Talk:Transformers Hall of Fame

Characters

Just out of curiosity, what do they mean by the "character" Optimus Prime? Or is it more of a "name" than a character to be inducted? Khajidha 10:27, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

To Hasbro, I think they are all pretty much the same character, just reimaged from time to time. Probably even Primal. - Starfield 10:41, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

That's what I figured. Khajidha 10:50, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

Jazz' bio

"Before OPTIMUS PRIME became leader of the AUTOBOTS, he was known as Orion Pax and AUTOBOT JAZZ was his closest friend." You could read that as saying Jazz is Dion. Ow. Brain hurting. --Khajidha 10:08, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

I know that was in jest, but it's still a can of worms we shouldn't open. -- SFH 11:04, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, I regretted it as soon as that anon tried to add it to the article. Besides, everyone knows Dion is Huffer. ;)--Khajidha 11:16, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

You know, I used to be kinda looking forward to this Hall of Fame thing, even if I was slightly bitter many of my favourites will never make it. Three bios in and only Grimlock's I consider marginally readable. Geewunling 11:37, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

Faction icon

We could use a faction icon for Hall of Fame members. At least the creators. It might be difficult for the characters since they are continuity nonspecific. What should the picture be? Just a star? - Starfield 10:43, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Mistake on Hasbro press release with Japanese designer names?

On the wiki, we usually use names and make articles with them in the western style (given name first, family name second). However, on Hasbro's press release they display Hideaki Yoke's name in the Japanese style (surname first, given name second), and then go on to refer to his first name as if it's his surname. Kojin Ohno's name is inconsistently displayed in the western style, but they correctly refer to Ohno as his surname (at least according to this english-language article uses "Ohno" as his surname). Did Hasbro screw up? Somebody has already listed Kojin Ohno's named in the western style, but linked it in the Japanese style. Finally, while searching for info, it seems most of the internet spells Kojin Ohno's name as "Koujin". Now I don't know what source to trust, unless Kojin Ohno and Koujin Ohno are two different people. Erm, halp, people with actual experience in Japanese. --FFN 14:12, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Just inconsistent romanization. The search results for Ōno-san's name in both kanji and hiragana bear out that the vowel is extended for both his first and last name. So with our adopted standard of using macrons to indicate extended Japanese vowels, we'd write it Kōjin Ōno. And yeah, whoever wrote the Hasbro article also goofed on Yoke-san's name.--Apcog 16:56, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Okay, I'm confused - in english, without the whole asian naming convention thing, is Kojin is surname or his given name? What about article titles? A lot of the Takara designer articles I created were straight up english interpretations of their names (mainly according to how Sydneyy spelled them in his translated Takara designer interviews on TFW2005). --FFN 19:30, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Kojin is the given name. Can you list/link to the translated interviews Sydney worked on at TFW? --Lonegamer78 21:49, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

Sorry, I had a Senior Senility Moment. I've fixed the name order in my previous response here, so as to make it easier reading later on, but for the record, I had it in Asian order and misused Ōno-san's first name as his last name. I hang my head in shame for not taking a second to transpose the names from the way they're written in the search results.--Apcog 04:52, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

Dinobot & Scott McNeil

I don't think there was any blunder on Hasbro's part. There was no speaking for any of the other characters. Peter Cullen just accepted his award as himself, the voice actor of Optimus Prime. He was nominted in name. While Scott is a good reason Dinobot won the award, he is not Dinobot. Why should Dinobot get someone to speak as the character when none of the other inductees did? --Bluestreak7 12:41, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

Exactly. It would have been bad form and something of an upstaging of Cullen, one of the actual inductees, to have McNeil go up to accept an award as a character when none of the other characters received speeches. --ItsWalky 12:43, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

What incarnations?

The Botcon tribute videos, perhaps not inaccurately for the general public and layman TFan, portray the G1, UT, Movie and Animated versions of Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee and Starscream as the same character. Should we add the HOF insignia to Optimus Prime (Armada), Optimus Prime (Movie), Optimus Prime (Animated), Megatron (Animated), Megatron (Movie), Starscream (Armada), Starscream (Movie), Starscream (Animated), Bumblebee (Movie), and Bumblebee (Animated)? Alientraveller 14:41, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

I thought we had already decided to do so. I know there was a discussion on the community portal a while back. --Khajidha 15:01, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, that these awards were being considered a blanket award to every version of the character was known as far back as the voting process. --ItsWalky 15:02, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Understood, but should we add the HOF logo to the aforementioned pages or not? --Khajidha 15:11, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

