are not fully-formed yet. If you think they should be longer right now, go ahead and work on them immediately. --Steve-o 16:27, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

G2 Universe?

Where exactly was it said that he was from the G2 Marvel universe? I can't find anything on it anywhere. Escargon (talk) 16:24, 17 July 2014 (EDT)

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking, but there is a "Generation 2" sub-heading under "Marvel Comics continuity." - Gimmick (talk) 16:34, 17 July 2014 (EDT)

She's asking about the Brawn that appeared in the Universe comics, I think. Wasn't there a page that looked into various periods in the timeline/multiverse, one of them being a panel from G2 with Brawn crawling away from Megatron or something?--Blackjack (talk) 16:38, 17 July 2014 (EDT)

Oh, yeah, I see it now. And it's she. Escargon (talk) 16:45, 17 July 2014 (EDT)

Brawn Lives?

Was it really necessary to double the size of this section? It's one thing to document "Brawn Lives" was a debate -- it's another to actually have the debate read out point-by-point in detail on the Wiki. I think the previous length was sufficient. --Xaaron (talk) 17:21, 24 March 2016 (EDT)

Merged from Talk:Brawn (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity

Brawn lives section

Is there, like, any point to this editorial twaddle? He's definitively dead and this is just a lot of humming and hawing about that fact. Saix (talk) 22:32, 7 July 2016 (EDT)

Will anybody have complaints if I just excise this section? Saix (talk) 19:22, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

Yeah, I think we're to the point where we can drop a lot of sections like that. Another one I can think of is two Unicron Trilogy Blurr's sections. Escargon (talk) 19:25, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

"Brawn Lives," like "Who is Cyclonus" is such an old piece of fandom lore that if you didn't live through it, you might not appreciate the significance of the subject. I feel like it's something worth keeping - but not at its current length. That section did not used to be so long, and wants chopping right back to relevant facts about the cartoon and movie that were actually related to the original debate, not stuff from comics or a friggin' mobile game. - Chris McFeely (talk)

I personally don't feel like "people argued about it on ATT" justifies its presence; like, the most that would warrant is a note, not an entire section wedged in the middle of fiction that just befuddles fans born after 1986. The Cyclonus question is about the ambiguity of the media (well, not really that ambiguous, but) that was addressed in subsequent fiction multiple times. Only dweebs deny Brawn died in the movie and it's never been a thing in any official material. Saix (talk) 20:15, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

listen, whippersnapper --ItsWalky (talk) 21:10, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

Tell us about the great Deathsaurus/Deszaras wars, grandpa. Saix (talk) 22:28, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

But the current version is a lot less offensive, so I'll commend you for that. Saix (talk) 20:18, 8 July 2016 (EDT)

Shot in the shoulder?

I was rewatching the TFTM shuttle massacre (in HD) on a whim, and noticed how Brawn's exit wound doesn't line up with where he got shot - in the shoulder, famously. Then I noticed that Brawn doesn't appear to have an entry wound in the shoulder. Then I noticed that he's got an entry wound - right in the chest, about the same place as Prowl's entry wound, round about where the heart would be on the human body. The entry wound's even visible in this article's screengrab from the scene. It doesn't tally well with the close-up of him getting shot, which does appear to show the beam striking his shoulder, but the chest wound correlates with the massive exit wound in his back. How about that? Tribimat (talk) 13:05, 4 December 2017 (EST)

Does anybody know if Brawn was one of the sparkeaters that was killed by Team Rodimus or the Scavengers?

If not, then he was probably cured by First Aid off-screen, or off-page since this is a comic we're talking about. just wondering what happened to him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EarthSparkGears (talk • contribs).

If he never shows up again after this, that's not a guarantee. Speculation without evidence shouldn't be included in fiction write-ups. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:26, 5 October 2025 (EDT)

I guess we found Schrodinger's Sparkeater then. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EarthSparkGears (talk • contribs).