Talk:Wheelie (G1)
I applaud the profile. --ItsWalky 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. American Girl 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --ItsWalky 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --Autobus Prime 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --M Sipher 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --Ratbat 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --Andrusi 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--DrSpengler 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--G.B. Blackrock 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Not yet to be Featured
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --ItsWalky 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --M Sipher 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --ItsWalky 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Commercial voice
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --Monzo 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
Welker did voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! Wazzpinator 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Italian names
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently Scooter in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --Monzo 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in
Continuity rhymes
"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
- It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- Ziyad 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
But seriously, folks...
...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he didn't rhyme... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A lot of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - Chris McFeely 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --DrSpengler 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
- Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be my joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike some members of this Wiki). --DrSpengler 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it isn't yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - Chris McFeely 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --Jimsorenson 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.
- Why, there's one right there! :) - Chris McFeely 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --Jimsorenson 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it isn't yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - Chris McFeely 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --ItsWalky 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- Or the testicles in ROTF. The Awesome defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--Jimsorenson 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --ItsWalky 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
- But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word awesome which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--Jimsorenson 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. Crankcase, Perceptor, Rewind, etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it does need toning down. --Jeysie 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --ItsWalky 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). Geewunling 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- I think all of the paragraphs should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --M Sipher 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
- Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)
- I'll agree with that. -- Dark T Zeratul 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
- I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. Vote NO on this from me User:Eire 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)
- Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)