I don't see why not. Surprised they haven't been already. --ItsWalky 15:13, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

The Optimus shelf included his Shattered Glass toy. Should we put the icon on everybody's SG analogues as well? And conspicuously absent were the WFC toys (and thus Prime incarnations) of Megs, OP, and BB--so should we leave those analogues out? --Thylacine 2000 15:55, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

I can understand that since they're not part of a celebration of a 25-year old legacy. Were the RID characters included the final video of the night or in a display? Alientraveller 16:03, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

I would expect to include every Optimus Prime, Megatron, Bumblebee, and Starscream ever. That's clearly the intent. --ItsWalky 16:08, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

I wouldn't expect it to include BW Megs, but other than that everybody. --Khajidha 17:18, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

And probably not Dinobot (Transmetal), either. JW 17:20, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Why not? --ItsWalky 17:33, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

They're vastly different characters. I doubt even Hasbro considers the G1 and Beats Wars incarnations of Megatron to be the same character, since they both appeared in the same series. The 2 Dinobots could be argued to be basically the same character, I suppose, especially with Dinobot II's heroic sacrifice and all that. -- Semysane

If Hasbro flags Dinobot II as being Dinobot, I don't see why the "other" Dinobot doesn't get to come along for the ride as well, especially since Starscreams can also be pretty different. "Dinobot" is in the Hall of Fame, same as "Bumblebee," "Optimus Prime," "Megatron," and "Starscream." --ItsWalky 17:57, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

I just watched the Hall of Fame videos for Dinobot and Megatron, and the Dinobot video did, indeed, include Dinobot II. The Megatron video, however, did not include Beast Wars Megatron; it only had the G1, Movie and Animated incarnations. Take that as you will. -- Semysane 18:09, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Exactly, besides, the Beast Wars version of the inducted Megatron is this guy. Alientraveller 18:30, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Most importantly... does anybody know the name of the songs for each hall of fame video? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.34.249.124 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 5 August 2010 (EDT).

Via Devcon on the Allspark:

• Prime was "What I've done" by Linkin Park
• Bee was "The Best" (That song from Karate Kid)
• Megs was "Seek and Destroy" from Metallica
• Screamer was "Danger Zone" (from Top Gun)
• Jazz was "Holding out for a Hero"
• Soundwave was "I love Rock n' Roll" by Joan Jett
• Shockwave was "Final Countdown" by Europe
• Grimlock was the Godzilla Theme
• and Dinobot (nomination version) was "Welcome to the Jungle" by GNR.

The versions on the website use canned music replacements, obviously. --ItsWalky 20:14, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Dinobot's replacement is The Touch, though, which is pretty damned awesome. -- Semysane 20:55, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

No. Dinobot (nomination version) was "Welcome to the Jungle." Dinobot had two videos: one that was presented along with the other four nominees, and one for when he won, which is the one that's online. --ItsWalky 22:45, 5 August 2010 (EDT)

Man, whatever. We're way off-topic anyway. -- Semysane 02:44, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

Prime characters

So, uh, what about the Prime guys? Optimus Prime² and the rest currently lack HoF icons, but personally I'm of the opinion that it's silly to think Hasbro considers them exceptions. --Andrusi 11:21, 8 February 2011 (EST)

I think that was an oversight when those articles were created. I'm sure that it's Hasbro's intention that future Optimus Primes/Megatrons/etc would be counted as Hall of Fame members. --abates 13:47, 8 February 2011 (EST)

I think it'll be fine to add them since their bios reiterate their Exodus depictions. So yeah, I'll get round to it unless someone objects or just does it. Alientraveller 19:09, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Done.--Khajidha 19:21, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Whoops. Didn't realize there was a category, too. Sorry.--Khajidha 19:26, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Fixing up?

Now that we know everything about the HOF will be a yearly thing, including the fan vote, maybe it's time to move all the inductees down to a dedicated section rather than the opening paragraph? --Detour 00:45, 4 April 2011 (EDT)

Exodus 2011

Is it me or is the word Exodus used A Lot in the 2011 profiles. Not that we needed it, but do you thiink that rates a "note" as shundting these toward being in the Aligned continuity? --76.28.76.206 12:50, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

The 2010 bios were already aligned continuity too. Alientraveller 13:10, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

Twice is "a lot"? --Khajidha 14:00, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

Erector note

Has anyone, anywhere, actually said they were voting for Erector because his name is a penis joke? --abates 20:21, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

I thought Erector in the Hall of Fame was a joke for an April fools hall of fame at TFW.--Primo 20:23, 13 April 2011 (EDT)